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Project Moon Discussion 2

I really dislike the person who think they are having fun while the other sides doesn't, you really need to realize that, as I can assure that neither Ela and DMUA having fun discussing you
Yeah, and so far none of the others sides are convinced and they already have a valid reasonings and thoughts over this issues yet you are still persistent hence we are having this chaotic debate right now
"Chaotic debate"? This debate seem to have been pretty civil so far so I don't see why you'd say things are chaotic.
 
Sorry I forgot her name considering we don't actually fight her. I still don't think Base Emile Benoit's strength is that far apart from Kira's since there is nothing to imply that the latter was at Max Conditionals when she took that blow. And if she was that would actually further support my point as her "Grudge" also gives her Defense Level Down.
There's also nothing to suggest that Emile was using her full strength when she attacked Kira. And none of this is helpful to justifying the stats you put in Kira's Profile.

You don't understand that putting Small City level in Kira's profile means you think she has something that can close a gap between her base stats and Colors. Kira being able to maybe reach the baseline of Splitters, who can then use their shtick to close the gap between themselves and Colors doesn't count.
Ok so that's one bad example then. That doesn't invalidate the other examples that I've provided
All other examples were only a 5 - 10 level gap, the T Corp Colllectors were the biggest gap.
He's only 3 levels lower than Vergillius so I don't think that's enough to just dismiss his standing.
Vergilius can still kick Vespa's ass, if his threat in Twining Threads is anything to go by.
Uh I'm not. There is nothing implying that either Kira or Emile had any of their conditionals activeso it's just base to base scaling.
First, that premise is still nonsense because Emile as a Maestro is guaranteed to be stronger than her Docent Rufo, who is explicitly stronger than Kira even if she were at full strength.

Secondly, you thought Zilu could take a Color because you think she could take on Matthias, which is utterly bull for reasons I already laid out. I am addressing that.
 
There's also nothing to suggest that Emile was using her full strength when she attacked Kira. And none of this is helpful to justifying the stats you put in Kira's Profile.
It doesn't really matter whether or not Emile was using her full strength, as we know for a fact that even an indirect hit is capable of mulching the Sinners, so using Occam's Razor the simplest explanation for why the same thing didn't happen to Kira is that the level gap between her and Emile isn't that big thus making them comparable to one another, therefore validating the downscale.
You don't understand that putting Small City level in Kira's profile means you think she has something that can close a gap between her base stats and Colors. Kira being able to maybe reach the baseline of Splitters, who can then use their shtick to close the gap between themselves and Colors doesn't count.
Can you please stop bringing up the Colors. Kira being able to hold Vespa in place is just supporting evidence. the main one is her downscaling to a Ring Maestro. Also you know for a fact that the WAW-ALEPH tier is a fairly wide spectrum of strength and that there is nothing stopping anyone from being able to downscale to those who are already in said tier.
All other examples were only a 5 - 10 level gap, the T Corp Colllectors were the biggest gap.
Yeah that's my point. Kira's with her base strength was able to withstand Emile's base strength so that in turn means that the gap between is just around 5-10 levels.
Vergilius can still kick Vespa's ass, if his threat in Twining Threads is anything to go by.
Seriously your using that joke for scaling? There is nothing implying that Vergilius wouldn't struggle in a fight against Vespa if the two were to ever come to blows with each other.
First, that premise is still nonsense because Emile as a Maestro is guaranteed to be stronger than her Docent Rufo, who is explicitly stronger than Kira even if she were at full strength.

Secondly, you thought Zilu could take a Color because you think she could take on Matthias, which is utterly bull for reasons I already laid out. I am addressing that.
So long as it's within the 5-10 level gap(which in this case it very likely is) then it can in fact be justified.
 
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