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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

Though sidetracking is not cool, it does not seem remotely enough to become report material
@Azertyhuuh could behave a tad bit different, but yeah it doe snot seem like enough to report
 
Nonynho said:
Though sidetracking is not cool, it does not seem remotely enough to become report material
@Azertyhuuh could behave a tad bit different, but yeah it doe snot seem like enough to report
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The issue comes from the fact that he has a long history of it, even after being warned (unofficially) he is still continuing it. I would like it to atleast becomes areal warning so he at least stops doing it.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
The issue comes from the fact that he has a long history of it, even after being warned (unofficially) he is still continuing it. I would like it to atleast becomes areal warning so he at least stops doing it.
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I myself normally go to post something funny on the threads, but only once, if is only once I don't think a report is needed, if he however is posting 5 to 10 messages non stop then it should be reportable

I am not gonna comment more about this, just giving my opinion once
 
Nonynho said:
Though sidetracking is not cool, it does not seem remotely enough to become report material
@Azertyhuuh could behave a tad bit different, but yeah it doe snot seem like enough to report
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Trust me, I didn’t even know it was forbidden to comment on something off-topic in the battle section. I thought character matchups were normal, and I also only get reported for very minor things that don’t even deserve a report in the first place.

Believe it or not, in every thread I open, all those people you see in front of you go off-topic, post funny images, insult me, and laugh. Since I joined, in every topic I open, people come to laugh, derail the discussion, and post those laughing images and phrases among themselves. I have never reported anyone, while I, if I make a single comment—even without knowing it’s not allowed, and it could just be deleted or I could be asked to delete it—get reported instead.

If things are like this now, I’m going to go to my own threads and start reporting everyone right now, and I won’t stop.
 
Azertyhuuh said:
Trust me, I didn’t even know it was forbidden to comment on something off-topic in the battle section. I thought character matchups were normal, and I also only get reported for very minor things that don’t even deserve a report in the first place.

Believe it or not, in every thread I open, all those people you see in front of you go off-topic, post funny images, insult me, and laugh. Since I joined, in every topic I open, people come to laugh, derail the discussion, and post those laughing images and phrases among themselves. I have never reported anyone, while I, if I make a single comment—even without knowing it’s not allowed, and it could just be deleted or I could be asked to delete it—get reported instead.

If things are like this now, I’m going to go to my own threads and start reporting everyone right now, and I won’t stop.
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Things do seem to go on this way from the little i accompany of your problems here, but what i don't see helping is the last part
I think we can see how that was an exhageration and why you thought all would find this being ok, then we can all just avoid this behaviour if we conclude it's bad to the point of even thinking about coming here

If you go to threads with people who seem to not like you (which sounds weird to me seeing some names here acting strange), then just don't go off-topic, and demand the same respect out of them in threads they come, how does that sound?
 
Can a staff intervene here? Might become too toxic soon
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Fortnite: Thor (2020) #1 is part of the canonicity (Accepted)

You talked AROUND the topic, we directly asked WHAT WOULD THIS BE USED FOR. We wanted to know what this would be used as evidence, like "Yeah, I'm using this comic to add justifcation for "Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2; Aspects Type 2, 3, 4 & 5) and Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type...
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BonjourGnome said:
Can a staff intervene here? Might become too toxic soon
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Fortnite: Thor (2020) #1 is part of the canonicity (Accepted)

You talked AROUND the topic, we directly asked WHAT WOULD THIS BE USED FOR. We wanted to know what this would be used as evidence, like "Yeah, I'm using this comic to add justifcation for "Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 2; Aspects Type 2, 3, 4 & 5) and Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type...
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It seems like Random-Helper already did.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
In this example, yes, but it is a common pattern, for example, random messages in other general threads. He will randomly go into threads and just randomly discuss ID or Yogiri. (I don't think it is even close to enough to a ban, but I am hoping for at least a warning so he doesn't constantly repeat such things.
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You said they were warned unofficially before, can you link to that?
 
Preemptively:

I'll support a warning if the unofficial one was both recent and very clear.

Otherwise, given just how incredibly minor this is, I think we can just refresh that instruction to try and stay on topic.
 
FinePoint said:
You said they were warned unofficially before, can you link to that?
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While I don't have enough time to go look for the exact warning (exams), here are some close examples: Unnecessary combat behaviour, insulting others who disagree, constant spam in a Staff thread, and rudeness. Not to mention general clogging up threads. I have ignored warnings I find completely irrelevent such as staff constantly telling him to count votes)

While these are not the exact ones you are looking for it should be enough to prove my point.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
While I don't have enough time to go look for the exact warning (exams), here are some close examples: Unnecessary combat behaviour, insulting others who disagree, constant spam in a Staff thread, and rudeness. Not to mention general clogging up threads. I have ignored warnings I find completely irrelevent such as staff constantly telling him to count votes)

While these are not the exact ones you are looking for it should be enough to prove my point.
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Alright, I definitely see your point.

That said, most of these are either irrelevant to the current issue or kind of sidestep just telling them outright that off-topic posts are against the rules. Instead the language is all suggestive, or implying it might be an issue. They plead ignorance here, and I want to give them the benefit of the doubt.

So, in that light, I think we should just instruct them now that it is technically a rule violation to make off-topic posts (even if we're very lenient depending on length and frequency) and they should avoid doing so at all if it's not at least paired with an on-topic post (like a joke at the end of an otherwise relevant post is probably fine).
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
In this example, yes, but it is a common pattern, for example, random messages in other general threads. He will randomly go into threads and just randomly discuss ID or Yogiri. (I don't think it is even close to enough to a ban, but I am hoping for at least a warning so he doesn't constantly repeat such things.
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These are general discussion threads, and my comments there were only meant as jokes. They are casual discussions, and the same applies to the Tensura thread. That comment was made jokingly because everyone was already talking about Goku at the time, as well as various other unrelated topics.

People in general discussion threads constantly talk among themselves about things unrelated to the series, joke around, mention other characters, and discuss all sorts of topics. Yet none of those comments were reported. Instead, you went and quoted a single comment of mine from a Tensura general discussion thread, even though it was clearly a joke and everyone else had already been talking about Goku before I did.

If that's the standard being applied, then I could go through every general discussion thread and report anyone who makes a comment unrelated to the series or mentions a character from another franchise. If I did that, it would essentially mean reporting almost everyone. Yet I made one joking comment, and that was singled out and used as evidence in the discussion. That was actually the first time I entered the Tensura general discussion thread and interacted with the members there.

You also went to the Shinza Banshou general discussion thread and quoted a comment where I jokingly mentioned Yogiri. Meanwhile, people in that thread regularly go off-topic and talk about Featherine and many other characters. By the same logic you're using, I could report those comments as well, since they are also unrelated to the actual topic being discussed.

You're specifically going into general discussion threads to do this. With all due respect, if this logic is applied consistently, then I could report practically every member of the community.

General discussion threads are meant for casual conversation with other members. People joke around, chat with each other, make brief references to other characters, and engage in lighthearted discussions. That's the nature of a general discussion thread. In virtually every general discussion thread, people occasionally talk about things outside the specific series being discussed, joke around, and have casual conversations. Yet you seem to be targeting me specifically in these general discussion threads.
 
I'll take the liberty of doing so, and if other staff want to make this an 'official' warning they may, but:

@Azertyhuuh
This is to let you know that off-topic posts are against the rules, and are considered derailment. You should avoid making them at all.

If you wish to tell a joke, that's fine, but it should at least be paired with with an on-topic post. For example, if you make a post arguing who you think should win the match, then add a short joke at the end about how your favorite character would beat them too, that's fine- but as its own standalone post it's simply too unrelated.

This isn't a serious violation if it's not excessive, but I wanted to make it clear to you that it is technically our policy.

General Discussion threads are indeed given much more leniency, but are not immune to this policy and also have set topics in most cases.
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
While I don't have enough time to go look for the exact warning (exams), here are some close examples: Unnecessary combat behaviour, insulting others who disagree, constant spam in a Staff thread, and rudeness. Not to mention general clogging up threads. I have ignored warnings I find completely irrelevent such as staff constantly telling him to count votes)

While these are not the exact ones you are looking for it should be enough to prove my point.
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I already received an informal warning from Reiner regarding commenting in staff threads without permission, and ever since that day I have not made a single comment in a staff thread without authorization.

At the time, I was still relatively new and genuinely unfamiliar with the rules surrounding staff threads. Once the issue was brought to my attention, I stopped doing it entirely.

That is why I find it strange that this is being brought up again now. You're referring to something that happened months ago, during a period when I was still learning the basic rules of the community. After receiving the warning, I corrected my behavior and did not repeat the mistake.

Using actions from months ago, which occurred before I fully understood the community's rules, does not seem like a fair representation of my current conduct.
 
FinePoint said:
I'll take the liberty of doing so, and if other staff want to make this an 'official' warning they may, but:

@Azertyhuuh
This is to let you know that off-topic posts are against the rules, and are considered derailment. You should avoid making them at all.

If you wish to tell a joke, that's fine, but it should at least be paired with with an on-topic post. For example, if you make a post arguing who you think should win the match, then add a short joke at the end about how your favorite character would beat them too, that's fine- but as its own standalone post it's simply too unrelated.

This isn't a serious violation if it's not excessive, but I wanted to make it clear to you that it is technically our policy.

General Discussion threads are indeed given much more leniency, but are not immune to this policy and also have set topics in most cases.
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Alright, I understand
 
Pepsimanslover said:
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some suggest that jelly-like "cosmic cube" is Metatron’s Cube from jewish mysticism https://www.gamespot.com/articles/god-of-war-laufeys-phranque-is-far-from-just-a-cube/
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I think this is pretty blatant lmao.
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There's not really a more polite way to put that without a lot of roundabout talk.

That is to say, I do not think this is a rule violation, it seems like they simply disagree with you.

@WhydoIneedtosignupintwoplaces
Regardless, you're welcome to give your side of this report.
 
FinePoint said:
There's not really a more polite way to put that without a lot of roundabout talk.

That is to say, I do not think this is a rule violation, it seems like they simply disagree with you.

@WhydoIneedtosignupintwoplaces
Regardless, you're welcome to give your side of this report.
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It's pretty blatant misogyny, after all, he choose to reply to the specific sentence of "I don't believe playing as a woman is the true issue" with him disagreeing with that claim to the extent of calling the other person naive, which I believe makes it clear he has an issue with a female protagonist for simply being well, female.

And given much of the brain dead discussion of the upcoming game has been incels going "oh no, we're playing as a woman!", I believe it's a pretty clear misogynistic comment. Now whether leaving a misogynistic is a rule violation, that idk.

Minor edit: Of course, he could have mis spoke badly here, but he'll have to clarify on that.
 
Yeah I don't think behavior like this should be allowed on our site.

That being said, he should at least be allowed to explain himself why he did what he did. If he responds in a way that we don't like, by all means, send the man to the depths of Tartarus.
 
I'm not involved in this report at all, but if I can chime in, I heavily disagree with that reading. The original comment was talking about how people were angry with the new GOW game because of other reasons and that playing as a woman isn't really the big issue as only a small minority of people were actually incensed by this.

To me, @WhydoIneedtosignupintwoplaces reply read as him calling the original poster naive that playing as a women wasn't the big issue in regards to the hate the new GOW game is getting from the internet, though this might just be me projecting as I also thought similarly (As in, I think having a female character is one of the biggest reasons why people are hating on the new GOW game, not just a small minority of people. And no, I don't think this specific reason is a valid reason at all, though the cube and writing probably is.)

Perhaps I am being too charitable, especially since the full comment wasn't quoted, but I did not see that comment as misogynistic until it was brought up as misogynistic in rvr. In fact, I actually saw it as an acknowledgement of misogyny and how big of a role it has in gaming. If I am wrong and that was meant to be a misogynistic comment though, then I'm wrong /shrug
 
FinePoint said:
There's not really a more polite way to put that without a lot of roundabout talk.

That is to say, I do not think this is a rule violation, it seems like they simply disagree with you.

@WhydoIneedtosignupintwoplaces
Regardless, you're welcome to give your side of this report.
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I was saying he was being naive for thinking people aren't complaining about playing as a woman. Anyone can see the real reason those guys are complaining by the AI videos they kept making throughout the internet. It's naive to pretend that's not where the hate is stemming from.
 
I agree with FinePoint, but at the same time, there have been critics who over glorify various films and video games that try too hard to be please modern cancel culture rather than either making a good film or making a good game being their first priorities. I can agree that audiences over hate or review bomb things over stupid reasons; especially when it comes to "Woke" vs "Anti-Woke" allegations. But it's not really a superlative everyone disliking the look of an upcoming game or film for the same reason(s).
 
WhydoIneedtosignupintwoplaces said:
I was saying he was being naive for thinking people aren't complaining about playing as a woman. Anyone can see the real reason those guys are complaining by the AI videos they kept making throughout the internet. It's naive to pretend that's not where the hate is stemming from.
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Okay, and why should we care about these people? Why give them the attention instead of just being excited for a new game?
 
Friends, this is not the place to start debating it.

I was merely pointing out that the stance was common and not illogical, therefore there was no reason to assume that's not what they meant.
They have also now confirmed that's indeed what they meant.

The argument itself can be continued in the thread, but for our purposes I don't think we need to take any action.
 
I personally think the conversation shouldn't be continued, period, and would like it to end at that. That is all.
 
KLOL506 said:
I personally think the conversation shouldn't be continued, period, and would like it to end at that. That is all.
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Well, if civilly discussing social issues related to media was forbidden, then many productive people would've been banned a long time ago.

As far as I know, we have no rules against it. It's simply not relevant to the purpose of this thread.
 
WhydoIneedtosignupintwoplaces said:
I was saying he was being naive for thinking people aren't complaining about playing as a woman. Anyone can see the real reason those guys are complaining by the AI videos they kept making throughout the internet. It's naive to pretend that's not where the hate is stemming from.
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That's how I interpreted your comment as well. I think that we can leave this "nothingburger" issue now. 🙏
 
Is this an RVR flag? This guy came out of nowhere commenting something that feels really useless and lacking depth.

This isn't even his first time either, as he literally commented this in my previous thread:
KaramcaS said:
Holy headcanon
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Which make this the second time he's shown up specifically on my Shadow Fight thread and completely throwing random gibberish. Maybe I have max sensitivity, I don't know, but I really can't see it as anything other than bad manners.
 
Jepilstiltskin said:
Is this an RVR flag? This guy came out of nowhere commenting something that feels really useless and lacking depth.

This isn't even his first time either, as he literally commented this in my previous thread:

Which make this the second time he's shown up specifically on my Shadow Fight thread and completely throwing random gibberish. Maybe I have max sensitivity, I don't know, but I really can't see it as anything other than bad manners.
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Well, the headcanon comment does technically have substance, even if a little rude.

I have no idea what a singular 'bro' would imply though.

@KaramcaS Could you try to elaborate more on your disagreements in the future, please?
 
Jepilstiltskin said:
Is this an RVR flag? This guy came out of nowhere commenting something that feels really useless and lacking depth.
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This is kind of expression, not something RVR worthy, kind of expressing disbelief or feeling funny about something, if course if he keep spamming it in order to derail the thread then that is a completely different thing. Otherwise it is a harmless comment
 
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