Kid Monkey vs Fox Girl (Goku vs Miyabi) (6-0-0)

[Pyro9278]

Son Goku (9.6 Kilotons): 6 ( @XSOULOFCINDERX @MannyQ361 @Spinoirr @LoudestProcedure @AyOgUyS @Pyro9278 )

• Goku is in character.
• Great Ape is restricted.
• Goku Post-Karin Key.

Hoshimi Miyabi (10.6 Kilotons):

• Miyabi is in character.

The fight takes place in the Mount Paozu, starting 5 meters apart. Both with direct field of vision. Equal speed and SBA from the rest.

 

[Sooshirohl]

goku has a 2.1x AP advantage here, but miyabi has a pretty substantial LS advantage. since both are in character here i don't really see either trying to kill the other, so i think both would likely just go for incaps via KO instead. i think goku would probably just be more skilled than miyabi even in this key, and he'd have the general edge in CQC. miyabi does have higher LS, but she doesn't really go for things like grapples or restraining in character, so i don't really see her utilizing it to her advantage even if she was just trying to incapacitate goku with a knockout

both have enhanced senses, both are exceptional acrobats, both are masters with their designated weapons, and both have accelerated development, though i would say goku's is definitely more useful to him here as he grows stronger in the heat of battle. goku wouldn't really be able to replicate any of tailless' abilities so i don't think his power mimicry would help him much. ki manipulation would help him fight from afar, and the solar flare i think would actually be a pretty vital asset to him. he also has both nimbus and the power pole to also fight ranged on top of giving him a lot of good mobility. he also has a general stamina advantage, so he'd likely be able to outlast miyabi in a battle of attrition (i think miyabi's stamina should honestly be higher, but that's something i'll probably have to get a CRT done for)

miyabi can boost her own stats, can inflict stuff like freeze and frostburn onto goku to debuff him, and she can still fight and act even while unconscious. if given ample time to charge up, miyabi's hollow splitting attack could definitely one shot goku, but that's :
1. assuming it even lands in the first place
2. assuming goku gives her enough time to charge it up (which i don't think he would)
3. assuming miyabi would even resort to using it to begin with (given she's in-character here, i doubt she'd go for an all out attack trying to kill a child)

funnily enough, goku's tail is also a notable weak point for him in this specific key, which i think is something miyabi could take advantage of.

not gonna cast a vote just yet because i want to see more arguments but this does seem pretty interesting. i'll probably have to mull on it a bit more but if i had to side with someone at the moment, i'd maybe say goku? i think being stronger in CQC on top of having good mobility options + superior stamina helps him a good amount

 

[Pyro9278]

both have enhanced senses, both are exceptional acrobats, both are masters with their designated weapons, and both have accelerated development, though i would say goku's is definitely more useful to him here as he grows stronger in the heat of battle. goku wouldn't really be able to replicate any of tailless' abilities so i don't think his power mimicry would help him much. ki manipulation would help him fight from afar, and the solar flare i think would actually be a pretty vital asset to him. he also has both nimbus and the power pole to also fight ranged on top of giving him a lot of good mobility. he also has a general stamina advantage, so he'd likely be able to outlast miyabi in a battle of attrition (i think miyabi's stamina should honestly be higher, but that's something i'll probably have to get a CRT done for)

In this form, Goku doesn't have Solar Flare, and he doesn't fully control his Ki enough to make such casual attacks with it, so his ranged attacks would mainly be with the Power Pole unless he charges one of the attacks and if he considers it necessary (which I doubt with the AP advantage).

 

[Sooshirohl]

In this form, Goku doesn't have Solar Flare, and he doesn't fully control his Ki enough to make such casual attacks with it, so his ranged attacks would mainly be with the Power Pole unless he charges one of the attacks and if he considers it necessary (which I doubt with the AP advantage).

that's good to know. power pole would still give him a lot of range, but i think it'd be easier for miyabi to manage compared to having to deal with it on top of ki attacks

 

[Pyro9278]

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[Sooshirohl]

just realized i never actually cast a proper vote on this

goku's AP advantage helps him here, but it's obviously not such a massive advantage to where he's gonna be one shotting miyabi. miyabi also has multiple ways of boosting her own stats to help close that gap. as i said in my other comment both have accelerated development so they can get stronger as the fight progresses, but i'd probably say goku's is a bit more reliable. goku should obviously be the more skilled fighter, but i don't think miyabi is totally outclassed to the point where it's a complete wash, and at the very least i think her own competency and experience would at least help her against goku's superior skill. goku being able to fly with nimbus should technically be an advantage, but considering miyabi can casually jump dozens of feet into the air without breaking a sweat, i actually don't think it'd be that hard for her to just catch him out of the air. power pole is a pretty useful tool for range and keepaway, but miyabi shouldn't have any trouble reacting to it and parrying it's extensions with her massive LS advantage. i also don't think miyabi needs to worry about getting tailless disarmed from her thanks to the LS gap. miyabi's freezing + frostburn would help a lot, and it'd wear goku down a lot faster as she accumulates more and more damage. she also has massive AOE and ranged attacks to help deal with goku's mobility.

i think i'm going to side with goku, and that's largely in part due to his stamina advantage. already mentioned that i think miyabi's stamina should be higher, but with what it's labelled as currently, i think goku can probably just outlast her in a prolonged battle of attrition. coupled with his resilience, that means he can take a lot more punishment even when he's being bombarded with attacks. as the fight goes on, his AD only means he'll get more and more used to miyabi's attacks, so i think he can figure out how to counter her accordingly. the AP advantage and skill advantage also help him here. i think if their stamina's were on the same level i'd actually lean miyabi, but given his current stamina advantage, i'll cast my vote for goku edging her out in an attrition war

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Goku FRA, but also don't forget that if she whips out any moves that Goku would find useful to cannibalize into his own fighting style then he will like he was doing constantly in his fight with Roshi.

 

[Pyro9278]

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[Sooshirohl]

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miyabi got buffed to 7-C so this matchup doesn't really work anymore unfortunately

 

[Pyro9278]

miyabi got buffed to 7-C so this matchup doesn't really work anymore unfortunately

Goku is in his 7-C key, I was just about to mention it in case he continued with the vote lol

 

[Lort15]

for a second i thought this is Rena Rouge VS King Monkey

 

[Sooshirohl]

Goku is in his 7-C key, I was just about to mention it in case he continued with the vote lol

oh i didn't realize he also had a 7-C key lol, that's convenient

does he get any new abilities with the new key? i think i'll still probably keep my vote for goku for the aforementioned reasons but i'm just curious if he gets anything new

 

[Pyro9278]

oh i didn't realize he also had a 7-C key lol, that's convenient

does he get any new abilities with the new key? i think i'll still probably keep my vote for goku for the aforementioned reasons but i'm just curious if he gets anything new

Well, Miyabi has a slight AP advantage and still massively surpasses Goku in LS, however I think she falls behind in terms of skill since Goku in this key has analytical prediction, afterimage and better martial skills in general.

 

[Pyro9278]

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[MannyQ361]

Voting Goku fra.

 

[Spinoirr]

Goku fra

 

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[Sooshirohl]

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[LoudestProcedure]

Goku obliterates miyabi

 

[AyOgUyS]

Goku FRA

 

[Mickey1940]

how long does Miyabi need to charge up her spacial slicing attack? and is it spammable?

 

[Sooshirohl]

how long does Miyabi need to charge up her spacial slicing attack? and is it spammable?

it is admittedly a bit tricky to tell because there's some cinematic timing in the cutscene where it happens but i don't actually think it takes that long to charge up, she just reels her arm back and swings forward and proceeds to fire off the giant slash

she was sort of emotionally amped in this state though so i'm not sure if it's something i'd consider spammable. also i think i mentioned it way back when this thread first started but i don't think miyabi would resort to using a big attack like that against a young child (goku in this case), she'd probably just go for trying to knock goku out rather than trying to actively kill him

 

[Pyro9278]

Okay, I'm going to vote for Goku. And that's grace.

 

[LaserPrecision]

I expected Goku's profile to better source claims considering it's Goku. But Goku has almost no links on his stamina/endurance feats. What's Goku's stamina feats against being cut, dismembered, or impaled? Miyabi doesn't need to go for any lethal blows, but causing him to pass out from bleeding would be sufficient. She doesn't need a spatial cut for that, her having a slight ap advantage and a sword is more than enough to make clean cuts through Goku.

 

[Pyro9278]

I expected Goku's profile to better source claims considering it's Goku. But Goku has almost no links on his stamina/endurance feats. What's Goku's stamina feats against being cut, dismembered, or impaled? Miyabi doesn't need to go for any lethal blows, but causing him to pass out from bleeding would be sufficient. She doesn't need a spatial cut for that, her having a slight ap advantage and a sword is more than enough to make clean cuts through Goku.

The only time I remember Goku dealing with piercing or slashing damage was when Bulma shot him, but I don't really think that counts. Even so, the question is whether Miyabi could actually land a cut on Goku, considering the skill gap.

 

[LaserPrecision]

The only time I remember Goku dealing with piercing or slashing damage was when Bulma shot him, but I don't really think that counts. Even so, the question is whether Miyabi could actually land a cut on Goku, considering the skill gap.

Goku's skill section is completely barren of scans, and rather short to be frank. In fact, Miyabi's skill section is more detailed and complete by comparison. Not saying that makes her more skilled of course, but the skill gap shouldn't be so massive Miyabi can't even land a single blow.

 

[MannyQ361]

Well, there are these cases where Goku got hit by bladed attacks, but suffered blunt force damage rather than piercing damage. But he was able to avoid getting hit when alert and fought sword users with his power pole.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Well, there are these cases where Goku got hit by bladed attacks, but suffered blunt force damage rather than piercing damage.

Okay, so we don't know how well he takes being cut, dismembered, or gutted. I'd assume he'd bleed out from any deep wounds pretty quickly then. Not instantly, but within a minute at most I give him (Unless you've got other feats of him fighting for a longer time with severe wounds like having a gaping hole in him).

But he was able to avoid getting hit when alert and fought sword users with his power pole.

So he does seem to avoid being cut by anyone actually relative to him. He should be able to avoid some slashes, but I don't think he'll up that up the entire time. Especially when Miyabi (At least from the little on her profile) seems competent in close quarters to where she could keep up.

 

[Sooshirohl]

hmm, actually rescind my goku vote for now, might try and argue a bit more for miyabi with the points laser brought up

 

[LaserPrecision]

I also wanna say if Goku tries sword fighting with his power pole, unless power pole has way higher durability than him, it'll prolly get cut in half. And even if it doesn't, the LS gap is so huge it would knock the power pole out of his hands and disarm him resulting in him being cut instead, due to the lack of necessary ap and ls to clash. Power Pole isn't a good option.

 

[Sooshirohl]

I also wanna say if Goku tries sword fighting with his power pole, unless power pole has way higher durability than him, it'll prolly get cut in half. And even if it doesn't, the LS gap is so huge it would knock the power pole out of his hands and disarm him resulting in him being cut instead, due to the lack of necessary ap and ls to clash. Power Pole isn't a good option.

shouldn't goku's LS be way higher than miyabi's with this specific key actually? from the looks of it on his profile i think he upscales from the class T rating

 

[LaserPrecision]

shouldn't goku's LS be way higher than miyabi's with this specific key actually? from the looks of it on his profile i think he upscales from the class T rating

Oh, guess so. Sorry, have a hard time reading keys sometimes. Yeah, he'd have the LS advantage. It'd just be a matter of if her sword cuts his Power Pole in half trying to clash it then.