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Black Clover General Discussion thread
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But it doesn't sound so insane does it?I mean the general problem I had with it was the fact that her creation feats are conditional so what if just include the conditions? She wouldn't scale close outside the realm...kinda like an "omnipotent in my dimension" situation.
But it doesn't sound so insane does it?I mean the general problem I had with it was the fact that her creation feats are conditional so what if just include the conditions? She wouldn't scale close outside the realm...kinda like an "omnipotent in my dimension" situation.
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You gave her that, then you gave others characters the same rating for destroying her dimension, scaling scaling, high 3-A AstaTuff
But it doesn't sound so insane does it?I mean the general problem I had with it was the fact that her creation feats are conditional so what if just include the conditions? She wouldn't scale close outside the realm...kinda like an "omnipotent in my dimension" situation.
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I'm not sure anyone other than Yami has done that... And that's a cut through dimensions Hax ability. It's not like he did an omnidirectional attack in the first place. Other than that the only once that have destroyed the dimension are Dorothy and Reve which of course have that ap inside said realm... Also lucifero I guess with some hax... Although that is easily defendable when you have the full picture but mehn.
Ah whatever beyond this point is wonky stuff that just...I don't even know what it is tbh
Anyways lucifero could do that for 2 reasons
1. It probably wasn't fully realized (the realm)
2. The nature of his ability: this is based on a broader concept I've been thinking about but when lucifero was able to idk almost destroy the world and fate with his presence, I didn't think about it as a planetary destruction stuff. I was leaning towards the idea about forbidden/devil magic able to affect the "shape of the world" and stuff because the word "fate" was used. It seemed more like his gravity magic had a way of affecting stuff in general not just physical destruction. But idk man the first one seems a bit sufficient I think.
Ah whatever beyond this point is wonky stuff that just...I don't even know what it is tbh
Anyways lucifero could do that for 2 reasons
1. It probably wasn't fully realized (the realm)
2. The nature of his ability: this is based on a broader concept I've been thinking about but when lucifero was able to idk almost destroy the world and fate with his presence, I didn't think about it as a planetary destruction stuff. I was leaning towards the idea about forbidden/devil magic able to affect the "shape of the world" and stuff because the word "fate" was used. It seemed more like his gravity magic had a way of affecting stuff in general not just physical destruction. But idk man the first one seems a bit sufficient I think.
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Oh... I mean same thing. It wasn't an omnidirectional stuff just hax that could alter that area and then render it not part of the realm or smth. Kinda like popping a bubble from one particular spot. He didn't affect "everything" inside just the specific area and that's more than enough given his ability.
Hm I remember something like him being in a panel with the world in the background and Dorothy was like "welcome to my crib" and THEN he nullified it.
Hold on that Morris stuff, Imma go read the manga again.
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The probability is actually high; it's already accepted that she's at level 3-A, and she literally destroyed that world when she fought Reve. It can't be clearer than that. The problem is UES, which dominates the entire power scale of the characters on the Wiki, which is honestly kind of dumb and also not accepted within the Wiki.
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she can get it with creation
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Ok i checked to confirm and yh as I thought it was completely off screen. Anything could have happened. Also the way Morris phrases it, I'm not sure it's something that affected everywhere in glamour world. It could definitely have had a range of some kilometers to meters and still do that...or it could have been that he just altered the concept in general BUT it also couldn't have been that because he has to make some sort of contact.so it seems like he just modified a finite space or something. A proper 3A should be him modifying everything or modifying the very concept that would affect everything which Morris can't do.
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What does UES have to do with anything here
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Woops it's my bed time 
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Woops it's my bed time
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Black Clover doesn't adapt to the UES , the nature of a mage's magic has much more influence on their physical attributes and AP than the amount of magical power, and there is plenty of evidence of this in the work.
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1% chance of happening
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Multiple tab issue. I sent it the first time, refreshed another tab I think because I locked my phone then opened it again so yh...
Ok dude good night you dont gotta say it twice
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i dont even know what UES is but i saw something about the nature off a mages magic having more influence on their physicals and ap than the amount of magic power but I don't even think the nature affects that. The effects from exercising of magic power being determined by nature of attribute is what I 100% agree with.
Also seems my repetition of messages wasn't a tab/refresh issue because I tried using my PC and it doesn't seem to send properly also. Infact loading the site gave me some issues for some reason.
Anyways, what do you all think about the glamour world stuff? No one scales to it as of now anyways so only Dorothy and Reve would have that ap which would specify glamour world.
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Also I was watching the anime and found gold! Langris or ratri called the clover kingdoms king light magic slow! For those of us working on speed problems
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Uhh yo got more context?
Uhh anyways julius stated that he could react to patry without precognition at some point in the anime but the anime kinda doesnt have that much weight unless its canon parts
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The leaves of the clover are said to each contain one thing, in the first three dwell uhh, uhh, uhhh
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Yh looking at it again, it wasn't like a projectile. The king had just activated his spell (which took yrs) then before he did anything langris just erased the upper area( which wasn't even that quick the king is fodder) but the point is something I'm sure real black clover fans are already aware of... light magic doesn't in any way have a fixed speed same with dark magic as it in the end depends on the individual just that light magic has property advantages just like any other property. So in a case of mages on equal footing battling, the one with light magic would probably have the upper hand in speed. I just thought an in house statement would be useful (direct implications from anime I mean)
Saw that too. Honestly Julius moved faster than patri multiple times. Now I'm not an expert in calcs or anything but Julius himself clearly was out speeding patri a decent number of times. But I'll leave that to another person or a future me with a better know how.
What makes something canon?
I just think as long as it's anime or manga. I think manga should take the win when a direct contradiction occurs but other than that both seem fine.
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And in the fourth dwells the gaaaah
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Its a light construct so it doest really count as light speed necessarily, moreover its literally a statue that just stands there. Its also in the manga btw.
Uhh not really? What moments cause i could calc them, but i didnt see any moments that could be calced since it was just tp spamming. (He did hit him with time accel while he was going light speed thoo)
This site is very strict with it sadly. No.What makes something canon?
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I dont think you realize that would do more harm than good, but anyway, that statement is useless, since it's about a light construct, those aren't considered light speed
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Like if an anime adaption is better than the source material, it always ends up a shame since it can't be used.
Yes I'm saying this as a Mashle fan
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I probably missed the context then. Langris calling it slow gave me the impression it would've done something even if also useless.
Oh tp... Yh that's probably it. At least 99% of them. Maybe I'll go fishing later to see what I can find
Bummer. Is there a place where they explain it? Like a page or something
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Would it? My thought process was to establish the fact that light magic doesn't have a fixed speed value. In the first place I'm sure any light speed calc we have is not based on the magic being light speed but a statement and other stuff.
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Current cap is based on Morgen getting a light speed statement again, so yes.
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So what would be the maximum speed in the verse?
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Here and know, I'm going to surpass our wanks
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as in right now?
right now the max speed is Dark Elf Patry who's ftl
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And after the cleaning?
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Subsonic
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Is there a way I can help with the profiles?
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