Lady Death's Payback ! (Yogiri vs Nier | 0 - 7 - 2)

[BoastJr]

Rules :
1. Speed is Equalised
2. Avatar Yogiri is used
3. Low 2C (Post Revival) Nier is used
4. Yogiri is rated 6D here
5. Nier has prep knowledge on Yogiri

Lady Death : @Mr._East_Statement @Mbpoops @TheGreatJedi13 @3Pencil @Legacy30 @Dark_Soul20189 @Zanesucksatlife
The End of All Things :
Incon : @Azertyhuuh @Iiliminal

Fight OST :

 

[Mbpoops]

Azerty vs thegreatjedi

 

[Ruler_Star_Kuma]

Yeah so Yogiri cannot interact with Death, the heck happens from here on

 

[Mr._East_Statement]

Tbh, I vote for Nier for obvious reasons.

She just has better haxes overall, since the pages, immortality isn't a problem either since she already can counter's Yogiri's immortality, for that matter

Regeneration Negation & Immortality Negation (Types 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 & 8, Up to Mid-Godly; Able to negate Primals' Regeneration and can completely kill Primals)
Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 1, Aspects 1, 2, 3 & 4; Death can act even if terminated destroying the power that terminated her in the first place.[23] And was able to act and resurrect herself despite being absorbed in her entirety by inchoate World[17])

Plus, to make it worse, she has smurf hax even in her Tier-2 key anyway

Law Manipulation & Fate Manipulation (7-D, likely 8-D; Death was able to act and return[23] even after being decreed to be terminated by Inchoate World[27] and As Death Resist all the Laws of Inchoate World, she also resists the natural order of Fate and Destiny in his world[28])
Time Manipulation, Absorption & Sealing (7-D, likely 8-D; After breaking free Death gained resistances to Inchoate World's abilities)

Sooo… kinda gg

 

[Mbpoops]

Mr east statement FRA

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Death dies and somehow comes back and resists Yogurts' hax or erases it in the process

 

[Azertyhuuh]

I don't see any winner here. Nier cannot erase natural nonexistence type 1 and all of its aspects, so she would not be able to do anything against him.

 

[Iiliminal]

Yakub and his children are following.

 

[Azertyhuuh]

Tbh, I vote for Nier for obvious reasons.

She just has better haxes overall, since the pages, immortality isn't a problem either since she already can counter's Yogiri's immortality, for that matter



Plus, to make it worse, she has smurf hax even in her Tier-2 key anyway



Sooo… kinda gg

How would you deal with this?

• Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 1; Aspects Type 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 [Other: Fate, History, Causality, Space-Time, Life & Death] - He is the end of everything and the final destination of all fates. He is the only one who will remain in the end because he is the End itself,His darkness represents the end of all things, where nothing remains—a void of nonexistence that allows nothing to exist. Nothing can exist here, and there is nothing beyond him, as he transcends everything)

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

Imo Nier wins.
She's got better hax that I can see

 

[BoastJr]

Votes have been counted. I'll wait on Jedi

 

[Iiliminal]

Azerty wins FRA.

 

[Azertyhuuh]

Some people are voting for Nier to win even though she has no way to win against Yogiri.

 

[Legacy30]

Lady Death : @Mr._East_Statement @Mbpoops @Mbpoops

I never knew Jedi was Mbpoops alt, or that Mbpoop had a twin. Getting to vote twice is too strong.
Mbpoops FRA.

 

[Mr._East_Statement]

How would you deal with this?

• Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 1; Aspects Type 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 [Other: Fate, History, Causality, Space-Time, Life & Death] - He is the end of everything and the final destination of all fates. He is the only one who will remain in the end because he is the End itself,His darkness represents the end of all things, where nothing remains—a void of nonexistence that allows nothing to exist. Nothing can exist here, and there is nothing beyond him, as he transcends everything)

Nier should be able to interact with Otherworlders, like almost anybody else, while possessing Nature 1 NEP likewise herself.

And, mind you, has L1-A range (or in other words, hax range via concept), all Primal Beasts possess such a range, in fact.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

How would you deal with this?

• Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 1; Aspects Type 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 [Other: Fate, History, Causality, Space-Time, Life & Death] - He is the end of everything and the final destination of all fates. He is the only one who will remain in the end because he is the End itself,His darkness represents the end of all things, where nothing remains—a void of nonexistence that allows nothing to exist. Nothing can exist here, and there is nothing beyond him, as he transcends everything)

Since we are using low 2-C keys for Nier
Then I would only argue for what she has there.

1. Firstly, Primal Beast and their Astral energy, despite not being effective against Otherworldly beings who have NEP type 2 can still affect them to some degree
2. second. Although Yogiri is the end of everything. Such is not the case in Granblue because concepts like Death, Destruction, Rebirth, Creation, and End are just part of a single Providence that the Omnipotent has created
3. Nier's Death represents the end of things, much like Yogiri. But it has the capacity to evolve due to Death being linked to Rebirth and Rebirth being linked to evolution. This is seen where
   Inchoate World, who has already reached the level that he can create his own Providence Terminated Death from Providence Itself that he created
4. Death died and came back and even destroyed the very power that allowed Inchoate World to terminate Death from Providence
5. Inchoate then explained How Death works and that not even he can escape it normally. and how it applies to everything, and these Laws of Nature (Sometimes referred to as Providence) are irreversible (This is long to explain, but lets just say Laws of Nature is like a 1-A Law). But since He is basically on the level of Creator, the very act of death is something he can resist and subjugate, and proceeded to kill Death and absorb its remains
6. Death comes back YET AGAIN despite her entirety being absorbed completely. Then later is explained as the power to evolve

Now what does this all mean?
This means that Nonexistence, which still falls under the Laws of Nature, is something Death can affect. And we literally have the Primal Beast that represents Void and Nonexistence, who can exist without a core and simply as a shade and be affected by Astral Energies

and besides

• Nonexistent Physiology (Nature Type 1, Aspects 1, 2, 3 & 4; Death can act even if terminated, destroying the power that terminated her in the first place.<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Nier_(Granblue_Fantasy)#cite_note-Oddity-23"><span>[</span>23<span>]</span></a> And was able to act and resurrect herself despite being absorbed in her entirety by inchoate World<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Nier_(Granblue_Fantasy)#cite_note-Alive-17"><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a>)

Death itself is capable of acting while nonexistent, yet was absorbed by the Inchoate World ultimately, and yet again, Death acted against it later on, showing that She can also interact with her own self while nonexistent to finally use energy to manifest herself back to existence

If you're arguing also Other: Fate, History, Causality, Space-Time, Life & Death

These, too, don't mean much, as those are all concepts in Granblue and by default are nonexistent in their true form as Sky Essence, and by default, NPI to concept allows them to interact with it

Fate being part of the wedge
History being Akasha
Causality being Orologia
Space-Time being Akasha and Angra Mainyu
Life and Death are tied to Destruction and Creation

Oh and killing Nier does nothing as Death can just revive her
and also this

 

[3Pencil]

Nier

Yogiri has no wincons and whatever he does nier can just regenerate

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Nier FRA.

 

[BoastJr]

This can be added I suppose. I'll request a Mod to close this

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

This cant be added since its a stomp.

 

[Vietthai96]

Closing