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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

Mbpoops said:
because making a staff thread over type 4 acausality only annoys staff its pointless.
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We won't go over this only omfg stop saying that. I've told u a billion times we're gonna go over all skills that stem from Izumo including history, info, concept, spacetime, causality and equally those resistances. Most of those come from the izumo feat.
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
We won't go over this only omfg stop saying that. I've told u a billion times we're gonna go over all skills that stem from Izumo including history, info, concept, spacetime, causality and equally those resistances. Most of those come from the izumo feat.
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Y'all discarding feats nowadays? What the ****
 
Voidnether said:
Y'all discarding feats nowadays? What the ****
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Okay let me explain again
The previous CRT regarding Acheron resulted in the removal of Acausality from the relevant profiles. However, that thread appears to have created a broader issue regarding the justification structure of those profiles.

The feat discussed in that CRT was not used exclusively to justify Acausality. Rather, it served as the basis for multiple abilities and resistances, including but not limited to History Erasure, History Erasure Resistance, Space-Time Erasure, Space-Time Erasure Resistance, Information Erasure, Information Erasure Resistance, Conceptual Erasure, Conceptual Erasure Resistance, and potentially several others depending on the profile in question. Additionally, these abilities are chainscalled to multiple other profiles.

Despite this, the discussion in the original CRT was focused almost entirely on Acausality itself. The wider implications of accepting or rejecting the feat as a whole were never comprehensively addressed. As a result, only one ability was removed while numerous other abilities deriving from the same feat remained untouched.

If the conclusion was that the feat no longer supports Acausality, then either:
  1. The feat itself remained valid and only the Acausality interpretation was rejected (not possible as the feat is used for at least 5 more abilities) or
  2. The feat was deemed invalid altogether, in which case every ability and resistance justified by that feat should have been reevaluated simultaneously.
Instead, the result has been a fragmented situation where the same feat is being revisited repeatedly through separate CRTs targeting individual abilities one at a time.

Four days ago, I created a CRT intended to restore Acausality and address these inconsistencies. However, despite the original thread having concluded approximately two weeks earlier, a new CRT was subsequently opened seeking to remove History Erasure as well.

If the original feat was already debated and used as the foundation for the Acausality discussion, then the validity of that feat should have been settled during that CRT. Reopening separate threads to challenge individual abilities derived from the exact same feat effectively results in the underlying feat being relitigated repeatedly rather than addressed comprehensively. I believe my thread addresses every argument and tackles the feat entirely and thus every skill/resistance deriving from it and should thus be used to address it once and for all.
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Tl;dr: His crt unknowingly "debunked" (it wasn't cuz mods vote with eyes closed) the entire Izumo feat. To that feat were attributed most of EE skills and resistances acheron, IX and nihility have. So we need to fix it by either fully accepting it or not.
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
Okay let me explain again

Tl;dr: His crt unknowingly "debunked" (it wasn't cuz mods vote with eyes closed) the entire Izumo feat. To that feat were attributed most of EE skills and resistances acheron, IX and nihility have. So we need to fix it by either fully accepting it or not.
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I think you can ignore it since CRTs are actually based on the proposal and not the feats, I encountered a similar situation where Scoops had its possibly H1-C removal thread accepted which brought the Aether Network scans that also stated the whole verse is capped to Speed of Light basically. Turns out we never implemented the speed cap and this is nonexistent just because it wasn't proposed on the thread. I debated him like 3-4 hours when I tried to cap Genshin Impact to only be SoL lmao unless they had Imaginary Energy
 
Voidnether said:
I think you can ignore it since CRTs are actually based on the proposal and not the feats, I encountered a similar situation where Scoops had its possibly H1-C removal thread accepted which brought the Aether Network scans that also stated the whole verse is capped to Speed of Light basically. Turns out we never implemented the speed cap and this is nonexistent just because it wasn't proposed on the thread. I debated him like 3-4 hours when I tried to cap Genshin Impact to only be SoL lmao unless they had Imaginary Energy
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I get it but it feels unintuitive. How can the feat be "debunked" to remove 1 ability while keeping the others? Especially when they use the SAME justifications?
 
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Asat toyed with TB, SW with partial lvl999 mode and Graphia without even using his Almighty, then handled Yaoguang, Welt, DHPT, Himeko, Ashveil and March all at once across the planet while broadcasting his aurafarm speech on live TV 💔💔💔
 
Scrubforhire said:
Asat toyed with TB, SW with partial lvl999 mode and Graphia without even using his Almighty, then handled Yaoguang, Welt, DHPT, Himeko, Ashveil and March all at once across the planet while broadcasting his aurafarm speech on live TV 💔💔💔
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Welt pulled biggest asspull ive seen by using black hole to teleport yao guang 💔 💔 Plus using Cane to smack Asat LOL
 
Can we like stop saying dan heng isnt star level now? This mf yao guang was glazing star level Oroboros.. a ******* aeon. so them glazing doomsday beast for eating planets is just PIS
 
Asat is a menace but then I read the Furbo news interview featuring him and this guy legit lives like a regular dude. He buys takeout because he doesn't have time to cook, mails fanfics to his fellow Ravagers, goes to the gym, is a foodie, complains about his job not giving health insurance and has back problems.

This guy is so chill if he isn't doing his job dawg 😭😭😭
 
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Scrubforhire said:
Asat is a menace but then I read the Furbo news interview featuring him and this guy legit lives like a regular dude. He buys takeout because he doesn't have time to cook, mails fanfics to his fellow Ravagers, goes to the gym, is a foodie, complains about his job not giving health insurance and has back problems.

This guy is so chill if he isn't doing his job dawg 😭😭😭
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My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.
 
Scrubforhire said:
Asat is a menace but then I read the Furbo news interview featuring him and this guy legit lives like a regular dude. He buys takeout because he doesn't have time to cook, mails fanfics to his fellow Ravagers, goes to the gym, is a foodie, complains about his job not giving health insurance and has back problems.

This guy is so chill if he isn't doing his job dawg 😭😭😭
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Considering that Elation is like do/enjoy something fun in life, the dude who is the opposite of Elation doing the most normal and boring thing in life is very spot on
 
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