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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

Not involved but i feel like someone should say it, I think accusing the current president of the United State(of which many members here maybe have voted for) of crimes(genocide)
Just a brief clarification that this is not what I said. I intended to refer to Trump's self-stated intentions to bomb Iran back to the stone age for fun, not that he has personally committed genocide already. Although there is also the Gaza issue, which a large majority of experts have classified as a genocide.

That is all. Let's leave the subject now please. 🙏
 
I'm not sure if action should be taken against Slav at this time.
Well, in my mind the 'Would LOVE to have my fun with you' after asking for the other socials at the least does sound very threatening in nature.

Though, in context, I'm guessing they just mean they're willing to move to other platforms to continue the argument, since it comes in direct response to what they perceive as Ant hinting that they will be banned here for their views.

So, giving them the benefit of the doubt, I'd agree on not punishing them.
 
Well, in my mind the 'Would LOVE to have my fun with you' after asking for the other socials at the least does sound very threatening in nature.

Though, in context, I'm guessing they just mean they're willing to move to other platforms to continue the argument, since it comes in direct response to what they perceive as Ant hinting that they will be banned here for their views.

So, giving them the benefit of the doubt, I'd agree on not punishing them.
I think it's more likely a threat of harassment. I don't deny that. But I am more willing to extend the benefit of leniency when its A. not very explicit and B. a response to a staff member pressing a controversial matter in discussion.

If we wanted to punish them, I'm not exactly opposed, but I'm feeling more lenient with the specifics of the situation being what they are.
 
If we wanted to punish them, I'm not exactly opposed, but I'm feeling more lenient with the specifics of the situation being what they are.
Have they been notified that they've been reported here? I think hearing from them at all might help us decide where we lean exactly.

@Slav We recognize that Ant was talking about some pretty controversial politics, and we've already implored him to stop doing that- but your comment about his other socials and 'having [your] fun with [him]' are concerning, and some are interpreting it as a threat.

A response from you would be appreciated.
 
Have they been notified that they've been reported here? I think hearing from them at all might help us decide where we lean exactly.

@Slav We recognize that Ant was talking about some pretty controversial politics, and we've already implored him to stop doing that- but your comment about his other socials and 'having [your] fun with [him]' are concerning, and some are interpreting it as a threat.

A response from you would be appreciated.
I've already responded to that when he brought it up. In a previous comment I have told him that I'd love to discuss the politics on a more appropriate platform ( For example Discord. ) given how this site is not the place for it, because I started finding the debate fun.

On my next response I told him I'm done discussing the topic on a powerscaling site, and asked him for another social, so that I can "have my fun with him" in the context of me debating him on this, since yes, I am very confident this is a debate I'd win quite easily.

When he tried to buzzword this situation by describing it as me "threatening to stalk him" I made it very clear that was just me offering a debate, and that he's free to decline. I don't see the threat there, and I think it's over-the-top to interpret this as one. Then again, I guess anything to ban the opposition, huh?
 
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Not anything to ban the opposition. I explicitly didn't mind other people who disagreed with me in that thread at all, and have a long history of not reacting to most insults against me in this community overall.

Given your smug and mocking provocative trolling attitude and that it was triggered by me mentioning a reliable report calculating an over 14 million poor and starving people death toll for Elon Musk, and you decided to shoot the messenger rather than getting angry at Elon himself about it, and your apparent extremely strong support for everything Trump and Musk stand for, I just have the impression that you are a genuinely ideologically evil and empathy- and conscience-deprived human being, which is enormously worse than somebody just insulting me, and I consider far too toxic and extremist to fit in what is supposed to be a nice and friendly international community where people from all countries are welcome, rather than being sent to hellish prisons. 🙏
 
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On my next response I told him I'm done discussing the topic on a powerscaling site, and asked him for another social, so that I can "have my fun with him" in the context of me debating him on this, since yes, I am very confident this is a debate I'd win quite easily.
That's sort of what I thought, and I don't necessarily blame you for getting a little dramatic when Ant was and literally still is calling you evil and conscience-deprived. I'd still support simply moving on then.
Nevertheless, I apologise to our community for my own unfiltered behaviour recently. I am currently in a stressed out mood in general. 🙏
I do empathize with you being stressed out, and I definitely understand how the state of the US can be extremely divisive and depressing- but Ant I'd reiterate that we have rules against politics for a reason, and I find it highly inappropriate to continue to drag out this disagreement here.

Either take them up on the offer to argue about it elsewhere, or please stop talking about it and escalating by accusing them of being evil for having a political view that, tragic or not, is extremely common, in fact a majority given who won the election. You're free to have any thoughts you want about that, but this isn't the place to discuss it.
 
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LOOK, HE UPLOADED AGAIN.

Please, i beg you, to restrict this guy from making any threads and delete all of his threads, really, cause this is so annoying. He clearly doesn't know anything's works.
This guy uploaded another CRT again..
https://vsbattles.com/threads/i-bel...-should-be-added-to-columbina-profile.191599/

He've been warned by @TWILIGHT-OP twice and @ActuallySpaceMan42 on his message wall, and he still didn't listen at all. This is like his 5th CRT he made even though there are currently 3 active genshin CRTs.

At this point, just ban him. Already warned 3 times, still didn't listen and keep uploading 5 Genshin CRTs in short timeframe, god knows if he aware that there are 3 active CRTs.
 
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I suppose that we will likely have to give them a temporary warning ban then. 🙏
 
What do our staff members here think? Should we lock all of their recent threads and give them a final warning, or apply a ban, and if so, how long should it be? 1 month or more? 🙏
 
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I want to report both @Makai641001 and @Cursed_Copycat for their replies here


Makai is literally stonewalling everyone, replying to everyone within less than 2 or 3 minutes to just clutter the thread, and also saying things like “you’re slow” or “you’re funny ngl” and making more ironic comments

Cursed on the other hand is doing the same but saying things like “this is such a low iq debunk” for something that’s as obvious as a blue sky.
 
I want to report both @Makai641001 and @Cursed_Copycat for their replies here


Makai is literally stonewalling everyone, replying to everyone within less than 2 or 3 minutes to just clutter the thread, and also saying things like “you’re slow” or “you’re funny ngl” and making more ironic comments

Cursed on the other hand is doing the same but saying things like “this is such a low iq debunk” for something that’s as obvious as a blue sky.
Sorry if i offended you that’s mb you did came a bit agressive tho to the point where other members asked you to chill out.

We actually brought up more evidence that you dodged using a simili tier 6 anti feat (when characters weaker are casual tier 5 busters).

Again sorry if i offended you

I would also back up @m3x about @Cursed_Copycat his attitude is weird
 
Sorry if i offended you that’s mb you did came a bit agressive tho to the point where other members asked you to chill out.
Which is why I stopped replying and also because it wasn’t going anywhere.
We actually brought up more evidence that you dodged using a simili tier 6 anti feat (when characters weaker are casual tier 5 busters).
I didn’t dodge anything, I stopped replying cause the thread was getting heated and there was no point in doing so for the moment, considering you kept repeating the same points over and over again without any substance.

Someone replies to you and you take less than 2 minutes to answer back, and you obviously fail to do so, because there’s no substance in your points. You’re replying for the sake of replying.

Literally, there are around 20 regular members and like 5 or 6 staff members agreeing with the thread and you don’t even take the thread seriously.
 
Which is why I stopped replying and also because it wasn’t going anywhere.

I didn’t dodge anything, I stopped replying cause the thread was getting heated and there was no point in doing so for the moment, considering you kept repeating the same points over and over again without any substance.

Someone replies to you and you take less than 2 minutes to answer back, and you obviously fail to do so, because there’s no substance in your points. You’re replying for the sake of replying.
We brought up New uncontested evidence about Cath channeling it’s entire Chaos Power inside a shield.

And you didn’t adress it in fact no one did or Could
Literally, there are around 20 regular members and like 5 or 6 staff members agreeing with the thread and you don’t even take the thread seriously.
They instantly agreed before supporters could Even argue about it.

Which means their vote is based solely on your interpretation of the situation and feats and you obviously are not knowledgable on the verse
 
We brought up New uncontested evidence about Cath channeling it’s entire Chaos Power inside a shield.

And you didn’t adress it in fact no one did or Could
Again, nothing there is new. @KingTempest asked you questions about, actually very simple questions and you completely stonewalled him. He asked his questions and 3 minutes later you reply with absolutely nothing new, nothing of substance, because you're not taking it seriously and are not taking your time to think properly on how to answer his questions.
They instantly agreed before supporters could Even argue about it.

Which means their vote is based solely on your interpretation of the situation and feats and you obviously are not knowledgable on the verse
Besides the point, which is the fact that you're not taking anything seriously. Every time someone replies, you instantly reply to them. Your first reply to me had this:
Same goes for him
It’s not
You just nuh uh'd me, you did that with Tempest, as well as @Digital_Franz. And you did that a lot of times.
 
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I want to report both @Makai641001 and @Cursed_Copycat for their replies here


Makai is literally stonewalling everyone, replying to everyone within less than 2 or 3 minutes to just clutter the thread, and also saying things like “you’re slow” or “you’re funny ngl” and making more ironic comments

Cursed on the other hand is doing the same but saying things like “this is such a low iq debunk” for something that’s as obvious as a blue sky.
Are you serious? You report me after repeatedly cussing people out, when I gave you COUNTER ARGUMENTS? Genuinely how old are you.
 
I told Makai once to "hop off". Stop lying for no reason.
Nah bruh, half of your mentions having you hitting the “*******” swearing censors. You’re literally cussing people out then got offended when I called you out for that.
That was unprofessional enough, then you hit a full on “ignoring and reporting you” when I do so. I’d apologize for my comment if you either agreed to acknowledge counter arguments, or simply dismiss the thread if you didn’t feel like arguing. Instead you double down and go straight to a report. That’s just about the most childish thing you could have done.
 
Nah bruh, half of your mentions having you hitting the “*******” swearing censors. You’re literally cussing people out then got offended when I called you out for that.
That was unprofessional enough, then you hit a full on “ignoring and reporting you” when I do so. I’d apologize for my comment if you either agreed to acknowledge counter arguments, or simply dismiss the thread if you didn’t feel like arguing. Instead you double down and go straight to a report. That’s just about the most childish thing you could have done.
I can swear as much as I want as long as I don't try to bypass the filter and it's not directed to someone else, which was my case. I was saying "******* character" or just "****". I'm not entertaining this anymore. We're not supposed to.
 
Whatever you say man 🙄

Sorry to anyone else reading this for the complete waste of time this report is. Complete abuse of this system over getting offended by his premise being challenged.
 
I want to report both @Makai641001 and @Cursed_Copycat for their replies here


Makai is literally stonewalling everyone, replying to everyone within less than 2 or 3 minutes to just clutter the thread, and also saying things like “you’re slow” or “you’re funny ngl” and making more ironic comments

Cursed on the other hand is doing the same but saying things like “this is such a low iq debunk” for something that’s as obvious as a blue sky.
You were the first one to be aggressive, in the way you're reporting Cursed for ("Honestly this is such an ass debunk, I can't believe you'd waste time writing it"). You are a staff member, and no matter how widely agreed upon something is, it falls to you to make an even greater effort to follow the rules. To me, it reads like you really didn't make an effort at all, here. You took every opportunity to denigrate and accuse the supporters of this verse. Even though I agree with the sentiments of your OP (without looking through the evidence too much), I think your behavior in this thread was demonstrably worse than either of the two you've reported. Being right cannot allow users to be rude. It simply cannot be.

Insofar as the toxicity end of this report goes, I do think action is warranted against Makai (posts like this really suck and shouldn't be tolerated), but I think you, M3X, behaved the worst on the thread, and started it. I'm neutral on action with Cursed, he definitely did say the "low IQ debunk" thing but given it was parroting one of the very first posts by M3X, and I think the worst post from the user (maybe calling M3X 13 years old and lacking reading comprehension is comparable, but eh), I find it hard to pursue hard action when the ball was already rolling several pages before they got there.

Regarding stonewalling: Makai posted here that they were going to sleep, at 1:13, and by 1:30, had sent a further 11 messages. However, it's not like he was the only one posting a ton at the time. In the same timeframe, DaReaperMan (who is not being accused here, for the record, I'm just using him by way of random example) posted 4, and this certainly isn't his own verse. Arkenis posted 5 times. I'm saying this to say that I think there is a realistic case to be made that Makai was stonewalling, but I think the more likely explanation is that he just believes what he's saying and was arguing on many fronts at the same time. A lot of users need to learn to reply to multiple people in one reply, but. It is what it is. I'd be in favor of a warning to just try to do so in the future, so that threads do not become clogged up. I don't find Cursed's actions to strongly resemble stonewalling.

End of the day, I think tensions rose unnecessarily high and everyone involved needs to take a break. Nothing on this site is this serious or worth getting upset over. It's a silly little website for talking about fictional characters, nothing more. Be good, have fun, etc.
 
I don’t mind calling me out because I did wrote some shit there, and that’s the reason you see my absence for a few pages like maybe from 3 or 4 to 6, thread was getting heated and I dipped because it wasn’t going anywhere and cause I was feeling I was gonna get a warning, so I stopped commenting for a few pages.

I don’t even mind getting a warning, like, at all, really. I just want actions to be taken because that thread was derailed to hell with topics not related to the OP, and how Cursed came in spitting a lot of shit for no reason at all (which was why I told him to “shut the **** up” after posting like what, 3 report worthy comments in 5 minutes?).

I didn’t want my thread to turn into a staff only thread but it was the only possible outcome given the derailment and how heated it was during pages 5 to 7.
 
I don’t mind calling me out because I did wrote some shit there, and that’s the reason you see my absence for a few pages like maybe from 3 or 4 to 6, thread was getting heated and I dipped because it wasn’t going anywhere and cause I was feeling I was gonna get a warning, so I stopped commenting for a few pages.

I don’t even mind getting a warning, like, at all, really. I just want actions to be taken because that thread was derailed to hell with topics not related to the OP, and how Cursed came in spitting a lot of shit for no reason at all (which was why I told him to “shut the **** up” after posting like what, 3 report worthy comments in 5 minutes?).

I didn’t want my thread to turn into a staff only thread but it was the only possible outcome given the derailment and how heated it was during pages 5 to 7.
I cannot decide that. Only HR can, if someone wished to litigate the issue. But I do think your behavior is worse than the other two you're reporting, which dampens the severity of their actions: people acting aggressive in response to a staff member acting aggressive is a bit more understandable than just acting aggressive out of nowhere.
 
But I do think your behavior is worse than the other two you're reporting
This I disagree with, I think you’re exaggerating since I did not attack the person but the argument, might still be unnecessary sure, but not worse than them. But I don’t mind that to dispute it, actions were taken in the end of the day, and the thread is now under control, even though it’s not the outcome I wanted (which is being staff only).
people acting aggressive in response to a staff member acting aggressive is a bit more understandable than just acting aggressive out of nowhere.
And this I think it’s just giving them an excuse for their behavior. When was Cursed’s first comment? Like page 5? 6? He didn’t even quote my rather ignorant comment, he quoted a regular comment of mine and said “low iq debunk”, he actually started that.

But as I said, I don’t mind the outcome, and actions were taken, anyway.
 
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