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This is confusing to me?
If a Character can exist without a body and recreate their body, then clearly the erasure of their body wouldn't affect them? Are we assuming erasure would affect their abilities to make a new body?
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Re:Zero Spirit Physiology's Regeneration is not Actually Regeneration
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If a Character can exist without a body and recreate their body, then clearly the erasure of their body wouldn't affect them? Are we assuming erasure would affect their abilities to make a new body?
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Can exist without a body?. That mean body is not neccessary for them to exist?
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Well, yeah.
If a soul can create an entirely new body for itself, and is perfectly fine existing purely as a soul, doesn't that mean the body is not necessary for its existence?
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Then i don't see regeneration from it, because a physical body is not something necessary for them, they are originally exist as spirit which mean their spiritual body is what important, not the created vessel. Regen only count when you regen from the destruction of what important to your existence. So they need feats regen from complete destruction of their spiritual body to get regen
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Did you even understand what i said?. Physical body is completely unnecessary for Spirit, so its destruction is irrelevant for their existence, they makes new one cause physical body is simply a vessel, not an actual body that tied to their existence
The scans literally said injuries is meaningless to spirit as you need to damage the Od, because the Od is what actually constitute their bodies
Damn, i don't know that regen have this many issues
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My point was that nowhere was it ever stated that the physical body needed to be the “main” body. Thus, there isn't a requirement for that to get low godly, you just need to be able to regenerate a new body from a non physical aspect.
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Well, in that case, regeneration would have to be removed from anyone who can survive purely as a soul/spirit. Also, the fact that they can recreate their body after it's destroyed would still need to be catalogued somehow.
Edit: Creation wouldn't work since it's not being created from 'nothing'. And Avatar Creation wouldn't work, since it's not an avatar, it's their actual body.
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Avatar Creation actually would work.
"True body" in this case would be their incorporeal Od form since that's a Spirit's primary existence the sense that being able to injure one would require interacting with said form. The physical bodies allow Spirits to interact with the world in a way that the Od form can't.
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Interesting.
Well, alright then. I still think it's a weird division, but in a match, it would still function the same as Low Godly, so it doesn't change much.
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not really, if they can survives as spirit and then regenerate their actual physical bodies, then it is still Low-Godly, the issues with this case are spirit; well, exist as spirit, they don't need for a physical body and from what i have seen, just make one as a vessel
Also, we don't give anyone who can survives as spirit regeneration, unless they actually show regeneration feat, or have statement
i remember have this talk about this with DontTalkDT, it was about if one exist as soul and regen from complete destruction, would it be Mid-Godly and he said nope, it is Low-Godly cause the soul is the body itself so complete destruction of a soul body and regen from it will not count as Mid-Godly, so this case is similar but lower, and since in the case of spirit being they never need a physical body in the first place, making a new body wouldn't be a Low-Godly
Edit: Don't remember the thread though, it kinda long ago
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Gotcha. But in the versus match, it wouldn't make much of a difference, right? From the opponent's perspective, their 'body' can still be recreated after being erased, and they would still need to destroy their soul to kill them.
So it's Low-Godly, without being Low-Godly.
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Hmm, what about Unconventional Low-Godly Regeneration via X ability?????
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Sounds good to me.
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@Vietthai96 @ActuallySpaceMan42 could either of you move this to a CRT? I edited the OP with this change:
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Well, it wouldn't be Invulnerability; they can still be harmed, and so can the bodies they create.
It would be Unconventional Regeneration via Avatar Creation based on what Viett and I discussed.
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And it's not regeneration because they're not healing anything.
For example, Black S from One-Punch Man has Low-High pseudo-regeneration, but because it's technically just duplication, it's only mentioned as a note rather than as the ability
For example, Black S from One-Punch Man has Low-High pseudo-regeneration, but because it's technically just duplication, it's only mentioned as a note rather than as the ability
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no, because they are not really die, just their vessel destroyed, They only dies if you actually blast their actual spirit form to oblivion
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So Avatar Creation with a note that it can act as regeneration/restoration as long as they have mana?
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That should be on spirit page then. That'd show us they can regenerate their soul from complete destruction and I assume Od=mind?
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They do not regenerate their soul.
When their Od gets destroyed, they get destroyed too.
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I see. I forgot to ask about the regen part.
This is fine. But can yall add the examples of regeneration for the physical body?
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To be honest, i don't remember them losing an arm and then just regenerate it instantly, or anything like that (at least i don't remember it rn :d).
How long does it take for them to manifest again after low mana or simply from their previous vessel losing a fight and losing their form? Was it a day or something?
How long does it take for them to manifest again after low mana or simply from their previous vessel losing a fight and losing their form? Was it a day or something?
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From the mana-body being completely destroyed? A minute or two at most based on what Roswaal said after blasting away big Puck in Volume 15. And if they're low on mana they'd probably just flee and restore mana rather than rematerializing and continuing the fight.
Zabazab
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That's listed in his stamina because it describes that the standard way to kill a mana-body is to exhaust the soul's mana.
This very scan states that Arakiya was bisected, it just doesn't matter for Arakiya now. Arakiya is also a bit unique in her nature since she fused with a spirit and became spirit-like, which is why she can swap between having a meat body and a mana-body. Mana-bodies, unlike meat bodies, are easy to repair with mana.
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Is there any page where a spirit has regeneration feats?
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rocky road ice cream
Zabazab
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You posted one. Puck was fine after she got smashed into a pancake by the Unseen Hand. Puck was also fine after Roswaal blasted him away. And of course the entire nature of spirits, which necessitates their ability to reform a physical body from just their soul. Which is Low-Godly regeneration.
No fun allowed, I'll see you in RVR lil' guy.
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Nah that was probably someone else. I don't remember anything about Puck regenerating. But those should be on page.
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I don't get the point of this thread at all.
Whether or not the spirits have Avatar Creation is irrelevant to me. That purely depends on whether or not you consider the bodies created by spirits to be their 'true bodies' or not.
However, them having Low-Godly, whether Resurrection or Regeneration, is a non-negotiable.
Reason being that they can explicitly control the formation and deformation of themselves from a non-physical state of being, as long as their soul (Od) is fine.
Based on this excerpt provided by @Zabazab
Mana is the non-physical state of existence that they are physically restoring themselves from.
They are able to do this as long as they have a Soul.
The reasoning for them possessing Low-Godly is also almost the exact same as what Mahito currently has:
The only difference is that Spirits in Re: Zero have actually shown to materialize themselves from nothing, and are explicitly stated to be capable of controlling that capability of theirs. So it wouldn't even just be a 'possibly' rating.
There's no need to overcomplicate things. This is Low-Godly, plain and simply.
Whether or not the spirits have Avatar Creation is irrelevant to me. That purely depends on whether or not you consider the bodies created by spirits to be their 'true bodies' or not.
However, them having Low-Godly, whether Resurrection or Regeneration, is a non-negotiable.
Reason being that they can explicitly control the formation and deformation of themselves from a non-physical state of being, as long as their soul (Od) is fine.
Based on this excerpt provided by @Zabazab
Mana is the non-physical state of existence that they are physically restoring themselves from.
They are able to do this as long as they have a Soul.
The reasoning for them possessing Low-Godly is also almost the exact same as what Mahito currently has:
The only difference is that Spirits in Re: Zero have actually shown to materialize themselves from nothing, and are explicitly stated to be capable of controlling that capability of theirs. So it wouldn't even just be a 'possibly' rating.
There's no need to overcomplicate things. This is Low-Godly, plain and simply.
