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KNOCKOUT PHASE|VSBW AURA FARMING LEAGUE

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Ladies and Gentlemen, we reached Elimination Rounds of VAL

Previous Threads:

Group Stage was full of tension, drama, action. And this is how our characters finished in table
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Top 8 → directly to Round of 16
9–24 → playoffs (fight for Round of 16)
25–36 → eliminated

Knockout Stage Drawing:
9th/10th place play against 23rd/24th place (round of 16 opponents are 7th/8thplace).
11th/12th place play against 21st/22nd place (round of 16 opponents are 5th/6thplace).
13th/14th place play against 19th/20th place (round of 16 opponents are 3rd/4thplace).
15th/16th place play against 17th/18th place (round of 16 opponents are 1st/2ndplace).

Draw would be based on what will randomizer choose first. For example let's take example Set A where 9th and 10th character exist. If we take 9th first it will go to Silver Top(Left), and 10th to Blue Top. Same goes for 23rd/24th. If we get 23rd first it goes to Silver, and 24th to Blue. Meaning: 9th will face with 23rd and 24th with 10th.

To visualize let's use image of UEFA

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Left: Silver Top, Right: Blue Top. And same thing will be for 1/8(Where we pick first 8 to either Silver or Blue)




To get more information just watch this videos(14:00 to 17:00) from UCL(9:30 to 12:14)

Now for rules that should be discussed, with enough votes, suggestions, we can revise, extend, axe them

Goal(or Point) Requirements: More Aura Arguments:
Acceptable examples: Anos wins because he has "Did you really think" line which is aura or Makima wins because she can stare at opponent coldlessly like this(insert animanga moment), basically aura argument
Unacceptable examples(or simply comments that won't count as GOAL): Makima wins FRA, Anos wins cuz he has more aura or simply empty, no argument comments, specifically powerscaling is not allowed, repeating same argument(each new slightly different "argument" is GOAL only if it is valid)

Quantity/Quality Goals:
Mainly comes from this
We count any video, moment, or scene as one point unless you specify extra details or reasoning.For example, if you post “Doomslayer slayed a god”, it counts as +1.
However, if you elaborate—like “Doomslayer slayed a god who was the creator of existence, meaning he defeated the strongest being in the verse”—it may qualify for a higher point distribution due to added context

The same applies to videos: sending a 3-minute video with only a single statement still counts as +1, unless you explain how different moments, feats, or segments within it justify multiple points.

At the end of the day, it ends up being about who presents the feat better, not who simply sends more arguments or clips.
Now once we know, use this, there were ways to extend it generally. Due to knowing or lacking knowledge about certain character some of moments were given more points, while another ones were left just "+1". To prevent this; make respect thread or elaboration of individual. Example:

Instead of writing Dante won against Vergil

Extend it to something like that

Dante won against Vergil in DMC3;
- Who previously effortestly kicked his ass
  • One of the iconic DMC characters alongside with Dante
  • Main Antagonist of DMC3
  • Generally considered main villain of DMC3


So it would give you even more contribution than just "+2" from one statement. But do note: don't make full respect thread of one character, because we don't know how that is relevant to your player. Only note important parts or arguments that is relevant to original one.

In another hand @DavidTPPM gave us good critique; "If quantity alone enough, why user can't spam panels and arts to win match"

Which was basically whole Doctor Doom vs Dante match. Isn't it unfair if someone puts effort to "glaze" while other just puts cool art and gets same point? So my own suggestion would be

Any art/panel/moment drop without elaboration wouldn't be count as point general, unless you glaze that. For example: Dropping Klein Moretti Art means nothing, you had to give to it some glaze; "Look at his face, face" or whatever context

In another words @Eseseso you can't win points by complitation of "moments"

Tackling Moments

Glazing is one job, but can you cancel moments? Yes I assume.

One of the funniest moments in DMC match was my friend @Random-Helper323 glazing Dante vs Urizen first fight. And funniest thing about that was if you knew DMC5 you could cancel all that moments by telling "Didn't Dante get one-shot?". This is what we call "Tackling of Arguments". With this example alone you can prevent your opponent to outscore you "+n" points. This obviously doesn't give you advantage, but in race where you both fight, it is important to not only leading, but preventing your rival to dominate you.

Which is why there are two ways to cancel wanks;
1. Tackling existing argument
2. Bringing anti-feat or negative aura moment; it can extend from -1 to n score for opponent; But do note: slandering character would need knowledge to some degree of character, because defeating "anti-feat" would grant opponent not only cancelling "- points" but giving +2 advantage for each cancelling.

Knock-Out Itself

By default, all recovery and cooldown of reusing arguments is cancelled when KO starts. However we can rewrite it, if you want
1. Knock-Out itself in UCL usually goes in Two Sets; Two Matches are played until Final itself, and winner is decided by Aggregate Score; This can bring some "comeback" tension, but well we might settle some "recovery rules" for this
2. Matches are decided in one set. Meaning; No Away and Home matches, if you lose you are eliminated from tournament, this would speedrun tournament, and we can just unrestict whole "cooldown, recovery arguments" to keep up tensions in every match.


What about Appelation?
If individuals think match was unfairly judged, or were biased, they can give appelation. In that case match will be replayed under another judge.


Btw all rules, and everything can be discussed there. So you guys give ideas, proposals, we together will decide. Obviously some of users will like some idea, while others dislike it.

Most Important Part:
We will make draw now with my right hand LARPGpt;

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Bracket A
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Alucard plays against Akainu in Silver Slot; Winner faces Kevin Kaslana
Doctor plays against Reinhard in Blue Slot; Winner faces Doomslayer
 
Bracket B
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Lucilius plays against Jin Woo in
Silver Slot; Winner faces Cid Kagenou
Ryuga plays against Rover in
Blue Slot; Winner faces Klein Moretti
 
2. Matches are decided in one set. Meaning; No Away and Home matches, if you lose you are eliminated from tournament, this would speedrun tournament, and we can just unrestict whole "cooldown, recovery arguments" to keep up tensions in every match.
So everything refreshes every match?
 
Final Bracket
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Doctor Doom plays against Chris Redfield in
Silver Slot; Winner faces Aizen Sosuke
Galbrena plays against Wesker in
Blue Slot; Winner faces Jin Kazama
 
Bracket B
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Lucilius plays against Jin Woo in
Silver Slot; Winner faces Cid Kagenou
Ryuga plays against Rover in
Blue Slot; Winner faces Klein Moretti
Plunging when he realizes he left AFK character(Rover) arsenal to stomp Ryuga:
 
Ye bc you won, i didnt bother to announce all matches were finished before yesterday
I see, I assume it was mere points for that or how much it was?

Also just so I understand better, repeated arguments are allowed or not like done so far or you gotta change it a little bit
 
repeated arguments are allowed or not like done so far or you gotta change it a little bit
Knock-Out Itself
By default, all recovery and cooldown of reusing arguments is cancelled when KO starts. However we can rewrite it, if you want
1. Knock-Out itself in UCL usually goes in Two Sets; Two Matches are played until Final itself, and winner is decided by Aggregate Score; This can bring some "comeback" tension, but well we might settle some "recovery rules" for this
2. Matches are decided in one set. Meaning; No Away and Home matches, if you lose you are eliminated from tournament, this would speedrun tournament, and we can just unrestict whole "cooldown, recovery arguments" to keep up tensions in every match.
It is up to votes what prefers players here
 
It is up to votes what prefers players here
Some characters will face heavy hitters, which will burn from your material available, on my end at least I will face either Jotaro or Sephiroth eventually and then from the league above, I see either The Doctor, Doomslayer, the Rezero dude and Ryuga potentially, let alone who wins the left side

Imo it should be fair to be allowed, at least I tried to changed them a bit on my end and add more stuff to them, some wont have enough material eventually if it wasnt, so yeah thats my take, most may not even need repeats due to their sheer content, but others....
 
I really thought either Kratos or Dante would be the biggest obstacle in the beginning
Dante is still big threat

Planck and Pepsiman prolly were busy with wanking GoW threads so they became AFK after few matches. Let's see if they will come
 
Throughout this tournament, many characters have been allowed crossovers or different, non-canon continuities. All these characters are positioned at different places and times going through different stories, not what’s canon to their version’s story. Even variants of the same character that have went through different events are allowed.

Examples:

Dante - Shin Megami Tensei Crossover (non-canon), PGR Collab (non-canon to DMC), Netflix seems to be allowed (non-canon, not the same iteration of the character).
Sephiroth - Smash Bros (non-canon), with the current ruleset Kingdom Hearts could be allowed (non-canon).
Doomslayer - Doom Novels (non-canon).

Furthermore, many characters have reinterpretations or remakes of the same canon that can be used under the current ruleset.

Jotaro - Part 3 Anime OVA, Part 3 to 6 Anime, Part 3 to 6 Manga. (Minorly separate continuity / reimagining)
Klein - Light Novel, Manga and Anime.
Aizen - Manga, Anime and Light Novel.

IF we’re going off of purely canon events then a lot of these crossovers, and even non-canon variants should not be allowed. Several characters are not the same iterations of events and these events are not canon to their overall storylines. But so far off of the rules, we haven’t been going off of pure canon. Crossovers are allowed, etc.

So I ask for clarification and a full measured ruling: Are we allowing crossovers and non-canon events / versions / continuities of a character, or are we banning them all entirely?

If this tournament is about purely what’s canon to a character, then I request:
  • You can’t reuse the same canon events twice. Of course, if a ‘light novel’ covers a description you can use the manga’s images to back up that description, but you shouldn’t be able to repeat them to effectively double your points.
  • You can’t cover crossovers or events that aren’t canon to the version of the character you’re using.

For example:
You can’t use Jotaro beating DIO in the manga and recent Part 3 anime. You have to pick the one you think has the most aura and stick with it for the part of the continuity you’re using.
You can’t reuse the same Aizen or Klein events by differentiating between ‘Anime Aizen / Klein’ beating Ichigo / Character here and ‘Manga Klein / Aizen’ beating Ichigo / Character here.

If this tournament is purely about a character’s likeness and their aura, then I request:
- You can fully use non-canon events, reinterpretations of the character and crossovers.

Examples:
Dante - Devil May Cry (2013) - A separate now non-canon continuity where Dante has an entirely different appearance.
Darth Vader - Star Wars Legends Continuity - Now deemed non-canon by Disney.
Khaslana - A variant of Kevin Kaslana, sharing both the same namesake and mostly the same appearance.
Other characters likely fit this same criteria.
 
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Jin Kazama - Tekken Bloodline, which is non-canon but allowed under this current ruleset. (Separate continuity from modern Tekken)
For your information the Netflix anime is accepted as canon and the heads of the series at the time accept stuff from it as part of the canon among others

And if your source is its fandom wiki, 99% they dont care to put effort like here regarding that
 
For your information the Netflix anime is accepted as canon and the heads of the series at the time accept stuff from it as part of the canon among others

And if your source is its fandom wiki, 99% they dont care to put effort like here regarding that

It's generally just from what I know of the Netflix anime. Vergil gets his sword from Mundus. The American Military certainly isn't a threat in DMC 5. There's 100% more. Completely different from DMC 5. It's a different continuity but I don't want to argue about it.
 
It's generally just from what I know of the Netflix anime. Vergil gets his sword from Mundus, for example. Completely different from DMC 5. It's a different continuity but I don't want to argue about it.
Netflix DMC is obviously a different canon, but I am not talking about that, I am talking of Netflix Tekken, which isnt non canon as you claimed
 
Netflix DMC is obviously a different canon, but I am not talking about that, I am talking of Netflix Tekken, which isnt non canon as you claimed
Oh, my bad. That was just general googling.

I've heard it's canon to Tekken 3 but not the later / more modern Tekkens. Is it just canon to all of them then?
 
Oh, my bad. That was just general googling.

I've heard it's canon to Tekken 3 but not the later / more modern Tekkens. Is it just canon to all of them then?
Nowhere it says its canon to just 1 game and non canon to the rest, all 8 main games are canon, anime just tells the story of 3rd game, while also adding its own original stuff, which heads of the series loved so much they wanted them used as part of the official setting
 
I could solo this thread if i was the participant. Right @Grabbing_dragon ? (Holding your Trinity Seven thread a hostage)
Yeah, you would indeed. You are the supreme, ultimate, almighty, and unparalleled aura farmer beyond all aura farmers, who are finite and possess only limited aura, as you yourself are already the very concept of endlessly generating aura. Even merely holding my Trinity Seven thread hostage radiates aura itself. Any glaze, action, talk, word, etc. everything you do and everything you are embodies the purest quality of aurafarming in its prototypical form, from which all aura originates.
 
Also for the record, I think point use should be completely reset into the KOs (it was communicated that this'd be what happens), but we keep the rule that you can't use the same arguments two matches in a row, like the group bracket.
 
If this tournament is about purely what’s canon to a character, then I request:
  • You can’t reuse the same canon events twice. Of course, if a ‘light novel’ covers a description you can use the manga’s images to back up that description, but you shouldn’t be able to repeat them to effectively double your points.
  • You can’t cover crossovers or events that aren’t canon to the version of the character you’re using.

For example:
You can’t use Jotaro beating DIO in the manga and recent Part 3 anime. You have to pick the one you think has the most aura and stick with it for the part of the continuity you’re using.
You can’t reuse the same Aizen or Klein events by differentiating between ‘Anime Aizen / Klein’ beating Ichigo / Character here and ‘Manga Klein / Aizen’ beating Ichigo / Character here.
I respect this option the most tbh.
 
Throughout this tournament, many characters have been allowed crossovers or different, non-canon continuities. All these characters are positioned at different places and times going through different stories, not what’s canon to their version’s story. Even variants of the same character that have went through different events are allowed.

Examples:

Dante - Shin Megami Tensei Crossover (non-canon), PGR Collab (non-canon to DMC), Netflix seems to be allowed (non-canon, not the same iteration of the character).
Sephiroth - Smash Bros (non-canon), with the current ruleset Kingdom Hearts could be allowed (non-canon).
Doomslayer - Doom Novels (non-canon).

Furthermore, many characters have reinterpretations or remakes of the same canon that can be used under the current ruleset.

Jotaro - Part 3 Anime OVA, Part 3 to 6 Anime, Part 3 to 6 Manga. (Minorly separate continuity / reimagining)
Klein - Light Novel, Manga and Anime.
Aizen - Manga, Anime and Light Novel.

IF we’re going off of purely canon events then a lot of these crossovers, and even non-canon variants should not be allowed. Several characters are not the same iterations of events and these events are not canon to their overall storylines. But so far off of the rules, we haven’t been going off of pure canon. Crossovers are allowed, etc.

So I ask for clarification and a full measured ruling: Are we allowing crossovers and non-canon events / versions / continuities of a character, or are we banning them all entirely?

If this tournament is about purely what’s canon to a character, then I request:
  • You can’t reuse the same canon events twice. Of course, if a ‘light novel’ covers a description you can use the manga’s images to back up that description, but you shouldn’t be able to repeat them to effectively double your points.
  • You can’t cover crossovers or events that aren’t canon to the version of the character you’re using.

For example:
You can’t use Jotaro beating DIO in the manga and recent Part 3 anime. You have to pick the one you think has the most aura and stick with it for the part of the continuity you’re using.
You can’t reuse the same Aizen or Klein events by differentiating between ‘Anime Aizen / Klein’ beating Ichigo / Character here and ‘Manga Klein / Aizen’ beating Ichigo / Character here.

If this tournament is purely about a character’s likeness and their aura, then I request:
- You can fully use non-canon events, reinterpretations of the character and crossovers.

Examples:
Dante - Devil May Cry (2013) - A separate now non-canon continuity where Dante has an entirely different appearance.
Darth Vader - Star Wars Legends Continuity - Now deemed non-canon by Disney.
Khaslana - A variant of Kevin Kaslana, sharing both the same namesake and mostly the same appearance.
Other characters likely fit this same criteria.
sure
 
You can’t reuse the same Aizen or Klein events by differentiating between ‘Anime Aizen / Klein’ beating Ichigo / Character here and ‘Manga Klein / Aizen’ beating Ichigo / Character here.
So they be used like if they are completely different like here shadow in manga says "How ugly, how unsightly. You call that ‘supreme’? You cheapen the word."
with the pose being different than in the anime, where he says, “There is no road for almightiness for those using borrowed strength, none” while holding his leg in the air and then kicking it to the ground etc, whereas in the manga he had a sword pose.
 
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So they be used like if they are completely different like here shadow in manga says "How ugly, how unsightly. You call that ‘supreme’? You cheapen the word."
with the pose being different than in the anime, where he says, “There is no road for almightiness for those using borrowed strength, none” while holding his leg in the air and then kicking it to the ground etc, whereas in the manga he had a sword pose.
Yes, I believe if we're going purely off of canon, you should have to pick one out of the two because these are slightly different alterations of the same overall canon event. You can use each other's stuff to support the other's material if they overlap.

Just to remind though, this is only a proposal. It depends if people want to go off of canon or likeness and aura. I do think one of these options should be picked given the current tournament rules.
 
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