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I used an average of 1000 km for LEO, 18,900 km for MEO and obviously 35,700 km for GEO.
Also, the average time to blink is 0.3 seconds. May i ask why you used 1 second as a timeframe?
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Also, the average time to blink is 0.3 seconds. May i ask why you used 1 second as a timeframe?
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It's more accurate to also account for how many Satellites are LEO, MEO or GEO with the procentages giving in the site https://aerospace.csis.org/aerospace101/earth-orbit-101/
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Arc7Kuroi/Cien's_Cero -old accepted calc
Pretty sure VSBW almost never allows 0.3 seconds for "in the blink of an eye", you'd have far better luck with using 1 second
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【虚閃】大虚が口から放つ、滅びの光線のこと。
It is literally described as a ray.
"flash of light"
"―というか今、誰かどさくさに紛れて弾って
ペッシェのツッコミは、最後まで口に出す事は疎か、頭の中で言い切る事すらできず、閃光と砂塵の中に掻き消された。"
They are described as beams or flashes of light in more than one situation
to deny that they are traveling at the speed of light is to act in bad faith
Humans can blink in 0.4 to 0.1 seconds. Yes, they can blink in 100 milliseconds.
An average person can blink in 100 milliseconds. What's the problem with that?
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I am pretty sure there is the title card statement of Senjumaru's reiatsu travelling from the soul king palace to the soul society and human world. So that could easily be FTL for the top tiers. The satellite feat with Arc's accepted end would be good for anyone who scales to or above Fullbring arc Kenpachi which includes Unohana ig.
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The problem with this is Muken has no accepted size. People know its huge af but its infinite size statement is not accepted here from what I know. The time frame could be an issue from what I read here. Aizen has been sealed in the Muken for some time now, he could have been filling it up with his reiatsu since the time he was imprisoned. The senjumaru feat is more clear cut as we know it happened after she activated bankai and we know it spread across two realms which is accepted as separate universes and we also see the effects of her reiatsu hitting all the realms pretty quickly.Or Aizen filling Muken with his own spiritual energy
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If you go back to the text, you'll see that it indicated that he did this during the meeting, because, literally, in order to activate his power, he had to unleash his spiritual power.
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So Menos Grande's Cero is as fast as Cien's Cero right?
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so why do you think his bankai which is a combination of his hollow and quincy prowess stacked on his shinigami wouldn't grant him that ability.
we have literally never seen his bankai power before what are you talking about? this is like using renji's fake bankai to say his real bankai shouldn't have the amount of abilities it does.
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cero are fixed
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That scan does NOT necessitate Ceros having a fixed speed; that's a significant leap in logic. It wouldn't make sense in the series either.
If you want to get solid Bleach speed scaling, start with Mayuri perception blitzing Uryu, who has a canonical perception time minimum.
If you want to get solid Bleach speed scaling, start with Mayuri perception blitzing Uryu, who has a canonical perception time minimum.
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There is also ulquioura perception blitzing uryu too.
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His Quincy and Hollow abiliites will remain Quincy and Hollow abilities. He has never shown any different.
What are you're talking about? Ichigo's shikai ability is to absorbed energy into his blade and shoot from it. His bankai just increase his speed, strength, and durability. A fake Bankai is still a fake bankai. Renji's Bankai look different but powers are similar, fire, explosion.
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Bruh.
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If the cero remains the same even as you get stronger, why would its speed increase?
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Shunsui thinking Stark was going to fire a ordinary Cero doesn't imply all Ceros are fixed at the same strength or speed
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The databook states the sword extends at 500 x his clapping speed. It does not state his sword extends 13 km in the time it takes Gin to clap. This isn't the way to save the verses speed scaling
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The databook said it extended 13km splitting the skyscrapers instantly. Then we also see him extended it again across the town and retract mid combat while fighting ichigo. So yeah it would be referring to the maximum length. Tho it might get dismissed as a outlier. Since even lowballing it's around sub relativite
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That would just give the hogyoku higher levels of fate hax. Yes the kotosu would have fate manipulation since it can send you to different timeline
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yh u can use that to derive a timeframe
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If we use the speed of a clap it comes out at massively hyper sonic(faster then lightning downward stroke). Then times it by 500 it comes out at relativistc. However since gin lied it's probably a bit slower then that putting it at around sub relativistc
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but thats does not change the speed scaling
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Soulking22334
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its spacetime manipulation resistance
Soulking22334
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yhwach should scale higher
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Gins not saying his bankai travels 13 km in the time it takes for him to clap though, so the best ur going to get by doing it this way is using a second for "instant".
Gang it's physically impossible for Ceros to be a fixed speed
1st arc Ichigo reacts to a Gillians Cero. Gentei Kaijo Byakuya murder blitzes that Ichigo. Now make him 5 x faster without the nerf and in the SS arc Ichigo is now = to him base to base, and then add a 5-10 speed amp for Bankai
So ur telling me they're struggling with 1st arc attacks when they've gotten 25 x faster? Also just keep adding feats or stack hollowfication and you get them being 100+ x faster then that Ichigo who could react to a Gillians Cero, and mind you Ceros stay relavent speed wise up to the near end of the FKT arc
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i dont understand the chainscaling here ,There are too many inconsistencies to make this work perfectly here
This still doesn't explain why light rays and flashes of light must be slower than light itself.
As we saw with Stark, the normal cero remains unchanged even if you increase your power
I have no reason to believe that it’s getting faster, especially since it’s considered a benchmark for measuring what’s faster than it.
"Starting with the bala that arrived at 20x the speed of a cero, more than fifty lights gouging the desert one after another.'
Why is cero used as a unit of measurement if its speed is inconsistent?
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Neither length nor the 500x are considered as true anymore, so nothing about Gin's bankai is usable anymore (outside of Buto ig)
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Buto's statement is completly separate from everything Gin claimed about his Bankai so it should be fine.
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Aaroniero didn't dodge light itself. He just had to be faster than the falling rubble which was blocking the light, before the hole was completely opened.
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Technically, we don't know if he actually perception blitzed him, but based on scaling he's more than capable. Uryu confirmed he couldn't see Mayuri's Shunpo though. Who does calcs here? I've seen a calculation on that feat but I'm not 100% sure if it's valid. Should I post it anyways?
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Because a Bala from the same Aarrancar is 20 times faster than his own Cero, which is a stream of reiatsu so it's power and speed should depend on reiatsu level, which is consistent with stronger Arrancars hitting faster opponents.
The palace is far enough it can't be seen from the Seireitei for starters.
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Funny enough, in the All but black book, this was said:
„在天之上，
在星之上
然后，独自追望更高的境界“
Which should translate to something like
„Above the heavens, above the stars, and then, alone, pursuing an even higher realm“
Is it a concrete statement for a distance? Probably not but i take this over a 50-80km distance proposal any day of the week.
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You didn't answer my question , why did cero remain the same even as Stark grew stronger?
Soulking22334
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if we use ichibe's 1000 ri speed feat
9h 15m = 33,300 s
Distance = Speed × Time
3927 km x 33,300 s = 130,769,100 kilometers
PizzaDante67
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Wouldnt that be calc stacking?
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