Re:Zero Od CM type 1 shenanigans

[TheGreatJedi13]

Od is more like a unified system of all those as a whole, but I can see what you are pointing at. But yeah just like what Cipher said
being generous best I can see is cm type 3 if we assume Od is a unified verse specific thing of their mana, soul, mind, body/manifestation

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Pretty much agree with everyone else here, I would be fine with CM3 though.

 

[Vietthai96]

DB wanker one

I promises i'm gonna find your house address

Also can you ping some other mods that are willing to evaluate ?

@Reiner04 @Reiner04 @Reiner04 @Reiner04

@ActuallySpaceMan42 @Random-Helper323 @TWILIGHT-OP

 

[Hecky2222]

I promises i'm gonna find your house address

I will be eagerly waiting you

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

I promises i'm gonna find your house address



@Reiner04 @Reiner04 @Reiner04 @Reiner04

@ActuallySpaceMan42 @Random-Helper323 @TWILIGHT-OP

You forgot @BreezeHM, since all other wankers opnions are irrelevant.

 

[Vietthai96]

You forgot @BreezeHM, since all other wankers opnions are irrelevant

@BreezeHM

 

[Cipher72]

@Reiner04 @Reiner04 @Reiner04 @Reiner04

Damm wanker multiplied, one was already annoying enough.

 

[Reiner04]

Damm wanker multiplied, one was already annoying enough.

I am not Breeze!

 

[Reiner04]

Specify, there are a lot of femboys here

I think he meant you.

 

[Vietthai96]

I am not Breeze!

So Breeze and not-Breeze?. Damn, this shit reach nondual level, absolute threat to the community

 

[Mr._East_Statement]

I promises i'm gonna find your house address

Viet is the embodiment of "if we want, we can."

Thanks to Viet, I learned we can achieve what we want if we try really hard such as wanking DB.

 

[SuperNova55555]

I think he meant you.

I am the femboy harem owner actually

 

[Hecky2222]

I think he meant you.

Why I even need LoTM femboys?

 

[Cipher72]

I am not Breeze!

@Reiner04
Sure you aren't,
Anyways thoughts on the thread, if you can think that is

 

[Mr._East_Statement]

I am the femboy harem owner actually

We have a Great Chain of Femboy here, in which you might govern the reality of baseline femboys, but are nonetheless subjected to a greater force that grounds your own femboism.

 

[BonjourGnome]

This will derail the topic; it's unnecessary.

I guess when everyone start talking about femboys, it becomes necessary

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

@SatellaTheWoE
Maybe add these to the OP?
Defined one's existence

The Memories eaten by Gluttony did not remain extant within the person concerned, the Names eaten by Gluttony did not remain extant within other people. That was because the Authority tore them off from the soul, which defined one’s existence in the world.

The proper cleansing of the soul by Od Lagna, which was practiced in the Hall of Memories―― acting as its agent of its own accord, the Authority of Gluttony would usurp it in stealth.

Therefore, the Memories and Names snavelled by Gluttony did not remain present within anyone.

Restrictively, though there had been ones who had only Memories or only Names stolen away, respective negative effects got applied.

If the Memories were stolen then said person, if the Name was stolen then other people, could no longer remember the person concerned. That could not be altered as long as the disposition of the soul remained within the protection of Od Lagna.

Yet, Natsuki Subaru did remember.

Did remember the ingredient, the soul which had been rendered naked, having Memories and Name both stolen. –Volume 25, Chapter 3

"Depth of a being"

――That what was termed as Synesthesia, operated via the Ods of two differing individuals being connected.

What was termed as the Od, was the source of power existing in the depths of a human being―― it could also be synonymous for the soul.

Though on instances it was also used in place of Mana as power for utilizing magic, originally, the Od was the pure property itself that made a human, human.

The consequence of having a domain that could not be trespassed by anyone, linking those born of the same womb mutually, perhaps resulted in Synesthesia, so propounded theory.

In the end, it came to be determined as folklore, and was not something that had been proven.

However, since it had been left in the Forbidden Library, it surely was not some phony spiel either. Above all else, Ram personally had taken a liking to that theory.

To have one’s own self and someone else be connected together by birth, was a lovely thing. –Volume 25, Chapter 7

"Root of self" and "essence"

Abel: “――As I stated. The Soul Marriage Technique involves ceding a portion of one’s soul to another. By soul, that would be the very root of one’s self, the Od.”

Al: “Ceding… Od.”

Ruminating on the words, Al’s voice trembled at the realization.

Od was, as Abel had stated, the root of one’s being―― the center of not only the body, but also the more spiritual part of the being, the origin of one’s Mana.

In this world, it was often treated as it was the same as the soul. So, perhaps the Soul Marriage Technique could also be called the Od Marriage Technique. Although Subaru wasn’t too sure of this.

Subaru: “But why do souls become stronger when they’re joined together?”

Abel: “A similar example would be the relationship between a Spiritual Arts User and a Spirit. By entering into a contractual relationship, User and Spirit connect to each other’s essence. Thus, those connected can be said to draw power from one another. Physical separation has nothing to do with it. This ought to ring a bell.” –Volume 29, Chapter 3

And whatever this is

Soul aflame, life fading to ash, his very destiny was on the cusp of its terminus.

All were engulfed in the blaze, and as Rowan’s self was blurring into the realm after death, he entered into a domain untread by living and undead both―― the interval between life and death, the point that ought to be called the beyond.

That was tantamount to uncovering the very nature, the true essence, of life and the soul.

A few more seconds, real as they might be, the final significance of Rowan Segmunt’s existence would overflow. –Arc 8, Chapter 64

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Now we gotta ask the true question, is having a bunch of femboys love you a "harem" or a "reverse harem"?

 

[Mbpoops]

Agree with the femboys and cipher

 

[Hecky2222]

Agree with the femboys

Bro agrees with himself

 

[Crimsonobu]

I'm not that knowledge on concepts so if this is passed through what does it entail?

 

[Cipher72]

I'm not that knowledge on concepts so if this is passed through what does it entail?

CM-3 for the Od (Soul) and anyone that has soul manipulation would also get CM-3 and resistance asw.

Od gets Type 1 CM
Spirit Physiology page gets updated
Characters who can manipulate souls or mind get CM type 1 manipulation
Characters who resist soul or mind manipulation get resistance to CM type 1 manipulation:

 

[HenshinIntervention]

I agree that this isn't really type 1 concept material, it doesn't necessarily fit all the requirements (one of them isn't highlighted in the OP) and could be fulfilled by other Metaphysical stuff like Souls.

I guess I wouldn't be opposed to CM3 (?) but I think archiving it as similar to a Soul fits better.

 

[Phoenks]

Hey so, in Re: Zero, it's made pretty explicitly clear that if you alter the body, you also alter the soul.

"If the soul changes, the exterior follows suit. The converse is also true."

This means that it is impossible for the soul/Od to be an independent concept. It is not independent from the form (the exterior/body) it is claimed to have authority over. Since it changes when the body changes.

This is like if you changed a circle in reality and the Platonic Form of Circle was altered because of it.

At best, you would be able to get Type 2 concept for this verse. However, nothing outside of Type 3 seems supported at the moment.

 

[Crimsonobu]

CM-3 for the Od (Soul) and anyone that has soul manipulation would also get CM-3 and resistance asw.

Thank you!

 

[Hecky2222]

Bro when VSBW finally stops wanking every soul manipulation to concept cuz it is "essence"

@BestMGQScalerEver save vsbw from metaphysics larpers

 

[Vietthai96]

@SatellaTheWoE
Maybe add these to the OP?
Defined one's existence

"Depth of a being"

"Root of self" and "essence"


And whatever this is

I could see Od being Concept type 3 from this

 

[Zabazab]

"If the soul changes, the exterior follows suit. The converse is also true."

I posted this like 60 messages ago!

 

[Mbpoops]

I could see Od being Concept type 3 from this

Is your pfp ai

 

[Hecky2222]

I could see Od being Concept type 3 from this

Femboy changed his pfp

 

[Vietthai96]

Is your pfp ai

yeah

 

[RaikiKurohane99]

I agree with most others on this. Type 1 is out of question and type 2 isn't really being suggested either.

It gives the feeling of "everyone has this as a personal concept".

 

[VortechsTG]

Hoyo was nuked for less

Hoyo still needs to be nuked more, man

 

[VortechsTG]

A concept doesn't have to govern universal reality in other to be type 1 or 2. "Reality" in the definition is all the particulars that participate in it even if there is only one of that thing at the moment. Defining an individual existence alone doesn't make it a personal concept however, I'm not really seeing anything that make Od a concept here

See, but there are cases where characters create multiple bodies based on their souls and affecting the soul of one of them then affects all of them.

I don't know if it qualifies as concept manipualtion but what you're describing sounds exactly like what Od does.

 

[Mbpoops]

Hoyo still needs to be nuked more, man

Then nuke it

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Hoyo still needs to be nuked more, man

Yall only have permission for Genshin

 

[BreezeHM]

@BreezeHM

I am not Breeze!

So Breeze and not-Breeze?. Damn, this shit reach nondual level, absolute threat to the community

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

So we're gonna go with Reiner 1 and 2 instead?

 

[BreezeHM]

So we're gonna go with Reiner 1 and 2 instead?

Reiner is a fraud, erase him.

 

[Crimsonobu]

Yall only have permission for Genshin

Who is the big boss you need permission from crying