yea? the point is that sukuna couldn't kill them without contact, not that they can "tank" dismantles
That'd still be a downscale which is the same for Gojo and cleaves.
the first cleave sliced his neck, cleave does hefty damage to gojo, him surviving an instance isn't concrete enough to say he "tanks" them, i obviously do agree that he took less damage than other characters, who would have been obliterated before they even considered using RCT
sukuna isn't >2.5x gojo yet he can consistently survive reds and purples, which is also enough to obliterate everyone else
so while i agree they can survive eachothers strongest attacks, they are very clearly below it considerably
He doesn't tank them that's true. He'd still downscale to them as he actually takes MULTIPLE of them without any massive deadly injuries, when Sukuna took red it was only a part of it and it did alot of damage, black flash knocked him out cold immediately and purple left him in a near death condition. Gojo took those cleaves and was completely fine as the cuts werent strong enough to cut him deep enough, it cuts him, even on the neck yes as I showed:
Gojo did indeed get his neck cut MULTIPLE TIMES during the sequence of him not using RCT. He simply took it without dying because the cuts aren't as deep due to how durable he is:
The cuts were just never that deep (Even the beginning one) because Gojo
IS that durable so Sukuna needs constant cleaves non-stop for a decent period of time to actually kill him.
We see the fact that singular cuts by themselves and even multiple of them aren't deep enough to do any actual fatal damage to him, Sukuna would need to make Gojo be exposed to Malevolent Shrine for a decent amount of time before he actually takes too much damage and dies but again that's like if you scale to a punch that is stronger than you yes but you can take it to the face but it still makes you have a nosebleed so it still damages you, if that same punch gets repeated on every inch of your body non-stop you will eventually die as well.
they are both more durable than their own AP
sukuna even with amplification cannot defeat gojo, and since he couldn't use his domain his only wincon was a way to bypass limitless that isn't amplification
he... cant.. we are told sukuna cannot beat gojo with just amplification
So Sukuna is more durable than his own cleaves? Cause that's still his AP and if so you just agreed with my point (but went a bit overboard cause I dont think he is = or > his dismantles), how are you even telling me Gojo's strength doesn't scale to Sukuna's durability and vice versa lol? They both get damaged, are scared of eachother's physical strikes, and clash with each other in strength:
They'd both have no need for any of this if they were just way more durable than their own physical strength.
if sukuna physically scales to cleave, why even bother use his technique ?
It's a
downscale. Sukuna's cleaves are still stronger than if he punches you obviously, we see that Sukuna's punches don't pierce through Gojo at all, BUT they still downscale to the potency that cleaves output physically, it isn't significant enough for them to be below it's output by that much even if they are weaker.
The reason it still makes the Ryu thing inconsistent is because Ryu is a WHOLE ONE TAP TIER below SINGULAR regular cleaves so even if you don't think Sukuna's physicals is a one shot tier above Ryu, it'd be pretty damn close considering regular cleaves are.
