Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Anonymous_Learner]

Wait for his profile to update properly.

de mate, that yap about black flashes sticking i made wasn't judt words. i plan to personally make a crt for it
Look out world, The Yuji agenda is on it's way

 

[BiggestOpp]

u cannot "tank" a WCS

Sukuna cannot shoot a net of WCS.

 

[BiggestOpp]

It’s pretty obvious Kashimo got waffled by a WCS net, Sukunas strongest normal dismantles could never achieve that output, even Domain ones.

Sukuna’s normal dismantles can literally cut through skyscrapers.
He can also fire off a series of dismantle at once. He cannot do that with WCS

 

[Sus]

Sukuna cannot shoot a net of WCS.

where was this stated? do you really think MBA is less durable than yuta, kusakabe and higuruma ?

 

[LIGHTYW]

Sukuna’s normal dismantles can literally cut through skyscrapers.
He can also fire off a series of dismantle at once. He cannot do that with WCS

HEADCANNON. BIGGESTNONREADER!!!!!!

 

[Zabazab]

where was this stated? do you really think MBA is less durable than yuta, kusakabe and higuruma ?

For Yuta, yes. And Kusakabe and Higuruma were protected with Simple Domain.

MBA Kashimo died to Regular Dismantle, that's part of why it's hilarious when people glaze him.

 

[Sus]

genuine cope
gege: let me draw this dismantle like a WCS, but never do it again!

 

[Zabazab]

Dismantle, when actually drawn, does not look different between the world-cutting Dismantle and regular Dismantle. You made that up.

And no Sukuna cannot perform a net-shaped world-cutting Dismantle. He has to direct the Dismantle with his palm. And he also has to chant before he can cast the technique, which he did not do when he killed Kashimo.

Kashimo isn't even top 10 even with his suicide technique and that's okay.

 

[Sus]

we didn't even see sukuna performing it, but whatever

i don't like kashimo enough to defend him, thats lights' job

 

[Zabazab]

we didn't even see sukuna performing it

You mean the necessary chant? Yeah. That's why we know it wasn't a World-Cutting Dismantle. I really have no idea how anyone could even consider the possibility of the attack that killed Kashimo as being a World-Cutting Dismantle unless they just skipped the chapter explaining Sukuna's Binding Vow.

 

[LIGHTYW]

For Yuta, yes. And Kusakabe and Higuruma were protected with Simple Domain.

MBA Kashimo died to Regular Dismantle,

YOU JUST CANT READ BRO. A WEAKER SUKUNA, GETTING HIS OUTPUT LOWERED AND BODY CONTROL LITERALLY DULLED, CONSTANTLY USING HIS ALREADY LOWERED OUTPUT TO KEEP HWB STILL SENT DISMANTLES (FROM A BIGGER DISTANCE) THAT WERE FATAL TO YUJI AND DOMAIN AMPED YUTA, AS BOTH ARE CANONICALLY RELATIVE IN DURABILITY. AND IT BEING A REGULAR DISMANTLE IS HEADCANON. BRO.

SUKUNA BOOSTED HIS OUTPUT AGAINST KASHIMO WITH HANDSIGNS, KASHIMO WAS CLOSER TO IT AND THE OUTPUT ON IT WAS OBVIOUSLY GREATER. (AND AGAIN, A STRONGER SUKUNA.)

ANYONE WITH A BRAIN CAN SEE THE CLEAR DIFFERENCE IN BOTH TECHNIQUE AND OUTPUT, KASHIMO REMAINS THE GOAT.

that's part of why it's hilarious when people glaze him.

HILARIOUS IS YOUR LOW IQ BRO. KASHIMO IS THE GOAT . LOOK AT SUKUNA HIMSELF GLAZING KASHIMO, IS THE STRONGEST SORCERER OAT SAYING THOSE THINGS HILARIOUS TOO? OR YOU JUST CANT READ THE MANGA?

(CRAZY HOW JUST AFTER RECOGNIZING KASHIMO'S STRENGTH AND SEEING THAT HE DODGED AND SURVIVED WCS WITHOUTH EVEN KNOWING IT WAS A WCS, SUKUNA STILL THINKS HE NEEDS TO USE KAMUTOKE AS A SMOKE-SCREEN IN ORDER TO SNEAK ON KASHIMO, AND HE STILL FAILED BTW, TRULY A GOAT . MEANWHILE SUKUNA AGAINST THE OTHERS ((INCLUDING PRE-AWAK YUJI, WHO'S RELATIVE OR MAYBE EVEN FASTER THAN DOMAIN AMPED YUTA)) AND MUCH LESS INTERESTED BLITZED EVERYONE WITH STRAIGHT SPEED ON CHAP 246. DIFFERENT LEVELS.)

("WE ARE LOVED SIMPLY BECAUSE WE ARE STRONG".., "YOU ASKED ME HOW I CREATE BONDS OR SHOW AFFECTION FOR OTHERS.. IF THIS ISNT KINDNESS AND AFFECTION..") READ THE MANGA BEFORE SAYING A WORD ABOUT THE TRUE GOAT.

 

[Sus]

yutas face when sukuna made a handsign bro was pissing himselff

 

[Arkenis]

Yall and these grainy ass leak night damn panels. Did yall not read the manga regularly??

 

[Sus]

Yall and these grainy ass leak night damn panels. Did yall not read the manga regularly??

real fans don't even read in the first place

 

[LIGHTYW]

AGAIN, SUKUNA RECOGNIZING KASHIMO'S STRENGTH AND EVEN PUTTING HIM ON THE SAME PLATE AS GOJO. GOATED, STRONG AND HANDSOME.

 

[LIGHTYW]

we didn't even see sukuna performing it, but whatever

i don't like kashimo enough to defend him, thats lights' job

YOU SHOULD DEFEND HIM BRO. WAIT TILL HIS FIGHTS GETS ANIMATED AND YALL WILL SEE THE TRUE GOAT AND MBA'S FULL POTENTIAL.

 

[LIGHTYW]

AGAIN, SINCE YALL WANT TO DOWNPLAY THE GOAT, LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE. YOU CANT COMPARE THEM BRO.

LIKE, APPLES AND ORANGES. APPLES AND ORANGES.

 

[Arkenis]

AGAIN, SUKUNA RECOGNIZING KASHIMO'S STRENGTH AND EVEN PUTTING HIM ON THE SAME PLATE AS GOJO. GOATED, STRONG AND HANDSOME.

That's the wrong translation. Here's the volume release

 

[LIGHTYW]

AND I WONT STOP HERE BRO. BESIDES THE OFFICIAL VOLUME ARKENIS JUST DROPPED LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE MY GUY.

AGAIN, SUKUNA PUTS KASHIMO AT ANOTHER LEVEL BY INSTANTLY COMPARING HIM WITH GOJO AND EVEN SAYS HE WILL TEACH KASHIMO.

 

[Nonynho]

(MBA vs 16F Yujikuna) should produce the same result as canon?

 

[Zabazab]

Yeah pretty much.

 

[eibwen]

This is super redundant at this point but can anyone remind me what suggest that curse naoya is faster than normal naoya? we can like see human naoya has not been caught by maki at all until the very end of the fight (on a technical manner cuz she can read CT now) while curse naoya is only faster than pre awakened maki at top speed. Even then maki states that toji would be able to react to it anyway. I've also seen people says stuff about action per second but no one seems to know how big of an action can it be, and how does it even work with curse naoya since the thing doesn't perform action, it just flies and drift, and I don't think going straight is an action at all because at that point moving 24 millimeters will froze his ass

 

[LIGHTYW]

(MBA vs 16F Yujikuna) should produce the same result as canon?

EXTREME DIFF BUT 16F TAKES IT. PROBABLY.

 

[Sus]

(MBA vs 16F Yujikuna) should produce the same result as canon?

when in yutas domain, he compares the situation to his fight with ryu, so id say its the same outcome yea

EXTREME DIFF BUT 16F TAKES IT. PROBABLY.

not extreme diff, kashimo just dies, maybe a bit slower due to no WCS, but sukuna still has cleave so

 

[Sus]

This is super redundant at this point but can anyone remind me what suggest that curse naoya is faster than normal naoya? we can like see human naoya has not been caught by maki at all until the very end of the fight (on a technical manner cuz she can read CT now) while curse naoya is only faster than pre awakened maki at top speed. Even then maki states that toji would be able to react to it anyway. I've also seen people says stuff about action per second but no one seems to know how big of an action can it be, and how does it even work with curse naoya since the thing doesn't perform action, it just flies and drift, and I don't think going straight is an action at all because at that point moving 24 millimeters will froze his ass

human caps at transonic
cursed womb is supersonic and cursed spirit caps at 3 mach

these are manga statements

 

[LIGHTYW]

when in yutas domain, he compares the situation to his fight with ryu, so id say its the same outcome yea

not extreme diff, kashimo just dies, maybe a bit slower due to no WCS, but sukuna still has cleave so

NO BRO.

 

[Sus]

NO BRO.

sukuna directly says that yuta and yuji are not more durable than ryu, and he similarly cant kill them with a dismantle

so 16f is at least as, if not more powerful than the sukuna they fought at the raid

 

[Nonynho]

so 16f is at least as, if not more powerful than the sukuna they fought at the raid

I firmly believe the first case ngl

 

[LIGHTYW]

sukuna directly says that yuta and yuji are not more durable than ryu, and he similarly cant kill them with a dismantle

so 16f is at least as, if not more powerful than the sukuna they fought at the raid

IDK BRO.

 

[GTsek]

sukuna directly says that yuta and yuji are not more durable than ryu, and he similarly cant kill them with a dismantle

so 16f is at least as, if not more powerful than the sukuna they fought at the raid

I think Sukuna's statement is kind of a direct comparison between the two versions of himself. I think we can say that the Sukuna that faces Yuji and Yuta, before being nerfed by Yuji, is relatively close to Meguna 16F.

 

[OculoOmnibus]

The Earthquake calc used right now really bothered me so I tried making a new one.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:OculoOmnibus/Gojo%27s_Trench-Shaking_Earthquake

 

[Arkenis]

The Earthquake calc used right now really bothered me so I tried making a new one.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:OculoOmnibus/Gojo%27s_Trench-Shaking_Earthquake

U should check out the earthquake thread then.

 

[Rogue_Forge]

U should check out the earthquake thread then.

Damn that post is ass

 

[Rogue_Forge]

The OP itself even states that the Japan Trench that was used in the original calc has a max depth of ~8000 meters, which is exactly how deep Kenjaku SAYS the prison realm was

The maximum depth of the Japan Trench is 8046 meters,

And their statement about Gojos earthquake being stronger than the 9.0 one that destroyed several cities has literally zero weight because we don't know if Gojo's earthquake caused any damage outside of the Saitama prefecture because we don't see anything outside of there, for all we know he could have wiped out the entirety of Japan's eastern seaboard

 

[Rogue_Forge]

And do I even need to mention the lack of any other earthquake Magnitudes besides Magnitude 4?

 

[Sus]

I think Sukuna's statement is kind of a direct comparison between the two versions of himself. I think we can say that the Sukuna that faces Yuji and Yuta, before being nerfed by Yuji, is relatively close to Meguna 16F.

yeah if both versions of himself are doing similar damage to characters of similar durability, said versions should be comparable

 

[Rodriiogo]

Sukuna in Shinjuku even in the Yuji and Yuta fight was doing the same, if not less, damage than a 10% 16F Sukuna did to Awakened Maki and Rage Amped CG Yuji (Awakened Maki is decently above Shinjuku Yuta and Unawakened Yuji in raw physicals as well), how are people tryna compare him to full power 16F Sukuna again? Even a Rika that wasn't fully manifested was already damaging and pushing back that Sukuna decently well.

If you put any form of non-nerfed 15-16F Sukuna against any of the situations Sukuna was in Shinjuku they'd get low diff'd maximum. Awakened Yuji is turning into a pancake instead of a waffle.

 

[Sus]

wheel scaling might be the dumbest thing the wiki does for JJK

Sukuna in Shinjuku even in the Yuji and Yuta fight was doing the same, if not less, damage than a 10% 16F Sukuna did to Awakened Maki and Rage Amped CG Yuji (Awakened Maki is decently above Shinjuku Yuta and Unawakened Yuji in raw physicals as well), how are people tryna compare him to full power 16F Sukuna again? Even a Rika that wasn't fully manifested was already damaging and pushing back that Sukuna decently well.

If you put any form of non-nerfed 15-16F Sukuna against any of the situations Sukuna was in Shinjuku they'd get low diff'd maximum. Awakened Yuji is turning into a pancake instead of a waffle.

while meguna was definitely weaker physically, 10% refers to his CT output, sukuna also says he can control the body well, its his output thats low

and sukuna directly compares the situation against yuji and yuta to when he fought ryu

why do u think he opted to using cleave on the ground and punch maki instead of just cleaving her face?

 

[Rodriiogo]

while meguna was definitely weaker physically, 10% refers to his CT output, sukuna also says he can control the body well, its his output thats low

The control his body well part (about how he can move unhindered) was not about him not being nerfed physically by 10% but about how Megumi despite being able to nerf his Cursed Energy Output, can't take control over his body like Yuji does, he was nerfed by 10% physically as well as you just said his Cursed Energy output is what's low, that nerfs physicals as well.

and sukuna directly compares the situation against yuji and yuta to when he fought ryu

The comparison is that they survived his dismantles, just that, I won't even explain how inconsistent Ryu being able to fully tank dismantles is as well again. Do I need to point out again how Sukuna and Gojo scale to Sukuna's Domain amped cleaves even if they do cut him (Gojo) which would mean 16F Sukuna PHYSICALS would scale to the same cleaves that one tapped Ryu?

why do u think he opted to using cleave on the ground and punch maki instead of just cleaving her face?

Because he directly notes his cursed technique gets nerfed even further than it already was every time he attacks them with it. Also Sukuna in Shinjuku was also doing minor damage to maki with the same cleave, and yes this is relevant considering a Sukuna even weaker than the one that fights maki fights the same Yuji that fought the "Yuji and Yuta fight" Sukuna one. Maki took a cleave to the stomach and to the face from that Sukuna with minor damages and kept fighting. The stomach one didn't even leave a good mark or any injury either and the face one only did because Sukuna turned serious for a moment.

 

[Rodriiogo]

I mean if you want a even more obvious comparission, tell me which Sukuna is way stronger considering Yuta is LESS durable than Ryu:

Both are cleaves to the face
(Before you note that Sukuna was already getting pummeled in the left scene, as I said before, Yuji fights a even weaker Sukuna than this one and was STILL losing if he didn't have help lol)