You have provided No debunk for the evidence that astral plane is 1-A,
I have, in the Tour De Force. Debunks are debunks, regardless of where they come from. If there was an even more comprehensive and total debunk of Marvel Cosmology on one of the moons of Jupiter, it would be right, even if no human could ever possibly read it. If your only argument against something that refutes your position to a level that would require logical contradiction in the process of arguing against it (
Especially the parts about infinity and abstraction in Marvel) is to apply to a bureaucratic standard then you don't actually have an argument, because arguments do not gain or lose weight depending on what social rules to follow. VS wiki would preface every single argument it makes with a long screed about ethnic minorities and homosexuals and pretty much everyone else, and put racial slurs in between every word as it exists on the page, and it would not change the strength of their arguments one iota. The fact that you mistake a social rule for an actual law of argumentation is extremely poor for your ability to defend your claims and debunk opposing claims.
no acknowledgment of the fact that it’s not magic that non magic beings withstand it’s what’s created by magic that they withstand,
1-A magic hitting a non 1-A character would be like a real person setting a fictional character on fire. I.e: there's nothing the fictional character can do except get affected. Characters with explicitly no magic resistance in Marvel can not get instantly killed/haxed/whatever by supposedly '1-A' magic.
and 1-A stuff can make non 1-A stuff and magic quite blatantly normally creates stuff that’s lower then magic itself,
1-A things cannot create non 1-A things that come from parts of themselves. Sure, a 1-A character can create non 1-A characters, but not by literally dividing themselves into Not-Infinity. Considering the 1-A basis for Marvel Magic is 'they warp the universe to cast spells' this means either the universe isn't 1-A or that everyone in Marvel is 1-A, which disproves 1-A as you need a transcendence to be 1-A. If everything is on that level from the start; there is no transcendence, therefore no 1-A.
no evidence that what TOAA was harmed by was finite,
If you have infinite durability, there is no limit to the amount of force that you can withstand without being harmed. Since there is no limit to how much force you can take, you can't take physical damage. People need to negate your durability to harm you.
Similarly, there is no 'gradual' with infinity. You cannot wear down someone with infinite durability, because infinity minus 99% of infinity is still infinity (same number). Wearing down finite amounts of an infinitely durable character is a logical paradox at its strongest (Supertasks don't have a final state) or would take a literal infinite amount of time. You are either infinite or not. Let's assume that bigger infinities are applicable for physical measurement like mass, volume, energy, density and the like (They're not but we're playing pretend). Since the difference between higher infinities is an infinite difference, there are exactly three outcomes to a fight between infinitely powerful beings:
1. Infinite stalemate. Neither can harm each other, outpower each other, wear each other down, tire each other out.
2. Instant death. The lower infinity character's attacks are no-sold and they are instantly destroyed by any attack of the higher infinity's characters
3. Hax battle. By now physical durability and power no longer play, meaning it's a question of range, hax, intelligence, and resistances.
self contradiction by both saying the attack had no special Hax and admitting it had corruption hax,
It has basic ***** corruption hax. TOAA is dumber than me IRL because if I were in his position I would have immediately sent an army of people to talk it out with the Mother of Horrors that have every power in fiction (and then some) and if the mother of horrors attacks, the attack:
- Instantly gets negated
- Mother of Horrors retroactively ceases to exist
- If the attack hits (It cannot) it heals me and makes me strong enough to auto-win
- If the attack works, it retroactively fails to works, and every being to ever exist is now possessed with perfect knowledge of the Mother of Horrors and the ability and will to utterly destroy her
- Among quite literally, an infinite amount of other things
no acknowledgment of the fact that even regular gods can lower their level of existence so a 1-A god like Thor should logically be able to do it to a 1-A extent
Not only does this claim
not have a source (meaning I could just dismiss it easily), the entire claim for 1-A Thor is that he can power up to such a level that he can harm 1-A characters, which in of itself disproves him being 1-A, because you can't go from non 1-A to 1-A under multiplying your own power, under the rules of VS wiki.
not trying to sound mean or anything, but these non arguments are straight up annoying
Your non-arguments are logical contradictions and could be dismissed automatically. I don't because I'm not that rude, despite how my positions are supported by things like plato.edu, scientific papers, and mathematical papers (all of them infinitely more reliable than anything any powerscaler says, meaning when they contradict they essentially always win). In the Tour De Force I used an argument from silence in the sense that since no mathematician or scientist uses dimensional tiering (supposedly based off of mathematics and science) it isn't true. It would be a fallacy if you know the claim behind dimensional tiering wasn't pseudo
math and pseudo
science.