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The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

It makes sense that TOAA is bound to "the world of action" as Ewing put it. TOAA has previously been portrayed as a concrete being, not a conceptually completely transcendent and all-encompassing one. 🙏
 
Besides that though you can just wait. These kinda sites are like Hydra n shit, so it's just waiting game.
Don't get too confident, we, the Spanish-speaking people lost the biggest translated manga website of all (to be fair they made millions of dollars from it, which is illegal, but still)
 
Yeah but there are other translated manga sites that serve as alternates.

There are of course alternates for the aforementioned lost site too, but either they don't have as expansive an archive or it's reliant on downloads, which isn't the best for our purposes.

As said it is just a waiting game.
 
So Jonathan Hickman seems to continue to do what he does "best": Continue to proudly and gleefully deliberately engineer the increasing corruption of everything he touches to absolute degrees.

"The Light Had Its Turn" slogan doesn't seem to make any logical sense, as Marvel Comics is already extremely dark in many respects, largely due to Hickman's own destructive social engineering direction of its overall narrative. 🙏

 
So Jonathan Hickman seems to continue to do what he does "best": Continue to proudly and gleefully deliberately engineer the increasing corruption of everything he touches to absolute degrees.

"The Light Had Its Turn" slogan doesn't seem to make any logical sense, as Marvel Comics is already extremely dark in many respects, largely due to Hickman's own destructive social engineering direction of its overall narrative. 🙏

I’m gonna be real with you man, every time you talk about this shit you sound like classic Superboy Prime who would constantly talk about how “dark” and “gritty” modern comics are with no room for nuance. It feels like you start with the belief of things being evil and bad and then only ever focus on the aspects that feed into that belief while ignoring everything else that goes against it.

Hickman’s entire Secret Wars run and the lead up to it literally culminated in him outright saying that all life is precious and everything lives but you hyperfocus on the struggles and conflicts that occur to get to that ending. Same with Immortal Hulk showcasing that destruction is not necessarily an evil but is instead a natural process of reality and that the same hands that destroy and defile can also create and save if one makes choice to do so. But again you focus on the dark aspects and paint that entire run with that brush which is ironic because people solely seeing Hulk has a destructive monster is what all the villains take advantage of in that run and it’s people like The Thing who see that there is more beneath that initial belief that helps Banner and his alters succeed and grow as people.
 
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Usually Ant is pessimistic to Biblical degrees, but here I must agree... The only remotely "Light" stuff I can even remember is the latest Fantastic Four run (which I will never get tired of advertising).
I am not actually, at least not nowadays. I am just attempting to honestly diagnose social, cultural, and spiritual poison and disease, and trying to offer positive solutions. Please see the last epilogue chapter of my story or the bottom of my wiki user page for examples. 🙏
 
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I’m gonna be real with you man, every time you talk about this shit you sound like classic Superboy Prime who would constantly talk about how “dark” and “gritty” modern comics are with no room for nuance. It feels like you start with the belief of things being evil and bad and then only ever focus on the aspects that feed into that belief while ignoring everything else that goes against it.

Hickman’s entire Secret Wars run and the lead up to it literally culminated in him outright saying that all life is precious and everything lives but you hyperfocus on the struggles and conflicts that occur to get to that ending. Same with Immortal Hulk showcasing that destruction is not necessarily an evil but is instead a natural process of reality and that the same hands that destroy and defile can also create and save if one makes choice to do so. But again you focus on the dark aspects and paint that entire run with that brush which is ironic because people solely seeing Hulk has a destructive monster is what all the villains take advantage of in that run and it’s people like The Thing who see that there is more beneath that initial belief that helps Banner and his alters succeed and grow as people.
No. I definitely do recognise socially destructive narrative corruption within media when I see it, and Hickman's sum total production is almost completely unconstructive sadistic anti-spiritual cosmic horror or absolute genuine poisonous cynicism or ultramilitant warfare as entertainment, even to genocidal social Darwinian degrees at times. He actively enforces the false narrative that not only is everything absolutely awful, but everything is almost certainly going to stay absolutely awful forever no matter what, and that the only way to temporarily hold off complete extinction is through relentless survivalist ultraviolence.

Again, please read the entirety of my story for my systematic deconstruction of that entire mindset and ideology as the extremely infectious memetic cancer it truly is.

Also, Superboy-Prime was deliberately reconstructed as an absolutely dishonest and offhanded "take that" ad hominem extremely simplified straw man to sadistically attack, degrade, and dehumanise anybody who had the audacity to state that extreme darkness within media is destructive and corruptive, whereas light can be highly constructive and redemptive if handled properly, rather than engaging honestly with the argument. So the writer only truly succeeded in proving that he was willing to act like a piece of shit of a moral level for a very prolonged period of time. 🙏
 
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Yeah but there are other translated manga sites that serve as alternates.

There are of course alternates for the aforementioned lost site too, but either they don't have as expansive an archive or it's reliant on downloads, which isn't the best for our purposes.

As said it is just a waiting game.
You just described the case of the page I'm referring to... People have compared it to the burning of the Library of Alexandria because a lot of translations were only there, and now they're lost forever. I can't finish half of my manga anymore because I can't find them translated anywhere anymore
 
I am sorry to hear that. 🙏🙁
 
On a different subject, I have got to say that Volumes 7 & 8 of Silver Surfer were easily two of my favorite comic book runs ever.

The only thing is that I cannot read the last two issues of Volume 8 without getting constantly gut punched by the end, but that's just good writing.
Which writer runs were that? 🙏
 
You just described the case of the page I'm referring to... People have compared it to the burning of the Library of Alexandria because a lot of translations were only there, and now they're lost forever. I can't finish half of my manga anymore because I can't find them translated anywhere anymore
I can send you links to the manga sites I know about via a private message if you wish. Maybe you will find your unfinished manga in them? 🙏
 
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You just described the case of the page I'm referring to... People have compared it to the burning of the Library of Alexandria because a lot of translations were only there, and now they're lost forever. I can't finish half of my manga anymore because I can't find them translated anywhere anymore
What Manga?
 
Dan Slott.

It really made Silver Surfer feel like Doctor Who: An alien man who has godlike powers yet is a pacifist who sees the absolute beauty of humanity in spite of its many flaws, and learns new things about the universe alongside humanity.
Yes. Dan Slott's She-Hulk and Silver Surfer runs were great, except for that I did not like that he irrevocably turned Zenn-la into an allegory for colonialism out of nowhere, and made it impossible to ever use it as a setting for stories again. 🙏
 
Just in case, I just reread what I posted, and in case there's a misunderstanding, what I said is that I can't finish reading half of the manga I used to read, not that I have a mangas
Well, I meant that maybe you can find those mangas again by checking through all of the manga sites I know about. 🙏
 
Just in case, I just reread what I posted, and in case there's a misunderstanding, what I said is that I can't finish reading half of the manga I used to read, not that I have a mangas
I have been reading manga on a single website for years, a website that is constantly switching domain to avoid all the crap. The same for my anime, movies and series websites, I have like 3 different websites saved up as backup. I ain't missing a single chapter from my favorite mangas.
 
Perhaps... By any chance, do someone know where I can read SHY from chapter 270 onwards? The manga has 293 chapters in total, but I've only found up to 270.


Privately, apparently mentioning the names on public pages increases the chances of them being shut down.
That, and that we interrupt the thread
 
can any marvel supporters in my thread discuss the marvel debunk i made in the tour de force. i want to hear dissenting opinions
 
Perhaps... By any chance, do someone know where I can read SHY from chapter 270 onwards? The manga has 293 chapters in total, but I've only found up to 270.


Privately, apparently mentioning the names on public pages increases the chances of them being shut down.
That, and that we interrupt the thread
As someone who has been on the same place I simply go to Google and search [Manga name] chapter [number] read online and see what comes up, that or I look up the site of the translator. Usually I get good results
 
Dan Slott.

It really made Silver Surfer feel like Doctor Who: An alien man who has godlike powers yet is a pacifist who sees the absolute beauty of humanity in spite of its many flaws, and learns new things about the universe alongside humanity.
The art in it is really good too. I like that Surfer has really stylized art in some of his runs because they play into that cosmic adventures aspect very well. Hence why I really like Trad Moore on Silver Surfer: Black so much, even though that takes a more abstract, ethereal approach.
 
Yes. Dan Slott's She-Hulk and Silver Surfer runs were great, except for that I did not like that he irrevocably turned Zenn-la into an allegory for colonialism out of nowhere, and made it impossible to ever use it as a setting for stories again. 🙏
I didn't keep up with that one, what happened to Zenn-La?
 
I didn't keep up with that one, what happened to Zenn-La?
It was portrayed as systematically supernaturally completely replacing the cultures of other planets with its own, and ended up having its own culture completely nullified in the end of the story. 🙏
 
Perhaps... By any chance, do someone know where I can read SHY from chapter 270 onwards? The manga has 293 chapters in total, but I've only found up to 270.


Privately, apparently mentioning the names on public pages increases the chances of them being shut down.
That, and that we interrupt the thread
Yes, definitely don't link to them in public. I will send you a private message. 🙏
 
I want to have a thread to discuss and conclude the 1-A issue. I could post it myself, but I think that it should be staff discussion with knowledgeable members allowed to comment. Am I allowed to post a staff discussion thread myself? Do you think such a thread even needs to be staff discussion?
 
I want to have a thread to discuss and conclude the 1-A issue. I could post it myself, but I think that it should be staff discussion with knowledgeable members allowed to comment. Am I allowed to post a staff discussion thread myself? Do you think such a thread even needs to be staff discussion?
Absolutely staff discussion
 
What do you wish to say exactly? 🙏
 
What do you wish to say exactly? 🙏
I don't have all that much to say, I just want it to finally be hashed out. My main point is that every character currently Low 1-A absolutely scales to the characters we currently have as 1-A (namely Nightmare, Doctor Strange, Dormammu, Phoenix Force). So either all of them are 1-A too, or many of the 1-As (everyone below Uni Abstract true form) need to be downgraded to Low 1-A. The main issue that is brought up is the inaccessibility and qualitative superiority of the 1-A tier, which I do not think that many of these characters adequately display.

Ok actually it seems I have a lot to say. But basically my issue isn't the tiering itself, but who scales to it. I don't care if everyone is 1-A or Low 1-A, I just think they need to be the same tier, whichever that may be. Other people have brought up serious concerns with the 1-A tiering itself though, so a conclusion needs to be reached.
 
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I don't have all that much to say, I just want it to finally be hashed out. My main point is that every character currently Low 1-A absolutely scales to the characters we currently have as 1-A (namely Nightmare, Doctor Strange, Dormammu, Phoenix Force). So either all of them are 1-A too, or many of the 1-As (everyone below Uni Abstract true form) need to be downgraded to Low 1-A. The main issue that is brought up is the inaccessibility and qualitative superiority of the 1-A tier, which I do not think that many of these characters adequately display.
Yes, very good. An example is how Thor doesn't instantly kill any non 1-A character simply by tapping them. Or how Thor has issue dealing with non 1-A things in general. See Hulk or Hercules for instance.
 
I don't have all that much to say, I just want it to finally be hashed out. My main point is that every character currently Low 1-A absolutely scales to the characters we currently have as 1-A (namely Nightmare, Doctor Strange, Dormammu, Phoenix Force). So either all of them are 1-A too, or many of the 1-As (everyone below Uni Abstract true form) need to be downgraded to Low 1-A. The main issue that is brought up is the inaccessibility and qualitative superiority of the 1-A tier, which I do not think that many of these characters adequately display.

Ok actually it seems I have a lot to say. But basically my issue isn't the tiering itself, but who scales to it. I don't care if everyone is 1-A or Low 1-A, I just think they need to be the same tier, whichever that may be. Other people have brought up serious concerns with the 1-A tiering though, so a conclusion needs to be reached.
Well, it is no secret that I think that our DC Comics and Marvel Comics tiers intuitively seem enormously laxly applied for what seems to be purely physical rather than completely transcendent characters, so I think that massive downgrades would be ideal for both verses. Our standards for their ridiculously high tiers seem to have turned enormously more lenient than for any other verses in this wiki. 🙏
 
Well, it is no secret that I think that our DC Comics and Marvel Comics tiers intuitively seem enormously laxly applied for what seems to be purely physical rather than completely transcendent characters, so I think that massive downgrades would be ideal for both verses. Our standards for their ridiculously high tiers seem to have turned enormously more lenient than for any other verses in this wiki. 🙏
Yeah, to be honest, the more I think about it, the more I dislike 1-A. I'm thinking Abstract M-Bodies should just be Low 1-A, since Skyfather Tier characters do have the ability to hurt them, meaning that they do not "transcend lower existences to the point that those vanish into nothingness." I think the Infinity Gauntlet can probably be 1-A though, as it does seem to have the reality/fiction transcendence 1-A implies (even if it is apparently below Abstract true forms).

I can make a thread tomorrow if everyone is ok with that
 
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