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Meliodas VS Isshiki (13-12-0)

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Meliodas VS Isshiki

-Equal speed
-Post-purgatory Meliodas

Meliodas: 14 (AlipheeseXIV, Speedster352, Makai641001, TheHuntsman1001, XxZetsuxX, Demon_Lord18, Majinere566, Jey-kun52, MeliodasDeUzyy, CastoriceTheFifth, Kaydee1648, Robo432343, Gamin_Yoon23, Estarossa0z)
Isshiki: 12 (Foriaa, karo_senpaii, Trihexa102, Richardo908, AlternativePrinciple, R81handman, DavidTPPM, Suigetsuhyugs, Nonynho, rogueprestonian, Fallen_Angelicx, FARLANDER3305)

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doesn't sshiki get EE? That's a win-con for lio for sure. How does sshiki even get past his immortality? (Aside from maybe BFR, since I don't think lio is getting out of that)
 
What's stopping Isshiki from shrinking Meli's arsenal and then BFR'ing him into Daikokuten
 
Foriaa said:
What's stopping Isshiki from shrinking Meli's arsenal and then BFR'ing him into Daikokuten
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does sound like a win-con. I see nothing in lio's profile that can prove he can get out of it. Though, the thing is would sshiki be able to get him in there? sshiki is likely gonna have to really work for this win-con, since i doubt a perfectly healthy lio is getting BFR that easily.
 
Can the OP specify which version of Meli is being used? Regardless, before even mentioning what Isshiki does, this guy doesn't even have a way to get past any layered Demon passives and for some reason no one has brought that up
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Can the OP specify which version of Meli is being used? Regardless, before even mentioning what Isshiki does, this guy doesn't even have a way to get past any layered Demon passives and for some reason no one has brought that up
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saw that, but didn't read too much into it. Anyway, sshiki only has like one win-con against lio.
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Can the OP specify which version of Meli is being used? Regardless, before even mentioning what Isshiki does, this guy doesn't even have a way to get past any layered Demon passives and for some reason no one has brought that up
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Say which ones he can't get past
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Can the OP specify which version of Meli is being used? Regardless, before even mentioning what Isshiki does, this guy doesn't even have a way to get past any layered Demon passives and for some reason no one has brought that up
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Says post purgatory
 
Bossbrosish said:
Says post purgatory
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Yikes...well if Isshiki cannot deal with passive 3 layered fear hax, 2 layers of mind hax, paralysis inducement, 4 layers of status effect inducement, 4 layers of disease manip, 1 layer of corrosion inducement, 3 layers of deconstruction and need I mention the EE?
 
Like yeah...Isshiki can shrink him, but shrinking Meli is not going to stop the butt load of layered hax that he has, nor the passives
 
Foriaa said:
Isshiki can shrink that miasma
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He definitely cannot, the miasma will effect him before he gets to shrink it, also because this is post purgatory Meli iirc his magic is literally passive deconstruction (though hold off on that until some knowledgeable members confirm cuz I could be wrong) regardless tho, the aura is 120% affecting Isshiki the moment the fight starts
 
Has Meliodas willingly used any of those said passives outside of Assault Mode or being slowly being possessed/possessed by the Demon King?

Because the only times I recall him using those were when he went up against Melascula, and then in Assault Mode against Escanor both times when he was in a negative mental state.
 
Didn't see a panel of Meliodas controlling the miasma so can't it just get blown away? And this shit just looks like it makes them sick nothing else
 
If the miasma needs to come in contact with the person, Isshiki can either shrink or absorb it
 
Foriaa said:
Why?
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Because that's how passive aura works in vs matches, they affect the character immediately, and Isshiki does not have immeasurable speed, so he's not avoiding or reacting to it at the start of the match. This doesn't change the fact that in order for him to even do anything about it he first needs to resist it's effects, which he cannot do since he lacks any meaningful resistances
 
Not sure, considering he scales above people like young Escanor who could aura wipe a kingdom I'm pretty sure it is. Would wanna wait and double check with knowledgeable members though just to be sure
 
AlipheeseXIV said:
Not sure, considering he scales above people like young Escanor who could aura wipe a kingdom I'm pretty sure it is. Would wanna wait and double check with knowledgeable members though just to be sure
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His miasma doesn't even cover a kilometer, the first time it's brought up was by Merlin when King and Escanor, except herself and Elizabeth, were getting sick. And they were all in the Boar's Hat Bar and it didn't even instantly kill them.
 
And his Post Purgatory self doesn't even use it in character since it was something he was passively making when he lost his emotions, and when in a negative mental state due to Melasculas taunting of Elizabeth's curse and the Demon King's influence
 
OneBleachHurricane said:
And his Post Purgatory self doesn't even use it in character since it was something he was passively making when he lost his emotions, and when in a negative mental state due to Melasculas taunting of Elizabeth's curse and the Demon King's influence
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Not Meliodas covering his body in miasma/using trillion dark during every fight post purgatory 😹


Passive EE/deconstruction Aura might be too much it’s range can extend and he can interact with space time portals just like Basically anyone with magic (and also physically)
 
Makai641001 said:
Not Meliodas covering his body in miasma/using trillion dark during every fight post purgatory 😹
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When was it accepted that Darkness = Miasma?

Makai641001 said:
Passive EE/deconstruction Aura might be too much it’s range can extend and he can interact with space time portals just like Basically anyone with magic (and also physically)
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Passive EE Aura that didn't EE Zeldris' hand when he put on Meliodas' shoulder when Meliodas' visually had an aura?
 
Demon_Lord18 said:
Depending on how Isshiki’s sealing works, Meliodas could easily escape, just like he did here.
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Or just deconstruct the sealing…
iirc it’s a giant cube that falls and Puts people in a sort of sleep.

Bfr won’t really work as Meliodas can just interact with the portal keep it open etc…

This Meliodas scales up to far higher than 920 Megafoe isn’t it like hundreds to thousands of times > Isshiki ?
 
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How could Isshiki deal with all of this? Meliodas imbues the Hellfire into his hand and swords during the fight.
 
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OneBleachHurricane said:
Question about this

Shouldn't this example fall under his EE instead of Decon since what he used in that feat was a small amount of his True Magic? Or does True Magic fall under both EE and Decon?
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It’s both.

Demon_Lord18 said:
460.01 Megafoe, but yes
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Oh Yeah i forgot people on this site think TMF Meliodas is barely > 50% deities (he killed 50% SD without his TMF, without commandments)
 
Makai641001 said:
It’s both.
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Then shouldn't it say that?

Basically rewording it as:

Deconstructed Supreme Deity with "Hellblaze/Darkness" [Don't remember the exact details of Mel & Zel's combo attack]. Destroyed the Demon King's arm with his True Magic.

So that it isn't just a vague description.
 
Makai641001 said:
Oh Yeah i forgot people on this site think TMF Meliodas is barely > 50% deities (he killed 50
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Actually, I completely forgot about TMF. TMF should be at least 10x stronger than Demon Mark Meliodas, since Meliodas would be able to defeat the SD in that form, while a Meliodas with magic-imbued armament couldn’t even get past the SD’s barrier.

Something like 4.6 Gigafoe
 
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