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1. 100% this guy covered that whole door in ice and in the movie it damn near the wall lmao.
But I don’t know how to pixel calc tbh. And we can’t use the anime feats anyway
2. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
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Akatsukiverse: General Discussion Thread
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1. 100% this guy covered that whole door in ice and in the movie it damn near the wall lmao.
But I don’t know how to pixel calc tbh. And we can’t use the anime feats anyway
2. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
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1. Oh yeah, only advanced tier he learnt were teleportation and explosion lol. I just remember Wiz telling him she’d teach him advanced magic when he returns and somehow convinced myself he already had it in his arsenal.
2. lol, most we can get is any magic user getting 9-A simply because they should be stronger / no weaker than Kazuma.
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9-A is strangely consistent with all the explosion survival feat in the ova and movie
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There are talks of making anime profiles so its worth keeping it in mind
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Anime profiles should be last in talks if no LN profiles have scans
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@TheShape03 already made the LN profiles in sandboxes, he is waiting for the calculations and some other minor stuffAnime profiles should be last in talks if no LN profiles have scans
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Should Kazuma have resurrection on his profile?
He can freely teleport between Eris’s space and the Konosuba planet by the EOS.
And it’s been made clear several times that Kazuma is quite literally a physical being in there. Which is why Resurrection needs there to be a solid amount of the body left to work.
When Kazuma used explosion which destroyed his entire body (which funnily enough should be building level, why didn’t we have that for his 8-C Justification lmao) and so in the after life he didn’t have one hence why he needed a double resurrection to get his body back.
Every other death hasn’t damaged his body to that extent which is why he has a physical form.
And now he can teleport in and out of heaven.
is it just too much guesswork or sum?
Edit: just going through them deaths and how he is the in the afterlife, when Kazuma was beheaded (both times) he still had a fully body, when Kazuma snapped his neck he had a full body, when half of Kazuma was dissolved in stomach acid he had a full body, even Dust when he died by getting crushed by the Hydra still had his body when he met Eris etc.
The only time he didn’t have a full body was when he Chiaotzu‘d himself. And the story makes a point to hammer in that he’s just a soul not just by Kazuma himself but Eris and Aqua before they gift him a new body.
And to add onto this furthermore, when Kazuma pulls up in Eris’s room, she didn’t even know he wasn’t dead showing that them having physical bodies is expected.
And obviously he can use his skills in the afterlife or
1. He wouldn’t have been able to set a teleport point there in the first place
2. He wouldn’t have been able to leave by his own power in the epilogue
So I don’t think something like “Resurrection via teleport” is crazy tbh
He can freely teleport between Eris’s space and the Konosuba planet by the EOS.
And it’s been made clear several times that Kazuma is quite literally a physical being in there. Which is why Resurrection needs there to be a solid amount of the body left to work.
When Kazuma used explosion which destroyed his entire body (which funnily enough should be building level, why didn’t we have that for his 8-C Justification lmao) and so in the after life he didn’t have one hence why he needed a double resurrection to get his body back.
Every other death hasn’t damaged his body to that extent which is why he has a physical form.
And now he can teleport in and out of heaven.
is it just too much guesswork or sum?
Edit: just going through them deaths and how he is the in the afterlife, when Kazuma was beheaded (both times) he still had a fully body, when Kazuma snapped his neck he had a full body, when half of Kazuma was dissolved in stomach acid he had a full body, even Dust when he died by getting crushed by the Hydra still had his body when he met Eris etc.
The only time he didn’t have a full body was when he Chiaotzu‘d himself. And the story makes a point to hammer in that he’s just a soul not just by Kazuma himself but Eris and Aqua before they gift him a new body.
And to add onto this furthermore, when Kazuma pulls up in Eris’s room, she didn’t even know he wasn’t dead showing that them having physical bodies is expected.
And obviously he can use his skills in the afterlife or
1. He wouldn’t have been able to set a teleport point there in the first place
2. He wouldn’t have been able to leave by his own power in the epilogue
So I don’t think something like “Resurrection via teleport” is crazy tbh
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Hey guys I noticed that the big shots in konosuba finally got their buffs. Though how's it affect some other characters that face them? I'm mostly referring to Wiz tho, since I'm reading one of the yomichi side stories and it seems she fights vanir pretty well. That, and it seems she tanked a death ray
I know vanir uses the dirt bodies and that's not his true from in hell but if that's considered weaker, it may need a separate key right?
I know vanir uses the dirt bodies and that's not his true from in hell but if that's considered weaker, it may need a separate key right?
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Yes, Vanir needs a separate key for his avatars.
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By the way, this makes sense, even if it's crazy. It probably breaks some rule of Heaven, and Eris wouldn't be happy if Kazuma used that ability to resurrect whenever he wanted, but I doubt Kazuma cares much about that if he really needs to resurrect quickly.
Although it wouldn't be applicable to combat, since even though he can return to the mortal world, he can only teleport to one of his previously registered teleportation destinations.
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I see, still would be nice on his profile, and it could be applicable in Match-ups that take place in axel or if someone wants let Kazuma have a marker in the battlefield.
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I added it to the sandbox, I'll add some scans later.
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Soul manip/NPI for Explosion ?
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Everyone in Konosuba has soul manipulation since absorbing souls is how they level up.
But I don’t think explosion gets it fully, but it should get NPI as I’m sure it works on Spirits, ghosts, etc.
Kazuma ending up as soul after using explosion was just because his entire body was vaporised unlike his other deaths where we had a physical body which is why I’m saying unless a lot of this body is destroyed, when he dies he can’t exactly be killed.
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Explosion being the most powerful magic does not mean that every Explosion user is 6-B, it only means that they can potentially reach 6-B. The thread specifies that Explosion would be 6-B "at full power".
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I checked the light novel. What the wizard used to create the storm was an expensive talisman, not an Advanced Magic spell. The person who summoned the storm wasn't even able to dispel it when it started to become a nuisance.
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I still think it’s pretty valuable. Since we know crimson demons control the weather in their region to make it sunny all year round and stuff.
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Also I started reading the novels of Sentouin, honestly. I had a feeling off the manga, but in the novels really boosts my confidence in Natsume.
I’m the type of scaler who tries to take priority in author intentions over just going for the highest end interpretation because a lot of authors will have a character dodge lasers and people will go “LIGHT SPEED!” But like let’s be real, those are just glorified bullets.
But seeing how much of a (surprising) understanding Natsume has of like physics and shit lowkey gives me more confidence in scaling all his works.
I think we should have author scaling on VSBW where certain feats can hold more ground if the author shows an understanding of physics and shit lmao
I’m the type of scaler who tries to take priority in author intentions over just going for the highest end interpretation because a lot of authors will have a character dodge lasers and people will go “LIGHT SPEED!” But like let’s be real, those are just glorified bullets.
But seeing how much of a (surprising) understanding Natsume has of like physics and shit lowkey gives me more confidence in scaling all his works.
I think we should have author scaling on VSBW where certain feats can hold more ground if the author shows an understanding of physics and shit lmao
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Sheesh, it’s funnier too cuz I think I re-read this the other day and in the novel all he did was freeze the handle IIRC and he collapsed lmao.
Shows a good power escalation too as he recreates in v5
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Was it the Megumin spin off ? Cuz at least in the anime, Megumin's teacher casully create a storm with a spell with Advanced Magic just to aura farm. So even if it's not applicable in LN, we coule still keep this in mind for the anime profiles
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They were in a steamy bath so the room temperature should be higher than 20°C too
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Yes.
In the novel, the teacher cast the exact same spell, but a few pages later Megumin states that he simply used a talisman for it. Furthermore, I don't think that's Advanced Magic at all. Basic, Intermediate, and Advanced Magic are all simply elemental spells, like Lightning (and all its variations), Tornado, Light of Saber, etc. There are different types of magic beyond those, and weather-controlling magic is a different type of magic.
I'm pretty sure it was a room that was outside the bathroom.
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Aint "Control weather" and "Call of Thunderstorm" all Advanced Magic spell? Beside this should really apply for LN profile. Anime ones, when they are created, doesnt really have these limits
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IK it hides scent, killing intent, and based on how darkness describes it, it even hides someone in plain sight.
So maybe it does hide energy signature too, though I remember when Kazuma got killed by that Wraith as it was able to see past it.
Tho you could argue that it simply had better detection related to it being a ghost.
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Undead can sense Life energy which is different than Mana and is one of the stated weakness of Lurk. Idk if there are any instances of Kazuma using Lurk against mages
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Oh yeha, mana and vitality are different.
That’s good then. Nothing to indicate it doesn’t hide mana, so that’s solid.
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Also I’m reading through the memorial cannon and mainly the TRPG, it was made with full oversight of Natsume, so would any skills/magic etc. and their mechanics.
Be valid to use for scaling purposes? I assume not, but just wondering
Be valid to use for scaling purposes? I assume not, but just wondering
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The problem is that in both the anime and the novel, Call of Thunderstorm isn't an Advanced Magic spell. Basic, Intermediate, and Advanced are simply different levels of Elemental Magic, but there are many other types of magic, such as teleportation magic, golem creation magic, healing magic, holy magic, etc. There's literally no reason why we should scale Explosion above a spell that summons a storm and has no relation to Advanced Magic or any kind of offensive magic.
Idk.
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Are there any statements regarding weather spells as being seperate from Advanced in the anime ? I now agree with you that they are seperate in the LN, but iirc in the Megumin spinoff anime they only really mentioned Detonation as being a seperate branch from the main 3, so weather spells should only really in Advanced. Beside it would be weird that Explosion costs the most mana yet doesnt have the same energy output as a random spell despite Knsb acting on a Non Physicap energy system. Not like it would create any problem for the anime considering Explosion gets to like Large Island and Country in the movie/ss3, tho idk if Advanced Magic should scale tho the anime does portray it as being able to create tornadoes and destroy towns
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It's necessary to demonstrate that a random spell belongs to a specific type of magic when there's nothing to suggest that, and even within the anime, we have many types of magic that have nothing to do with basic, intermediate, and advanced magic (like the healing and holy magic used by Aqua and the other priests). Especially considering that this is not the case in the material being adapted into anime.
I suppose this point is valid. However, the feat is High 7-C in this case.
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Where?
We need scans of that.
If the MHS+ detonation velocity is eventually accepted, I hope I'd be allowed to calculate Megumin's cloud-dispersing feat in the Dust spin-off using that velocity.
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Iirc in the movie when Yunyun dad was showing how the village fight the DK army, you see a big battle with huge spells flying and one of them looked like a tornado but that could be wrong. Tho the spells there looked quite big. The town stuff happened in the spin off where all the adults destroyed the village tho thats one a bit vague, tho i remember there being some big explosion. Overall im neutral on Advanced Magic scaling. Tho now that the anime is being considered, someone should look into all of Wiz freezing feats in the end of ss2 and the movie
Nothing i can do to help except saying that the Megumin one happened in her fight against Arnes and Kazuma is against the Devil King
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