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Isekai at Peace Discussion Thread

I honestly dont understand, there are a shitton of verse that has bullshit hax that doesnt make sense on paper but it works anyway because of the author's intent, why go there and not this verse that really doesn't even have a lot of notable feats

other Isekai verse that has bullshit magic and hax is right next door sir, and some of them even solo this verse, and you didnt see me complaining about it
 
Its a harem slice of life which has been unironically pushed out and glazed everywhere as having one of the most powerful characters in fiction, its not a surprise this verse has haters.

Normally a series like this should have no business being powerful, and on top of that some people take it way too far wanking Shiro on every platform to ludicrous levels.

But yea people are allowed to like and dislike the series, I think this series has pulled off something unique which you dont get elsewhere, I personally don't like much slice of life yet here I am 2000 chapters into one.
 
Side note, Shallow Vernal is a will/avatar of the Epilogue, think of it like playing a video game, you have a character within the game which interacts with the world there, which can be harmed, killed etc, but the real person is outside the game.

She doesn't even understand The Epilogue, only the Epilogue can understand itself, no different from characters in a game not understanding the real person behind them.

Years ago I was confused how the Perfect/Complete Shiro who was the Epilogue could have been killed or sealed, but its obvious now, whatever you do to her doesn't affect the real person/reader, which can decide to end you, and doesn't matter where you try and hide, the Epilogue is outside the book/game and can reach anywhere within the game.
 
Personally I think its like...

The Epilogue is similar to an "IRL Person" and is clearly an symbolism for us. Only we, the reader in question can decide if a story continues or not and because we are reading Toudai's work.. he is continuing to update the chapters

Besides the other obvious reasons... its kind of cute in a meta way if you think about it because Yuusha Shoukan will in theory continue to exist as long as we Read It

Analogy wise, Vernal would be an avatar or a fictional OC inserted into the Story by the Epilogue but then again.. its kind of weird why the Epilogue limited Complete Vernal's powers when she can easily be Nebula level at worst

This is because in theory she can modify herself to Reach Prime Nebula's level (since we know she can nerf Nebula)

So in theory, The Epilogue should have no issue making Vernal that tier (since its a 1-A entity manipulating a fictional framework so it does make sense for it to do that)

I guess it just doesn't matter either ways ?
 
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Yes and it makes sense why the prologue which "should" be able to counter the epilogue doesn't rn. If shiro doesn't know about the real epilogue, neither can Kuro.

In our or epilogue's pov, she is like a person that can manipulate the story while always existing at the beginning. But she doesn't exactly exist outside it. The epilogue on the other hand isn't exactly the embodiment "the end'. The end is just a byproduct of what happens.

So it's not the end vs beginning, as the author kinda of tricks u to think sometimes
 
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Drifting through the Multiverse, Yan Sen arrived in the strange yet "peaceful" world known as "Earth." However, the moment he set foot in that realm, reality itself shattered as a one-winged angel descended. Her face was calm, yet her eyes carried the fierce, protective look of a mother guarding...
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So counts can launch a golf ball 20 to 50km into the air, not sure if that gives anything useful, KE probably wouldn't be anything impressive, but idk if you could get lifting strength from that.
 
Standard golf ball mass : 45.93 grams (0.04593 kg).

gravity : 9.81 m/s²

Height : 50,000 m.

Formula : Gravitational potential energy PE = mgh

PE = 0.04593 kg × 9.81 m/s² × 50,000 m = 22,528.665 J ≈ 22,529 J.

TNT Equivalent
  • 1 ton of TNT ≈ 4.184 × 10⁹ Joules.
  • 22,529 J ≈ 0.00538 kg (5.38 grams) of TNT

I think this is Class 5 ? But I am using Potential Energy without factoring air resistance
 
I really cannot get air drag or anything else

Yuusha Gives us the strangest feats at the oddest times. Watch one of the Peak Counts bring up a golf ball with the weight of a Bowling ball and hit it with 500,000 metre distance
 
Is that the first mention of kinetic energy in the verse? Can we use KE calcs then for every feat? :devilish:
 
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Amel moving at Mach 245 Speed clears btw ✌️


Although... how much KE is needed for Lilia moving at below FTL speeds before even becoming a count rank ?

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Her observable speed is 1/200 millionth of a second
 
Lilia speed approaches the speed of light, so that can't be used.

Amel probably is usuable since its only mach 245, and from memory she specifically used barriers to stop the destruction her speed would cause, from memory though the results came out to city level, but its been a while since I looked at that.
 
Does she break KE ? I thought her speed was lower in that scan because its talking about her observable speed which is 2/3rd of SoL ?

This is assuming 1/3rd of SoL


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This is assuming 2/3rd of SoL (her observable speed)

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Celestial_Pegasus said:
Scratch what I said, re-read the KE page.

Regardless, would only be a minor upgrade.
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Btw do we use 1/3rd of SoL (her reaction speed) or 2/3rd of SoL (her observable speed) ?

We either get 7-B+ or 7-A (454 Megatons)

It kinda fits with how Barons are Mach Speed and Counts are SoL speed with how Physical Enhancement Magic and UES works.. I guess ?
 
Thinking about it, it wouldn't make sense for Lilia to be able to react slower than she can move, so honestly "observable speed" probably refers to perception speed, she can react at 1/3 sol, but perceive things moving at 2/3 sol.

In which case her reaction speed should be used for KE.
 
BoastJr said:
Standard golf ball mass : 45.93 grams (0.04593 kg).

gravity : 9.81 m/s²

Height : 50,000 m.

Formula : Gravitational potential energy PE = mgh

PE = 0.04593 kg × 9.81 m/s² × 50,000 m = 22,528.665 J ≈ 22,529 J.

TNT Equivalent
  • 1 ton of TNT ≈ 4.184 × 10⁹ Joules.
  • 22,529 J ≈ 0.00538 kg (5.38 grams) of TNT

I think this is Class 5 ? But I am using Potential Energy without factoring air resistance
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You need to convert to LS
F = W / h
So
22,529 ÷ 50,000 m
= 0.45 N
So Below average human
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Unfortunately you can't use F=M.A because we don't have a good idea of the time taken, also do note throwing feats are essentially the weight of the thing that you are throwing (unless you have a good timeframe to use ½mv² or F= M.A)
 
Also you guys probably know this but to use KE values for AP using Relativistic or any type of speed close to SOL there must be some type of impact on the environment iirc like in case of Dabura (you need those for AP & Durability afaik)
 
Celestial_Pegasus said:
Just realized something else, Amel had to specifically set up countermeasures to not affect her surroundings when moving at mach 245, KE is very much a thing here, using her speed and the average weight of a woman, comes out to wait for it...... 6 Megatons, which is City level, like it's stupidly consistent how strong Count levels are.

Side note i love how the officials of the kingdom were freaking out about a count rank landing in their city, but were just like whatever it's just Kaito, when they found out where it landed.
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Wouldn't this imply some sort of enviromental damage ?

Its not unique to Amel and there is more extreme examples of Isis destroying the world via breaking KE formula (moving beyond 10x SoL)

So It does kinda loop back to making sense ? Since its implied they do impact enviroment if they move too fast
 
Cipher72 said:
You need to convert to LS
F = W / h
So
22,529 ÷ 50,000 m
= 0.45 N
So Below average human
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Unfortunately you can't use F=M.A because we don't have a good idea of the time taken, also do note throwing feats are essentially the weight of the thing that you are throwing (unless you have a good timeframe to use ½mv² or F= M.A)
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This is sad, though it seems relatively quick.
 
@Legacy30 Yea was going to mention that, I initially thought she was Count Rank, but it's only said she has a peerage rank, so without evidence Baron Rank, and we know they can destroy mountains.

Viscounts which is what Lilia's KE would scale to, would just get above them.
 
It's interesting how the characters when they rarely fight, do so in some sort of barrier/special area, and 6 Kings like Isis who causally move way faster than 10xsol, can destroy the world by movement speed alone.

The throwing feat may not get us lifting strength, but we can add it to Count Rank range I guess.
 
Yuusha Gaiden also showcases Baron Ranks and Viscounts being Genius tiers

Yet Counts are normally unreachable even when Viscount Dude trained for 10,000 years only got to Viscount Level at best

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Also Funfact ! If we divide Count-Rank Speed (Speed of Light) with Amel's Speed (Mach 245) we do get 3,567.4 times multiplier !
 
Celestial_Pegasus said:
It's interesting how the characters when they rarely fight, do so in some sort of barrier/special area, and 6 Kings like Isis who causally move way faster than 10xsol, can destroy the world by movement speed alone.

The throwing feat may not get us lifting strength, but we can add it to Count Rank range I guess.
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Yeah !

Except for the War Arc we only got a few real fights like Isis vs Iris

Actually... all the crazy stuff happens with Iris so who knows 😭

Also loving the Golf section because we are getting some minor skill feats since they need alot of calculating power to determine how a ball from 20,000 metre would fall to while accounting wind and trajectory
 
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