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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

CastoriceTheFifth said:
All I want is to declare Honkai/Imaginary Energy as being able to bypass Servant Invulnerability on this site. It'd be the FIRST energy system on this site to actually do this.
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Don't think that's entirely possible
Yes they're powered by imaginary energy/Honkai energy in star rail
But they're also nerfed in Hoyo verse and as far as I recall
Fate servants don't keep their invulnerability in the Honkai star rail collab and with context that they're severely weakened but their bodies are using another source. It makes sense as to why they can be hit.
So you're not getting HE/IE bypassing it.
These aren't lore accurate servants which have it,
This is like servant verse in a way
 
Zanesucksatlife said:
Don't think that's entirely possible
Yes they're powered by imaginary energy/Honkai energy in star rail
But they're also nerfed in Hoyo verse and as far as I recall
Fate servants don't keep their invulnerability in the Honkai star rail collab and with context that they're severely weakened but their bodies are using another source. It makes sense as to why they can be hit.
So you're not getting HE/IE bypassing it.
These aren't lore accurate servants which have it,
This is like servant verse in a way
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I was going to say that these versions probably don’t have the invul cuz anyone and everything can hurt them
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
all i got from this is conversation is that imaginary energy is literally the coolest ******* thing ever
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Cuz uhh imaginary...you imagine things...maybe


Mbpoops said:
More like nasu trying to figure out how tf servants work in a verse with no magic, gilgamesh EA is 1-A potency tho soooooo
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Easily my favorite part of the collab is the Servants trying to understand the vastly different world they are now in.
 
I love nasu fans because i can ask for a simple explanation of something and get essays of information to the most minute detail and it makes sense. Makes me a better reader
 
Nighting4l33yes said:
why cant img energy give invul
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Because. It's not canon versions of fate servants so (by canon I mean lore accurate)
No invulnerability.
AlternativePrinciple said:
I was going to say that these versions probably don’t have the invul cuz anyone and everything can hurt them
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Lol yep 🗿
+ It would be really weird if all of a sudden they can be hurt w/o the why
Like star rail would need to do it's best to say that
Imaginary energy can be 1:1 of mystic or Magecraft
Like the explanation star rail gives is just that fate servants can use another form of energy that severely weakens them, from what they're used to
And since weakened
They can't reap the abilities they get from their lore accurate
 
Zanesucksatlife said:
Don't think that's entirely possible
Yes they're powered by imaginary energy/Honkai energy in star rail
But they're also nerfed in Hoyo verse and as far as I recall
Fate servants don't keep their invulnerability in the Honkai star rail collab and with context that they're severely weakened but their bodies are using another source. It makes sense as to why they can be hit.
So you're not getting HE/IE bypassing it.
These aren't lore accurate servants which have it,
This is like servant verse in a way
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The difference is that in Servant verse, Mystery is completely dead. In Honkai, Mystery does exists and that it was created by Oti through the Holy Grail via Honkai Energy
 
All we know is that they substituted Magic with another energy source (not confirmed by its definitely IE)


The Servants can still use their powers normally, but they suffer from needing to consume more energy than usual due to the lack of mana.

So they should still have Invul unless stated otherwise
 
Doggo said:
All we know is that they substituted Magic with another energy source (not confirmed by its definitely IE)


The Servants can still use their powers normally, but they suffer from needing to consume more energy than usual due to the lack of mana.

So they should still have Invul unless stated otherwise
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Funny thing is its not impossible to delcare this because their invulnerability literally comes from being a 4D soul and that they are divine mysteries.

You can harm them if "unless they are infused with a supernatural aspect such as magical energy or possess a certain amount of age." Honkai Energy should classify as this AND it has 11D range
 
SuperNova55555 said:
I want to finish Part 2 before doing that. And uh, plungin hasn’t played it either. So gonna take a bit. Might get around it during the summer
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I can also help when i finush p2 almost done with 1.5 just been distracted with work shinza and hsr
 
AlternativePrinciple said:
I was going to say that these versions probably don’t have the invul cuz anyone and everything can hurt them
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Why is the automatic assumption that they don’t have invulnerability. Honkai Energy is deemed as a suitable replacement to completely replace magical energy in order to create mystery to power the holy grail war and the servants.

Keep in mind for you to bypass servant invulnerability, your attack has to “be infused with a supernatural aspect like magical energy or has enough age”. Why would Honkai energy not classify as this.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
The difference is that in Servant verse, Mystery is completely dead. In Honkai, Mystery does exists and that it was created by Oti through the Holy Grail via Honkai Energy
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So still no Invulnerability , it doesn't matter if it's Honkai energy or imaginary energy.
Servants in the collab are severely weakened even using another form of energy,
Yes they can still use their abilities like normal but it doesn't matter.
These aren't lore accurate servants which retains their Invulnerability, these are severely weakened servants using another source of power for fuel
Yes it can be "mystery" but it's nothing like lore accurate
So again no invulnerability
Unless the game explicitly says and gives a better answer
But saber saying she is weakened and is using another source of power is already going against the whole "invulnerability" thing she has in lore accurate.
 
Zanesucksatlife said:
So still no Invulnerability , it doesn't matter if it's Honkai energy or imaginary energy.
Servants in the collab are severely weakened even using another form of energy,
Yes they can still use their abilities like normal but it doesn't matter.
These aren't lore accurate servants which retains their Invulnerability, these are severely weakened servants using another source of power for fuel
Yes it can be "mystery" but it's nothing like lore accurate
So again no invulnerability
Unless the game explicitly says and gives a better answer
But saber saying she is weakened and is using another source of power is already going against the whole "invulnerability" thing she has in lore accurate.
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When did saber say she was weakened..? The grail summons servants at a certain power rating for the given holy grail war
 
All I can recall is them needing to consume more energy to compensate their lack of mana

Aside from weaker stamina, they should still be the same as the orginals

Also can you really say they are weakened when they are literally stronger than their canon selves
 
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