Thragg fights a giant monster: Thragg (Invincible) vs Godzilla (Godzilla Final Wars)

[Bossbrosish]

Pre-Timeskip Thragg and Base Godzilla are being used. The battle takes place in New York, starting 30 meters apart with speed equalized.

Thragg's AP: 1.373 Zettatons of TNT

Thragg's LS: Class Z (68,908,161,289,999,998,976 Tonnes)

Godzilla's AP: 1.79 Zettatons

Godzilla's LS: 12.9922 million metric tons (Class G)

(1.3x difference in Godzilla's favor and Thragg has a 5.3 Trillion times LS advantage)

Thragg: 7 (Tahoy49574, Doggo, CitRusReality64, Planck69, Maikolpry, Apex_Predator_GX, Oiguana2701)

Godzilla: 4 (Maniaunavailable, JustANormalLemon, Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh, EnderLord8)


Draw: 0

 

[Maniaunavailable]

so this is basically a endurance battle, which in this case its hard to tell because goji tanked a meteor blast with no dmg, head on with no damage. Now godzilla radation can go till like 100,000,000 which is what pulvirized thragg, and also made him act and react slower, and as we know godzilla own body can withstand and store this energy. So with all that in mind, I think godzilla takes this, because of just how many radation the big ahhh lizard has stored

 

[CitRusReality64]

I think this would be a pretty tough fight, since Thragg massively upscales 1.3 Zettatons, and Godzilla is only 1.7 Zettatons. On top of Having Class Z LS, while Thragg wouldn't be able to grapple with Goji affectively since Godzilla is huge, Thragg can just carry Godzilla into space. Though, Goji does have SS, so I think he would be able to survive in space.

I'm going to say Goji wins, as he has some pretty potent heat hax, which Viltrumites are notably weak towards, however I'm betting it'd be a hard victory

 

[Bossbrosish]

so this is basically a endurance battle, which in this case its hard to tell because goji tanked a meteor blast with no dmg, head on with no damage. Now godzilla radation can go till like 100,000,000 which is what pulvirized thragg, and also made him act and react slower, and as we know godzilla own body can withstand and store this energy. So with all that in mind, I think godzilla takes this, because of just how many radation the big ahhh lizard has stored

I think this would be a pretty tough fight, since Thragg massively upscales 1.3 Zettatons, and Godzilla is only 1.7 Zettatons. On top of Having Class Z LS, while Thragg wouldn't be able to grapple with Goji affectively since Godzilla is huge, Thragg can just carry Godzilla into space. Though, Goji does have SS, so I think he would be able to survive in space.

I'm going to say Goji wins, as he has some pretty potent heat hax, which Viltrumites are notably weak towards, however I'm betting it'd be a hard victory

I'm assuming these are votes for Godzilla?

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

following

 

[Tahoy49574]

so this is basically a endurance battle, which in this case its hard to tell because goji tanked a meteor blast with no dmg, head on with no damage. Now godzilla radation can go till like 100,000,000 which is what pulvirized thragg, and also made him act and react slower, and as we know godzilla own body can withstand and store this energy. So with all that in mind, I think godzilla takes this, because of just how many radation the big ahhh lizard has stored

Ngl, it's kind of insane to give all Godzillas scaling to '54 with how different they all are to him across continuities. Also Thragg wasn't slowed down at all by the heat of the sun, he just wanted to catch Mark off guard (who btw, tanked 122,411,171°C in a far weaker state)

 

[Tahoy49574]

I think this would be a pretty tough fight, since Thragg massively upscales 1.3 Zettatons, and Godzilla is only 1.7 Zettatons. On top of Having Class Z LS, while Thragg wouldn't be able to grapple with Goji affectively since Godzilla is huge, Thragg can just carry Godzilla into space. Though, Goji does have SS, so I think he would be able to survive in space.

If he can't come back then it's still a Thragg win

 

[Tahoy49574]

Also, can we acknowledge Thragg's scaling is ripping people who scale to that value apart like paper ? He can even behead someone who already AP stomps those guys. Godzilla does not have the AP advantage at all. Besides that he's a smaller target, has flight and faster travel speed, regeneration, endurance that allows him to fight with severe injuries like his skin being incinerated, and he's gonna ragdoll Godzilla with that LS difference.

I vote Thragg

 

[CitRusReality64]

Ngl, it's kind of insane to give all Godzillas scaling to '54 with how different they all are to him across continuities. Also Thragg wasn't slowed down at all by the heat of the sun, he just wanted to catch Mark off guard (who btw, tanked 122,411,171°C in a far weaker state)

I mean, Final Wars is kind of connected to 54. FW is just a version of 54 who survived the OD.

If he can't come back then it's still a Thragg win

He can still fight in space as he has a range advantage with the beam, additionally Goji can also just do a pulse like he did to Keizer Ghidorah should Thragg try to carry him into space.

Also, can we acknowledge Thragg's scaling is ripping people who scale to that value apart like paper ? Godzilla does not have the AP advantage at all. Besides that he's a smaller target, has flight, regeneration, endurance that allows him to fight with severe injuries like his skin being incinerated, and he's gonna ragdoll Godzilla with that LS difference.

I vote Thragg

Yeah, I never said that Godzilla is stronger, but also it should be noted Godzilla upscales his 1.7 Zettatons too since all his stuff is very casual. But yeah, you probably are right, Thragg is stronger

 

[Tahoy49574]

He can still fight in space as he has a range advantage with the beam

I mean, Thragg's dodged multiple shots of the Space Racer so it's not that much of an advantage

 

[Tahoy49574]

Change to Tech Jacket or Allen, those guys rarely get matchups

 

[CitRusReality64]

I mean, Thragg's dodged multiple shots of the Space Racer so it's not that much of an advantage

The thing, Godzilla's beam has much large AOE than the ray. And his pulses are still omnidirectional

 

[Maniaunavailable]

Ngl, it's kind of insane to give all Godzillas scaling to '54 with how different they all are to him across continuities. Also Thragg wasn't slowed down at all by the heat of the sun, he just wanted to catch Mark off guard (who btw, tanked 122,411,171°C in a far weaker state)

its literally on the page lol, and the beam iirc, its 100,000,000 plus the multiplier of the heat ray which was hot enough to damage gorath, so if thragg gets near the thing he literally dies, add that it has an AOE big enough to destroy a small planetary metoritie in size iirc. he also has a pulse, which he can use on command, which would also desintrigate any viltrumate on the spot. Godzilla also has endured things that harm him more than just punches, like gidhora beams, so yeah godzilla has this still imo-

edit: also because of the energy he has stored in final wars, which is a whole lot, he should have passive healing, or at least healing. So am pretty confident he can tank thragg punches

 

[Bossbrosish]

I'd like to point out Godzilla has this: Accelerated Development/Adaptation and Reactive Evolution (Battle and Training; Physical Stats and Abilities - Grows stronger every time he fights and can become stronger in the midst of combat..Shown during the fight with Kaiser Ghidorah, Godzilla just kept growing stronger the longer he fought)

Godzilla would just grow as the fight goes on, potentially to the point Godzilla could overwhelm Thragg. Sure, Thragg has his smart atoms but Godzilla's evolution is better.

 

[Maniaunavailable]

I'd like to point out Godzilla has this: Accelerated Development/Adaptation and Reactive Evolution (Battle and Training; Physical Stats and Abilities - Grows stronger every time he fights and can become stronger in the midst of combat..Shown during the fight with Kaiser Ghidorah, Godzilla just kept growing stronger the longer he fought)

Godzilla would just grow as the fight goes on, potentially to the point Godzilla could overwhelm Thragg. Sure, Thragg has his smart atoms but Godzilla's evolution is better.

add his healing while at it

 

[Maniaunavailable]

bump

 

[JustANormalLemon]

GODZILLA FRA

 

[Doggo]

What is stopping Thragg from ripping the giant lizard apart with his massive LS advantage?

 

[Maniaunavailable]

What is stopping Thragg from ripping the giant lizard apart with his massive LS advantage?

he cant tear him apart, godzilla has survived head on small planetary metorites with no dmg, not even a schratch, also if thragg even comes close his pulse is hotter than the sun so thragg just dies

 

[Doggo]

he cant tear him apart, godzilla has survived head on small planetary metorites with no dmg, not even a schratch, also if thragg even comes close his pulse is hotter than the sun so thragg just dies

....Thragg severely upscales from 1.373 Zettatons of TNT, while Gojira's durability is only 1.79 Zettatons. At best, they would be equal.

Not sure why you are bringing up durability when that does not do anything to Thragg's superior LS. He can rip Gojira apart when his LS is 5.3 TRILLIONS times greater.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thragg_(Comics)#:~:text=Temperature%20Manipulation%20(Viltrumite,the%20sun)

Thragg can momentarily withstand heat hotter than stars. He simply needs to rip Gojira quickly, which he very much can with his smaller size and better LS.

 

[Bossbrosish]

....Thragg severely upscales from 1.373 Zettatons of TNT, while Gojira's durability is only 1.79 Zettatons. At best, they would be equal.

Not sure why you are bringing up durability when that does not do anything to Thragg's superior LS. He can rip Gojira apart when his LS is 5.3 TRILLIONS times greater.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thragg_(Comics)#:~:text=Temperature%20Manipulation%20(Viltrumite,the%20sun)

Thragg can momentarily withstand heat hotter than stars. He simply needs to rip Gojira quickly, which he very much can with his smaller size and better LS.

I'm pretty sure there is a staff thread debating about this. If I remember right from what I read, if a character has a massive lifting strength advantage but lacks the attack potency to match the opponent's durability, they can restrain or move them at will, but they cannot physically damage, crush, or rip them apart.

Here's the thread if anyone wants to look at it.

 

[Maniaunavailable]

....Thragg severely upscales from 1.373 Zettatons of TNT, while Gojira's durability is only 1.79 Zettatons. At best, they would be equal.

Not sure why you are bringing up durability when that does not do anything to Thragg's superior LS. He can rip Gojira apart when his LS is 5.3 TRILLIONS times greater.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thragg_(Comics)#:~:text=Temperature%20Manipulation%20(Viltrumite,the%20sun)

Thragg can momentarily withstand heat hotter than stars. He simply needs to rip Gojira quickly, which he very much can with his smaller size and better LS.

there was a staff thread that coverd this iirc if a character has a massive lifting strength advantage but lacks the attack potency to match the opponent's durability, they can restrain or move them at will, but they cannot damage him in any way. and either way he has healing, which iirc its insant due to how much radation he has

 

[Planck69]

I'm pretty sure there is a staff thread debating about this. If I remember right from what I read, if a character has a massive lifting strength advantage but lacks the attack potency to match the opponent's durability, they can restrain or move them at will, but they cannot physically damage, crush, or rip them apart.

Here's the thread if anyone wants to look at it.

Yes, but that's not the case here. That thread is mostly for cases like, "6-B, with Class Z LS, vs High 6-A with Class K LS".

Thragg is at least as strong if not slightly stronger than Godzilla. He is more than capable of ripping the latter apart.

Not voting one way or the other, just had to clarify that.

 

[Doggo]

Thragg's smaller size makes him nigh-impossible to hit, btw

This is just a human vs a fly with comparable AP but much higher LS.

Voting for the Grand Regent

 

[Emerald]

....Thragg severely upscales from 1.373 Zettatons of TNT, while Gojira's durability is only 1.79 Zettatons. At best, they would be equal.

Not sure why you are bringing up durability when that does not do anything to Thragg's superior LS. He can rip Gojira apart when his LS is 5.3 TRILLIONS times greater.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thragg_(Comics)#:~:text=Temperature%20Manipulation%20(Viltrumite,the%20sun)

Thragg can momentarily withstand heat hotter than stars. He simply needs to rip Gojira quickly, which he very much can with his smaller size and better LS.

Thragg is many one shots above this value btw, so yea he can rip Goji's flesh apart if he wants to

 

[CitRusReality64]

....Thragg severely upscales from 1.373 Zettatons of TNT, while Gojira's durability is only 1.79 Zettatons. At best, they would be equal.

Not sure why you are bringing up durability when that does not do anything to Thragg's superior LS. He can rip Gojira apart when his LS is 5.3 TRILLIONS times greater.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thragg_(Comics)#:~:text=Temperature%20Manipulation%20(Viltrumite,the%20sun)

Thragg can momentarily withstand heat hotter than stars. He simply needs to rip Gojira quickly, which he very much can with his smaller size and better LS.

He can't grapple with Godzilla at all because of how much larger Godzilla is, he can only carry him in which Godzilla can just pusle him should that happen. Also, Godzilla's feats are all very casual so he upscales his 1.7 zettatons

 

[Doggo]

He can't grapple with Godzilla at all because of how much larger Godzilla is, he can only carry him in which Godzilla can just pusle him should that happen. Also, Godzilla's feats are all very casual so he upscales his 1.7 zettatons

I am talking about LS, not AP. Thragg is literally 5 trillion times stronger than Gojira in terms of LS. Size ain't saving him from Thragg grabbing his upper jaw and pulling it upwards, or fricking tossing him into space, or snapping his neck

 

[EnderLord8]

I think I'll vote for Godzilla for now; the arguments in their favor seem better.

 

[Doggo]

Thragg's advantages

+Smaller size and flight make him nigh-impossible for Godzilla to land a single hit. Stuff like the Atomic Breath would be very easy to predict and dodge
+Is 5 TRILLIONS time higher in terms of LS, meaning he can literally rip the lizard apart with ease or BFR it into space
+Has enough heat resistance to withstand Godzilla's heat
+Massive skill, experience, and intelligence advantage.
+Like Godzilla, he severely upscales from his AP value, so they are equal in AP anyway.
+Regeneration makes it so that any damage Godzilla deals would just disappear.

Godzilla's only advantage here is AD, but all that does is give him the AP edge, but that won't be enough to cover a literally 5 trillion times difference in LS. Thragg would also kill him before Godzilla has the chance to become too strong for him to handle.

 

[CitRusReality64]

Thragg's advantages

+Smaller size and flight make him nigh-impossible for Godzilla to land a single hit. Stuff like the Atomic Breath would be very easy to predict and dodge

Speed is equalized so the smaller size isn't really an advantage. This version of Godzilla has shown to be able to track smaller targets fairly easily

 

[AyOgUyS]

Hold on. Doesn't Thragg literally ONE SHOT people on his value, like literally tearing them apart casually. Why can't he like zoom towards Godzilla, burrow into goji's chest and just tear up his organs? And that LS difference is astronomical, Thragg can literally send Godzilla flying into outer space which he did against Nolan...

 

[Planck69]

Thragg does have heat and radiation resistance, it's just that it allows him to hold on for a decent while, as opposed to permanently no-selling it and it is currently higher than Godzilla's value. So I don't know where these arguments of Godzilla irradiating Thragg to death comes from.

I see him tossing Godzilla into space and/or ripping his flesh apart before he succumbs to the radiation. Like, the value on the page is held by a character Thragg instantly rips the head off of faster than other relative characters can react.

Thragg should take this.

 

[CitRusReality64]

Voting for Thragg

 

[EnderLord8]

Thragg's advantages

+Smaller size and flight make him nigh-impossible for Godzilla to land a single hit. Stuff like the Atomic Breath would be very easy to predict and dodge

Speed is equalized; a human has difficulty hitting a fly because of the fly's speed advantage, while flying insects with speeds comparable to a human are relatively easy to hit. But this can vary depending on the difference in size and senses used to locate the insect.

+Has enough heat resistance to withstand Godzilla's heat

He was vaporized by spending too much time inside the core of a star, considering the temperature Godzilla is able to reach, the time necessary for exposure to heat in which he can survive is much lower.

+Like Godzilla, he severely upscales from his AP value, so they are equal in AP anyway.

In fact, from what I saw in the scale and value chain, he would be slightly weaker, but not enough to matter that much.

+Regeneration makes it so that any damage Godzilla deals would just disappear.

This confuses me a bit, because from what I've seen in Invincible's battles, regeneration almost never helps in a fight due to the time it takes to regenerate, except for the case where he fought for days against Battle Beast. Is there any other situation where his regeneration was useful in battle?

 

[AyOgUyS]

Speed is equalized; a human has difficulty hitting a fly because of the fly's speed advantage, while flying insects with speeds comparable to a human are relatively easy to hit. But this can vary depending on the difference in size and senses used to locate the insect.

Correction: Humans are actually faster than flies.

 

[Bossbrosish]

Ok, I updated the vote tally

 

[Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh]

Thragg's advantages

+Smaller size and flight make him nigh-impossible for Godzilla to land a single hit. Stuff like the Atomic Breath would be very easy to predict and dodge
+Is 5 TRILLIONS time higher in terms of LS, meaning he can literally rip the lizard apart with ease or BFR it into space
+Has enough heat resistance to withstand Godzilla's heat
+Massive skill, experience, and intelligence advantage.
+Like Godzilla, he severely upscales from his AP value, so they are equal in AP anyway.
+Regeneration makes it so that any damage Godzilla deals would just disappear.

Godzilla's only advantage here is AD, but all that does is give him the AP edge, but that won't be enough to cover a literally 5 trillion times difference in LS. Thragg would also kill him before Godzilla has the chance to become too strong for him to handle.

Godzilla has instinctive reaction

 

[Planck69]

Ok, I updated the vote tally

I also voted, in my second post.

 

[Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh]

Thragg does have heat and radiation resistance, it's just that it allows him to hold on for a decent while, as opposed to permanently no-selling it and it is currently higher than Godzilla's value. So I don't know where these arguments of Godzilla irradiating Thragg to death comes from.

I see him tossing Godzilla into space and/or ripping his flesh apart before he succumbs to the radiation. Like, the value on the page is held by a character Thragg instantly rips the head off of faster than other relative characters can react.

Thragg should take this.

Thragg and Invincible survived being inside the Sun for a short time, but the scene also clearly shows that extreme heat and radiation eventually damage Viltrumites. Their resistance is very high, but not limitless.

Because of that, attacks like Godzilla’s Hyper Spiral Heat Ray, which are vastly more intense than normal nuclear attacks, could potentially overwhelm Thragg before he gets the chance to overpower Godzilla in close combat.

 

[Ztesrxgdfjcvgkbh]

Also Godzilla FRA