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Cm2 and time question
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AlipheeseXIV
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Yeah CM2 primarily is about the concept in question governing all reality within their area of influence, Ichibei from Bleach is a prime example who's officially listed on the page. He has CM2 but it isn't unbound by time or anything, so I don't see why a concept being dependent on time would make it's CM2 inapplicable, hell DBH has CM1 with time power so it can be a varied thing
AlipheeseXIV
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So as long as the CM2 in question follows the guidelines of shaping everything within it's area of influence, I think it should be aight. Maybe wanna wait for more opinions though
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Can scale anywhere on this wiki but ya if its shown to be so
Yes? This wouldnt inherently contridct anything.
AlipheeseXIV
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Wdym? Concepts that are 1A are type 1 by default, L1A is a different story and is a bit more context dependent
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i guess any character with time manip has cm 2 now because time is an abstract thing
CM is getting a revision
CM is getting a revision
AlipheeseXIV
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What is bro talking abouti guess any character manipulating time has cm 2 now
CM is getting a revision
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broWhat is bro talking about
if time is an abstract thing that means anyone with time hax has cm 2
AlipheeseXIV
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Tf...you tryna tell me time is not abstract and is physical? Lmao, I think you misunderstood the point of the thread, he was not asking if time itself qualifies for CM2 he was asking if a CM2 that is not independent of time would possess that as an anti feat for it not being a universal dependent concept. Nowhere in this QnA did anyone say "manipulating time is CM2" or anything remotely resembling such a claim, and if you really wanna go there the huge asterisk that is DBH time power exists, so...
AlipheeseXIV
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I can get behind that CM revision though, granted I have absolutely no idea where it'll go if it's just made out of spite in a vs matchup
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i dont disagree
the 1st question is literally, "1. Is time generally considered a universal concept on the wiki?"
AlipheeseXIV
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You right actually lol, maybe I just understood the question differently, I believe he meant universal dependent concept (as in CM2 having an antifeat for the time stuff), which it can but it isn't assumed to be one by defaultthe 1st question is literally, "1. Is time generally considered a universal concept on the wiki?"
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AlipheeseXIV
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Anyways back to this, tbh I'm not so sure myself. I have the opinion that due to how L1A functions as a tier (transcending dimensions/spacetime) that a L1A concept would have to be a universal, as it would exist independently of reality and what it governs. Probably some staff has something to say regarding that though since I'm not like a knowledgeable member on CM standards or anything, I just spoke about it at length with a couple of people before
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Youre beyond time/space/ dimensions etc.
Doesnt mean your very nature is technically higher then those lower realms to a point of irreducibility is how i interprete it.
AlipheeseXIV
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Well you don't need that for CM1 to begin with let alone CM2, at least not in the way you're thinking, otherwise all CM1 users would be 1A smurfs (they're not) Ultima talks about it a bit here
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I agree cm1 is honestly just encompassing everything within and remaining independent. I was apart of another thread that got a cm1 acceptance.
I dont inherently think predating every/ everything being within you is honestly enough proof to get any higher of a rating then what youre encompassing(you'll be more into that tier). Just needs more statements.
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concepts can even be type 1 and rely on other concepts to exist too. dont see why type 2 cant
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1. Yes, assume you are talking about general concept and not literal CM which the verse need to demonstrate it. Of course you can have a localized concept of time but Ultima think it is bullshit and DontTalk think it isn't
2. What MGQ said
2. What MGQ said
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