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Unpopular Opinions and (Friendly) Rant thread

Saying ur goodbye ur nice knowing you, or mentioning how u messed up and how you're gonna do without them in your life. If anything, it's just a way to maintain contact for one last time, you're gonna feel worse about it, just stop talking to him/her/them/xer whatever. You only delay your healing and moving on by writing to them.
Well, saying goodbye at least seems polite, and many people are able to maintain a healthy relationship even after breaking up.
 
I know im necroposting but games like Deepwoken, Arcane Odyssey, and Block Tales exists, you cant just ignore them because "it's on Roblox so it should be automatically be rejected by the site, sorry bro go to fcoc." They have their own original lore and well enough established world building it sucks if it's gonna be rejected because of where they are created. It sucks that we don't get treated equally for this.
Id rather we limit what type of games are allowed from there
 
I might have an unpopular opinion to give:

In line with trying to make life better for all beings, we should probably try to synthesise beneficial stuff (food, water, medicine, etc) out of non-living matter (or at least perhaps smaller-scale organisms (like stem-cell culture meat) rather than whole multicellular organisms where using non-living matter is impossible for a compromise) more when possible to reduce the risks of overly exploiting/subjugating, consuming, etc other living beings (both for their sake in terms of well-being/health/state of existence and our sake in terms of relying on living beings).

(Also I'm still wondering what would be the best way to prevent and deal with vices (alcohol, recreational drugs + smoking, etc etc) or stuff that is generally pleasure-inducing/addictive yet self-destructive/detrimental to health/well-being... I mostly keep coming back to the same idea of trying to restrict/limit usage cause prevention would be easier compared to recovery and treatment, both for the people engaging in said stuff and for other people who may potentially be negatively affected, but we still need to find ways to treat those who already have been affected by said stuff.)
prohibition does not work it failed in america, it will fail again.
Unless a specific research or scientific discovery is going to be immediately accessible to the public, this won't make a dent to our quality of life.
What would improve the life of the majority is the proletariat dismantling the system of the elite (capitalism).
like communism has worked so well.

Oh wait it has not.
 
I think people glaze the Ezio trilogy to an unreasonable degree just to shit on the modern AC slop, but at least the funny conspiracy theories in those games held up somewhat. Like the Templars inventing capitalism or the evil Abstergo Corp. owning Ubisoft.
 
Against capitalism? Must be a communist?

Quick! We must protect our Great CEO's 300 million dollar bonus! It will certainly trickle down unto us any time now!
cause normal people refer to the elite as the proletariat, and diminishing it totally is not a commie talking point.
 
am i seriously the only person here who has a healthy relationship with their exes
Well, saying goodbye at least seems polite, and many people are able to maintain a healthy relationship even after breaking up.
Hopefully healthy relationships with unrequited past romantic interests (who are now good friends or at least are on good terms) count too...?

(I never had a proper actual relationship welp (no first kiss either, virginity is still intact too of course, oof), I know a few of said past interests have good relationships of their own now, I hope they're all doing well.)
Unless a specific research or scientific discovery is going to be immediately accessible to the public, this won't make a dent to our quality of life.
What would improve the life of the majority is the proletariat dismantling the system of the elite (capitalism).
prohibition does not work it failed in america, it will fail again.

like communism has worked so well.

Oh wait it has not.
Metalballrun's also technically describing populism...
I've seen too many peeps on Reddit mentioning Prohibition failing, there's also still the ongoing drug wars too, but you should consider that other parts of the world have seen success in it (like Singapore imposing the death penalty or life imprisonment on recreational drug smugglers and recreational drug sellers)... then again, welp organised crime finding avenues in most parts of the world when dealing with illicit harmful substances/stuff + world being screwed up to the point more and more people turn to said substances for relief/reprieve instead of finding healthier alternatives (though at least more and more people should now also be aware of what is beneficial and what is detrimental to health)...

And speaking of ideologies, I could recommend the 8values quiz if you all are interested in finding out which ideology you're most aligned with
Then again, we can also discuss other societal stuff too...

Also has been posted here:
 
That's actually a bad word to use for describing pretty much anything, because it changes its meaning depending on what side are you talking about and how much you approve of that. I've seen a person been accused of being a populist meaning something not cool like doing stuff just to get votes, and the same person being called populist meaning something cool because he helped individuals. There are some philosophy, history and sociology materials discussing that

there's also still the ongoing drug wars too
Congratulations to the drugs who keep winning the most of the time racist drug wars
(this is a satire, just to be clear)
 
I know im necroposting but games like Deepwoken, Arcane Odyssey, and Block Tales exists, you cant just ignore them because "it's on Roblox so it should be automatically be rejected by the site, sorry bro go to fcoc." They have their own original lore and well enough established world building it sucks if it's gonna be rejected because of where they are created. It sucks that we don't get treated equally for this.
Why do you feel you should get treated equally on this?? I am so confused you are basically grandfathered in as a meduim we scale. The "lore" of these "games" is less indepth or unquie then some minecraft mods. The fact we let it on site is embrassing and they should have all been removed a long time ago. Its an acutal shame we scale such low quailty slop but deny other stuff. These are barely a step above me submitting some random unity slop game i find on itch.io. It does not belong on the main wiki. I think people have given up on that crusade cause all of the roblox suppoters are so disingenuous with scaling and annoying that is legit not worth interacting with.

this is besides my main point but if yall think you are doing a good job on scaling these "verses" yall need to have some real interospection yall get away with murder its crazy how poorly done basically every single roblox verse is. Dont act like yall are getting treated misfairly when NO IT SHOULDNT BE ON THE SITE and yall just wank game mechs to the moon. I do not respect the verses and I do not respect the work yall have done on it. We should 100% exile yall to fc/oc or alt battle wiki or wherever SCP is now, which while I dont think it should be on site either makes a hell of lot more sense then this embrassment. Better I keep ignoring yalls verse and not take a more indepth look if you want to keep it as poorly as scaled as it currently is.
 
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That's actually a bad word to use for describing pretty much anything, because it changes its meaning depending on what side are you talking about and how much you approve of that. I've seen a person been accused of being a populist meaning something not cool like doing stuff just to get votes, and the same person being called populist meaning something cool because he helped individuals. There are some philosophy, history and sociology materials discussing that


Congratulations to the drugs who keep winning the most of the time racist drug wars
(this is a satire, just to be clear)
Yeah I thought it'd make sense here cause it's usually meant to refer to supporting the proletariat and opposing the bourgeoisie.
Unless a specific research or scientific discovery is going to be immediately accessible to the public, this won't make a dent to our quality of life.
What would improve the life of the majority is the proletariat dismantling the system of the elite (capitalism).
 
philosophy, history and sociology
I'd definitely want to talk more about these topics in particular cause I literally did my bachelor's degree on sociology and psychology and studied history quite often from primary school to junior college/pre-university.
Philosophy I read about quite often too but mostly outside of the academic context.
 
Why do you feel you should get treated equally on this?? I am so confused you are basically grandfathered in as a meduim we scale. The "lore" of these "games" is less indepth or unquie then some minecraft mods. The fact we let it on site is embrassing and they should have all been removed a long time ago. Its an acutal shame we scale such low quailty slop but deny other stuff. These are barely a step above me submitting some random unity slop game i find on itch.io. It does not belong on the main wiki. I think people have given up on that crusade cause all of the roblox suppoters are so disingenuous with scaling and annoying that is legit not worth interacting with.

this is besides my main point but if yall think you are doing a good job on scaling these "verses" yall need to have some real interospection yall get away with murder its crazy how poorly done basically every single roblox verse is. Dont act like yall are getting treated misfairly when NO IT SHOULDNT BE ON THE SITE and yall just wank game mechs to the moon. I do not respect the verses and I do not respect the work yall have done on it. We should 100% exile yall to fc/oc or alt battle wiki or wherever SCP is now, which while I dont think it should be on site either makes a hell of lot more sense then this embrassment.
Make it a staff thread then, convince everyone that we shouldnt be here really. Basically turn it into a rule
 
Make it a staff thread then, convince everyone that we shouldnt be here really. Basically turn it into a rule
The solution is obvious. Make Nullscape the only Roblox verse allowed on the site because it's the only good game left on that dogshit platform.
 
The "lore" of these "games" is less indepth or unquie then some minecraft mods.
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dreams I just had. Good thing they're not real! I'm going to kill myself now.

Lowkey the type of gobbledygook
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John Fantastic Frontier has to survive when the
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and he is sent to investigate:


Most of the frontpage slop focuses on gameplay rather than lore. This becomes apparent when you understand what Roblox's primary userbase is, which I will describe below:
The fact we let it on site is embrassing and they should have all been removed a long time ago. Its an acutal shame we scale such low quailty slop but deny other stuff. These are barely a step above me submitting some random unity slop game i find on itch.io.
You're right.... so we should submit our favorite NICHE INDIE GAMES instead! Like JOHN CLOWDER'S WORKS (4 CCU)! And KHIMERA: DESTROY ALL MONSTER GIRLS (99 CCU at its peak).

Mobile games are a more apt comparison for Roblox's front page game quality. A good chunk of Roblox's playerbase are mobile players, and mobile players are almost always going to be little kids on their parent's tablets. By nature of this, the most optimal way to cash in on this (as opposed to "make a meaningful experience") is to make mobile game-esque slop. This has been well-documented, this is why many front-page games do not have much apparent lore nor' settings; it is a waste of time to develop thought-provoking dialogue when your playerbase does not give a damn about reading text.

You are thinking of "Steal a Brainrot" Roblox in your post when you are describing the quality of the slop, not "Flappy Men" Roblox or "Zeppelin Wars" Roblox. Starving artists are going to be overshadowed by the breadwinners. The breadwinners are going to have their game featured on the front page because it is advantageous for the Roblox corporation to feature absolute dookie fartwater sewer sludge on the front page because alllllll of the little piggies wiggle their toes in excitement and gobble it up, which makes Roblox millions of dollars in revenue. Even with that in mind, some of the front page games like Jailbreak or Blast Zone are pretty decent for what they are, idk why those would get lumped up in the "low-quality slop" category LOLLLLLLL.


Plenty of random RPG Maker Games are more comparable to the random itch.io slop you are alluding to; the game engine is easy to use (easier than Roblox) & there's a billion profiles for them on the wiki. I don't think anyone here would know about Mad Father or Ib is if PewDiePie and Markiplier never graced them with their presence. These would be droplets in the ebb & floe of time not unlike those itch.io games.
John Clowder's works are literally this; the VSbattles wiki unironically had more documentation about Middens than the game's actual wiki for the longest time, thanks to ArbitraryNumbers' work on the verse's profiles.

Deepwoken, on the other hand, has an unofficial "character planner" website complete with a 3D render of what your character will look like. The community made this for xheir favorite randomitchiounityslopesque game with no incentive from the devs btw.

all of the roblox suppoters are so disingenuous with scaling
yall just wank game mechs to the moon.
ULTRAKILL powerscalers will literally compare ingame missile projectiles to a giant punching and get 7-C to High 7-C for like an 8-B to 8-A feat, Deltarune literally has Tenna at 8-A for clapping his ******* hands faster than some electricity-looking projectiles. I used to wank my profiles just as badly as these people do now, Fantastic Frontier's characters were at City Block level because the knights in that game could swing their swords faster than electricity projectiles from a spellbook. Steve from Minecraft is 7-C because of the Ender Dragon running into diamonds and them disappearing with no apparent visual effects (PULVERIZEEDDDDDDDD OMGGGGG).

The player character from Elemental Battlegrounds is 7-C because the meteors they attack with are stated to be "overhead meteors", as in they're using their geokinesis to pull meteors from space to drop onto their enemies, and meteors would genuinely be that powerful if they fell into Earth's atmosphere without somehow breaking apart mid-fall. Do I think it's a bit silly they're 7-C without crazy showings of Environmental Destruction? Yeah, I do, and I would not mind them being lower either; I like it when there are more matchups to use for a character, and there's other feats to scale and decorate the profile with. This is an issue shared by most VSBattles profiles, not just 'blox verses.

Most of the garbage scaling you see in some the Roblox profiles is probably because they were not made by me. Barring this, PRESSURE's profiles seem pretty good for what they're worth, John Grace's profile seems well-made. John Fartattack's profile has a calc to its name and I was going to calculate every single ability he has at one point to play into the "high-effort profile for a dogwater game" joke, but I am too lazy.

I could scale John Fartattack's attacks to a shockwave or electrical attacks that are seen in game and get the vastly inflated results that you see in ULTRAKILL and some of Deltarune's characters. I did rough calcs on this; that would get John Fartattack to Large Town Level+ using the same reasoning those verses do for putting V1 at "Town level", or Tenna at "Multi City Block level". The precedent set by those two verses would probably allow it, but I'm not going to because that is the sort of stuff that makes people laugh at VSBattles wiki.
and annoying that is legit not worth interacting with.
Most of the annoyingness in versus threads was because of Arkansalter acting like a particularly silly individual in every thread he's been. I don't personally hate the guy, he's just a little inexperienced. Ask Kachon about it

this is besides my main point but if yall think you are doing a good job on scaling these "verses" yall need to have some real interospection yall get away with murder its crazy how poorly done basically every single roblox verse is.
The only profile that felt like getting away with murder was John Fartattack. I intend on making profiles for the protagonist of Tongue Battles and Human Burrito. John Human Burrito would devour your GOAT in a single bite btw.

I do not respect the verses and I do not respect the work yall have done on it.
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We should 100% exile yall to fc/oc or alt battle wiki or wherever SCP is now, which while I dont think it should be on site either makes a hell of lot more sense then this embrassment.
The only example I can think of is maybe Block Tales because it bases itself on the Roblox IP and can't exist with out it; even if you remove the R6/R15 blocky rigs that game has, you still have copyrighted concepts like "Roblox's history", or the Sword Fights on the Heights swords, or the "Noob" characters that exist in-verse that are specifically just Roblox's noobs.

A lot of the verses here can exist without the Roblox IP if you just replace the R6/R15 character rigs; Deepwoken, Arcane Odyssey, Fart Attack. You can replace the blocky character rigs and you end up with the same exact concept. There was a game that made the jump from Roblox to Unity with the same exact characters from the last game, and redesigned to not use the R6/R15 blocky rigs that Roblox lets you use. That game is infinitely better as a standalone experience on the Steam storefront that does not require an internet connection, has polished sprite work, and reworked character designs.

If you want a example of a dookie Roblox --> off-platform engine transition, here you go. What separates a 'blox game from a proper game is soul. I can port a Roblox game to steam and it could be complete cheeks if it's just a 1:1 port of a slop game with no changes. If you pour the same soul you put into that same 'blox game into the Steam version, you can end up introducing a new platform to a 'bloxgem.
Unturned is literally just Deadzone on Steam, and people ate that up. The game's premise is near-identical bar for a bunch of additions that were made well after its release; and all that needed to be done design-wise was to replace the R6/R15 character rigs with something else.
 
Deepwoken
Trust me on this, Deep wont be good as a steam game. Nobody is eating forced Permadeath outside of roblox. If u wanna make Deep work outside of its Niche roblox artstyle, unfortunately you gotta turn it into a gacha game like wuwa (which is basically what if deep would be as a standalone game).
 
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Trust me on this, Deep wont be good as a steam game. Nobody is eating forced Permadeath outside of roblox. If u wanna make Deep work outside of its Niche roblox artstyle, unfortunately you gotta turn it into a gacha game like wuwa (which is basically what if deep would be as a standalone game).
Realm of the Mad God has forced permadeath as a Roguelike MMO and people treat it like cocaine.
 
Finally someone called out Ebihara's bs. On top of that, let the scalers scale whatever they want, who tf are you to enforce your limits on EVERYONE?
 
Steve from Minecraft is 7-C because of the Ender Dragon running into diamonds and them disappearing with no apparent visual effects (PULVERIZEEDDDDDDDD OMGGGGG)
I mean, at least it's an actual destruction feat, unlike the other 3, which just abuse KE rules (also, last I checked, the Ender Dragon DOES produce explosion particles when it rams into stuff, so checkmate Steve haters, there ARE visual effects :cool:)

Ok, but in all seriousness, I agree with what you said 100%. There are games on Roblox that do genuinely belong on the wiki, and we can't ban an entire platform just because its front page is mostly slop content or the way they're scaled currently could be better
 
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