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Power Rangers General Discussion Thread

The purpose of this thread is to discuss all things Power Rangers.

But also, we need to use this thread to figure out how to fix the verse on the wiki. As such, we need to figure out the following;
  1. How to divide the profiles and continuities
  2. Create a short explanation for canon stuff and secondary canons
  3. New profiles
  4. New keys
  5. Scaling
    1. Find feats
    2. Figure out a scaling chain
  6. General profile fixes, like P&A

Episode link; https://www.youtube.com/c/PowerRangersOfficial/playlists
 
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I had this idea......since unmorphed Rangers now are Low 7C shouldn't that make basically every ranger L7C?
 
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Jayden Shiba (Power Rangers Samurai)

Template:Jayden Shiba Jayden Shiba serves as the Red Samurai Ranger and heads the Samurai Rangers team. As a descendant of an ancient samurai lineage, he commands the fire element and operates the Lion FoldingZord. Trained from a young age, Jayden initially acted as a stand-in leader to protect...
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Someone made a page for the glorious king
 
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Jayden Shiba (Power Rangers Samurai)

Template:Jayden Shiba Jayden Shiba serves as the Red Samurai Ranger and heads the Samurai Rangers team. As a descendant of an ancient samurai lineage, he commands the fire element and operates the Lion FoldingZord. Trained from a young age, Jayden initially acted as a stand-in leader to protect...
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Someone made a page for the glorious king
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It was deleted twice btw
 
Hey, I was reading through your PR series scaling since I'm trying to scale Nick Russell for a match up idea, and they've helped a lot, but I wanted to ask a few questions on some things.
1. Where I can find the Ranger RPG core rulebook scans?
2. How far away is the Netherworld from the Human World?
 
MaskKid said:
Hey, I was reading through your PR series scaling since I'm trying to scale Nick Russell for a match up idea, and they've helped a lot, but I wanted to ask a few questions on some things.
1. Where I can find the Ranger RPG core rulebook scans?
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You'll have to download them through some sites
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2. How far away is the Netherworld from the Human World?
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Netherworld is in a different dimension
 
Divini said:
You'll have to download them through some sites

Netherworld is in a different dimension
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Thanks homie. The Underworld one was bugging me for a bit. Now I just need to figure out if Necrolai flew or teleported there. You've been a great help for me scaling my dude Nick!
 
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Power Rangers Lost Galaxy CRT (We are lost in the galaxy)

Introduction No way, the Lost Galaxy CRT dropped after a bazillion years!!!! It took so long mostly because of real life stuff and just the supporters being lazy but hey! We are here, thankfully Lost Galaxy doesn't really do much for universal abilities or new keys for characters as its mostly...
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I have no idea why Nick got so glazed like his battlizer got overpowered by that sexy sphinx lady (would btw). Like do the mystic rangers even end up surpassing or matching their masters by the end of the series? Like the legendary warrior mode they probably surpass Solaris but then y'know ancient mystic mode so shit was unclear but what I'm trying to say is who the hell gives a dragon themed battlizer fcking batons as a weapon
 
So, I'm confused. We scale Zedd above Lokar and the Ultrazord, then of course the Zeo powers and Dark Spectre upscale from them via scaling them to Comics!Rita's feat of tapping into a comet to tap into a dimension beyond time and also the Power Eggs, but besides the comic feats and the show feats being different, the scaling has a massive hiccup.

The Power Eggs in Darkest Hour were presented as a power that could even the tide despite Mistress Vile and Incarnate Dark Spectre and stated to be a crystallized version of the Morphin' Grid itself, whereas the Zeo Crystal in the comic!verse is "a pure PIECE of the Morphin' Grid". And it's stated they'd need an entire planet of Zeo Crystals to equal the amplification effect of the two Power Eggs. And the end of the comic has Billy shatter the Morphin' Grid with ONE Egg and they need the entire planet of Zeo Crystals to restore the Grid.


Then in Across the Morphin' Grid, it's flat out said the Eggs are the universe itself. Not a metaphor, everything in the Boom!Comics universe came from and returns to those eggs.

So right now, the issue is our scaling is The Zeo Rangers with the Zeo Crystal< The Machine Empire Lokar, Ultrazord, Zedd<The Power Eggs/The Grid itself<A planet full of Zeo Crystals?
 
AerrowStorm1 said:
So, I'm confused. We scale Zedd above Lokar and the Ultrazord, then of course the Zeo powers and Dark Spectre upscale from them via scaling them to Comics!Rita's feat of tapping into a comet to tap into a dimension beyond time and also the Power Eggs, but besides the comic feats and the show feats being different, the scaling has a massive hiccup.

The Power Eggs in Darkest Hour were presented as a power that could even the tide despite Mistress Vile and Incarnate Dark Spectre and stated to be a crystallized version of the Morphin' Grid itself, whereas the Zeo Crystal in the comic!verse is "a pure PIECE of the Morphin' Grid". And it's stated they'd need an entire planet of Zeo Crystals to equal the amplification effect of the two Power Eggs. And the end of the comic has Billy shatter the Morphin' Grid with ONE Egg and they need the entire planet of Zeo Crystals to restore the Grid.


Then in Across the Morphin' Grid, it's flat out said the Eggs are the universe itself. Not a metaphor, everything in the Boom!Comics universe came from and returns to those eggs.

So right now, the issue is our scaling is The Zeo Rangers with the Zeo Crystal< The Machine Empire Lokar, Ultrazord, Zedd<The Power Eggs/The Grid itself<A planet full of Zeo Crystals?
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We scale the Zeo Crystals above everything seen before because its pretty consistently stated across media. The power eggs' true strength remained pretty secret (Aside from everyone knowing it has L2C capabilities) but it is very contradictory to every statement established on the Zeo Crystals (even if were to equal its strength to a planet of zeo crystals). Also from what i saw, evening the tide against them seems more hax than anything? need to re-read the run eventually

i don't remember that well the darkest hour event to be honest but the scaling is
Lokar<Ultrazord<Zedd<Zeo machine empire whatever
 
Divini said:
We scale the Zeo Crystals above everything seen before because its pretty consistently stated across media. The power eggs' true strength remained pretty secret (Aside from everyone knowing it has L2C capabilities) but it is very contradictory to every statement established on the Zeo Crystals (even if were to equal its strength to a planet of zeo crystals). Also from what i saw, evening the tide against them seems more hax than anything? need to re-read the run eventually

i don't remember that well the darkest hour event to be honest but the scaling is
Lokar<Ultrazord<Zedd<Zeo machine empire whatever
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Easy fix for the contradiction: The Power Eggs were lost forever, first by them being thrown into the ocean, and later by being returned to the Morphin' Masters, so they're off the board permanently as the "most powerful artifact" and the Zeo Crystal, as a pure shard of morphin' grid energy, is once again the most powerful source of energy when you don't have any way to access "Literally the Morphin' Grid itself in egg form".

For example, in the comics universe, Billy finds and returns the Eggs to the Morphin' Masters before Tommy completes his doctorate. Placing this pre-Dino Thunder, and then the next story, where Tanya calls the Zeo crystals the strongest source of power in the universe and a gateway to the Morphin' Grid itself takes place long after SPA has been built and Aishia and Adam have been working there and Tanya and Adam have been dating long enough to be engaged, which places it sometime around Once and Always.
 
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Easy fix for the contradiction: The Power Eggs were lost forever, first by them being thrown into the ocean, and later by being returned to the Morphin' Masters, so they're off the board permanently as the "most powerful artifact" and the Zeo Crystal, as a pure shard of morphin' grid energy, is once again the most powerful source of energy when you don't have any way to access "Literally the Morphin' Grid itself in egg form"
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when were they returned to the masters? idr

I don't think that fixes the contradiction no, especially when time travelling exists and all that. Also the narrative that the Zeo Crystal is the big bad is the same regardless of the availability of the Power Eggs. Also it is just a crystalized version of the morphin grid so i wouldn't compare it to the Grid itself fully
 
tho that tells me when it's time for major AP-Cosmology revisions i need to make a blog or a section dedicated to the tier 2 statistics of the Zeo Crystals and the scaling of the Power Eggs

But that doesn't come anytime soon because we are prioritizing the revisions/profiles of every PR season up to cosmic fury
 
Divini said:
when were they returned to the masters? idr

I don't think that fixes the contradiction no, especially when time travelling exists and all that. Also the narrative that the Zeo Crystal is the big bad is the same regardless of the availability of the Power Eggs. Also it is just a crystalized version of the morphin grid so i wouldn't compare it to the Grid itself fully
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I hear you but that is still the entire plot of Darkest Hour.

They call the Eggs "A crystalized version of the Morphin' Grid itself", state that using them could destabilize the entire grid, call the readings Morphinomenal, Billy breaking a single one of the eggs caused a shattering that erased Grace, Kiya and Coinless Trini from reality and drove back Dark Spectre, and they had to use the Zeo Crystal Planet from Beyond the Grid to repair the same thing. A ton of ink is spilled hyping up the eggs as this unknown, dangerous, never before seen power.

I also don't remember the Zeo Crystal being expressed as the Biggest Source when the Eggs were active and available.
The Eggs only appeared in Big Sisters and fell back into the sea in the same episode, with it being stated the ancestors of the Morphin' Masters would protect it as long as it was there ("Millions of years ago, ancient sorcerers, Who called themselves the morphing masters, Hid a universe of power within two mystic power eggs.
By casting the eggs into the sea, The sorcerers believed their ancestors would look down on the eggs and protect them from universal danger") and only a kid can open the box to retrieve them. So they're gone for good and protected from "universal danger".

Then Master Vile shows up with the Zeo Crystal all the way in Season 3, long after the Eggs are gone.

In the comics, the eggs don't show up until Darkest Hour where we get the talk about the Eggs and them being considered this epic power. Then one is cracked open by Billy, the other is safe, Darkest Hour happens, and Billy returns the eggs to the Morphin' Masters sometime before Tommy finishes his doctorate.

Again, I know a LOT of ink was spilled about the Zeo Crystal being the end all be all, but the only way Darkest Hour makes sense is if we assume it is the most powerful IF THE POWER EGGS ARE PERMANRNTLY OFF THE TABLE.
 
AerrowStorm1 said:
I hear you but that is still the entire plot of Darkest Hour.

They call the Eggs "A crystalized version of the Morphin' Grid itself", state that using them could destabilize the entire grid, call the readings Morphinomenal, Billy breaking a single one of the eggs caused a shattering that erased Grace, Kiya and Coinless Trini from reality and drove back Dark Spectre, and they had to use the Zeo Crystal Planet from Beyond the Grid to repair the same thing. A ton of ink is spilled hyping up the eggs as this unknown, dangerous, never before seen power.
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Yes a crystalized version of the Grid which doesn't really scale it to the Grid by itself. Destabilizing the Grid is hardly a feat knowing magic by itself can do that too. Again, it's true strength were pretty unknown, its universal shattering strength was pretty known, and that same universe destroying power was called insignificant times and times again compared to other stuff. The erasure and allat sound more like hax which makes sense since its true strength is similar to the grid after all

The Zeo Crystal world can do the same across the whole multiverse, that's why these powers are unstable and can't be used properly
AerrowStorm1 said:
I also don't remember the Zeo Crystal being expressed as the Biggest Source when the Eggs were active and available.
The Eggs only appeared in Big Sisters and fell back into the sea in the same episode, with it being stated the ancestors of the Morphin' Masters would protect it as long as it was there ("Millions of years ago, ancient sorcerers, Who called themselves the morphing masters, Hid a universe of power within two mystic power eggs.
By casting the eggs into the sea, The sorcerers believed their ancestors would look down on the eggs and protect them from universal danger") and only a kid can open the box to retrieve them. So they're gone for good and protected from "universal danger".
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They were lost into the sea, which all aliens know btw and were never mentioned again. They aren't gone for good it's just not worth getting them when its a hustle and there's obviously a far superior power (Zeo Crystal). Many guidebook statements also call them superior to everything and even Turbo powers were called superior everything before, its not just the character statements. Also the protect statement is super false and doesn't mean they are lost forever
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Then Master Vile shows up with the Zeo Crystal all the way in Season 3, long after the Eggs are gone.
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but......they aren't
AerrowStorm1 said:
In the comics, the eggs don't show up until Darkest Hour where we get the talk about the Eggs and them being considered this epic power. Then one is cracked open by Billy, the other is safe, Darkest Hour happens, and Billy returns the eggs to the Morphin' Masters sometime before Tommy finishes his doctorate.
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They do show up technically since the comics do follow the tv structure episodes but then they appear again in the darkest hour which they reveal the insides which is a crystalized grid thingie
AerrowStorm1 said:
Again, I know a LOT of ink was spilled about the Zeo Crystal being the end all be all, but the only way Darkest Hour makes sense is if we assume it is the most powerful IF THE POWER EGGS ARE PERMANRNTLY OFF THE TABLE.
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which again they aren't off the table. The Zeo Crystal being the end all be all is a far more consistent and major plot point than the Darkest Hour
 
Divini said:
They aren't gone for good it's just not worth getting them when its a hustle and there's obviously a far superior power (Zeo Crystal)
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I'm sorry. What?

The episode treats them as gone forever as Rita FREAKS when she realizes they fell back into the sea and treats it like this massive loss she'll never be able to get again



"To ensure the safety of the chest, Only the touch of an innocent child, like maria, Can open the magical container. Well zordon, what do you think we should do? You must save the girl. Then return the power eggs to the sea. If rita gets hold of them, She will become so powerful she will never be stopped."

"Stop! Wait! My power eggs! Don't let them go! They're floating away! Stop them!"

"I'll let her go as soon as you bring me the power eggs! Yeah, power eggs. [Clucking and laughing]"

"All right, rita. You've lost the power eggs!"

That's not "it's a hassle" language, that's "it's gone for good" language.
Divini said:
Also the protect statement is super false and doesn't mean they are lost forever
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That's....literally what the episode said. The only plot hole is how they got out of the sea and into the cave Rita found them in, but meh. It's season 1 Power Rangers.
 
AerrowStorm1 said:
I'm sorry. What?

The episode treats them as gone forever as Rita FREAKS when she realizes they fell back into the sea and treats it like this massive loss she'll never be able to get again



"To ensure the safety of the chest, Only the touch of an innocent child, like maria, Can open the magical container. Well zordon, what do you think we should do? You must save the girl. Then return the power eggs to the sea. If rita gets hold of them, She will become so powerful she will never be stopped."

"Stop! Wait! My power eggs! Don't let them go! They're floating away! Stop them!"

"I'll let her go as soon as you bring me the power eggs! Yeah, power eggs. [Clucking and laughing]"

"All right, rita. You've lost the power eggs!"

That's not "it's a hassle" language, that's "it's gone for good" language.

That's....literally what the episode said. The only plot hole is how they got out of the sea and into the cave Rita found them in, but meh. It's season 1 Power Rangers.
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That's exactly what i mean, they aren't lost in a way they are erased from history and forever unable to be found. They are still there, all the "most powerful" statement still apply because the power eggs are still accessible. Billy found them and returned them to the morphin masters (just found out the comic where that is from lol) which also takes far into the future (dino thunder or smth?)

Rita did lose the power eggs since they went somewhere in the ocean but its goofy since Billy found them. Also Rita can sense and track down magical objects so how did she even- average S1 ahh
AerrowStorm1 said:
Wait, there was a magic spell that could risk destroying the entire morphin' grid?

I missed that episode. Can you tell me where?
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Destroying and destabilizing are different things, i was referring to the operation overdrive thingie and in general feats that can effect the Grid. Tho wasn't the Grid already heavily weakened during that story arc? Due to Specter's infection and all

That aside there are some of Zordon's dumb "oh if you teleport this vase in the wrong direction you'll destroy the grid!" but these way too contradictory to use in comparison to modern established canon
 
Divini said:
That's exactly what i mean, they aren't lost in a way they are erased from history and forever unable to be found. They are still there, all the "most powerful" statement still apply because the power eggs are still accessible. Billy found them and returned them to the morphin masters (just found out the comic where that is from lol) which also takes far into the future (dino thunder or smth?)
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So yeah, Billy found them in the future in the comic!Verse in some unknown way that's highly implied to be Destiny bullshit, but it's presented as however he found them and returned them kickstarted this big manhunt for them that wasn't going on before, which would be weird if they were totally still accessible before this moment. My personal assumption is he found them after Darkest Hour and this is part of his redemption (which fits the context and the continuity) but we have no idea because it starts in media res.
Divini said:
Rita did lose the power eggs since they went somewhere in the ocean but its goofy since Billy found them. Also Rita can sense and track down magical objects so how did she even- average S1 ahh
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Yeah, in Darkest Hour, Grace Sterling found them using the Master Arch and gave them to Billy, but we have no idea how he refound them in Across the Morphin' Grid, just that the moment he did, it started a massive manhunt for him and the eggs.



Divini said:
Destroying and destabilizing are different things, i was referring to the operation overdrive thingie and in general feats that can effect the Grid. Tho wasn't the Grid already heavily weakened during that story arc? Due to Specter's infection and all
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Not quite. It was infected by Dark Spectre's evil and they were arguing if destroying it would be a good way to save it, but no mention of it being "Weakened", just corrupted and tuened evil
 
AerrowStorm1 said:
So yeah, Billy found them in the future in the comic!Verse in some unknown way that's highly implied to be Destiny bullshit, but it's presented as however he found them and returned them kickstarted this big manhunt for them that wasn't going on before, which would be weird if they were totally still accessible before this moment. My personal assumption is he found them after Darkest Hour and this is part of his redemption (which fits the context and the continuity) but we have no idea because it starts in media res.
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Its not comic!verse canon, its tv show canon
“A true honor to work with all the talented people at BOOM! Studios and to be asked to write a story based on my character, Billy. I had so much fun imagining where Billy would be at 28 years old. I trust fans will enjoy my story and all the various stories being told in this anthology. Let’s GoGo!” said David Yost.

are you referring to the "Leap of faith"? Don't think it changes much, it feels super wrong for Billy to do anything with the Power Eggs when super evil villains are out there (inspace, lost galaxy bla bla) so when things got easier he located the power eggs and returned them.
AerrowStorm1 said:
Yeah, in Darkest Hour, Grace Sterling found them using the Master Arch and gave them to Billy, but we have no idea how he refound them in Across the Morphin' Grid, just that the moment he did, it started a massive manhunt for him and the eggs.
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The master arch is the super "find everything" so makes sense, which also shows that they not lost
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Not quite. It was infected by Dark Spectre's evil and they were arguing if destroying it would be a good way to save it, but nah.
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im sorry but how is suicide bombing a good option, all of reality will die if the Grid is destroyed but then you get Billy saying the Grid can't be destroyed in the once and always special
 
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