An archangel's fall - Massive Adam downgrades (Hazbin Hotel)

[ShionAH]

Prove that he'd get harmed.

Already did, he dodged it despite the fact that the beam threatened Charlie's life. Who he has been confirmed to deeply care about many times in the show. He would have facetanked it if he could to protect his daughter.

Mega CRT is making Angelic Weapons 5-B because they consistently cut through both Lucifer and Adam while also being a narrative threat to other Seraphims like Sera, meanwhile we know Alastor at Full Power can create shields that protect him from those weapons.

That's all I have to say, I leave the rest to the supporters that I... trust... somewhat.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Mega CRT is making Angelic Weapons 5-B because they consistently cut through both Lucifer and Adam while also being a narrative threat to other Seraphims like Sera, meanwhile we know Alastor at Full Power can create shields that protect him from those weapons.

This would also make Alastor 5-B with shields which makes no sense.

I'll ask to Anonymouys if he can hold that scaling there so that this point in the CRT can get resolved in peace.

 

[ShionAH]

This would also make Alastor 5-B with shields which makes no sense.

You know he used to be 5-B flat out, lol?

 

[StrymULTRA]

You know he used to be 5-B flat out, lol?

You're right, "used to", don't rely on the past.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

And people are complaining that Lucifer is not very prideful…

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

This would also make Alastor 5-B with shields which makes no sense.

We do know Alastor is the strongest Sinner (And his deal immediately breaks as soon as a new Strongest Sinner rolls around) and he coexisted with Lilith for decades, whom Vox refers to as a Sinner. That's to say he should (Given our current info) be stronger than Lilith, who's second only to Lucifer in Hell sooo #Alastor Agenda

 

[StrymULTRA]

We do know Alastor is the strongest Sinner (And his deal immediately breaks as soon as a new Strongest Sinner rolls around) and he coexisted with Lilith for decades, whom Vox refers to as a Sinner. That's to say he should (Given our current info) be stronger than Lilith, who's second in Hell sooo #Alastor Agenda

Orange won in this timeline fr

 

[ShionAH]

You're right, "used to", don't rely on the past.

You- this isn’t a “I got you” Strym.

They removed it because the feat we were using scaled everyone from Prick to Hatchet at Planetary. If it was just Alastor, it wouldn’t have been removed.

 

[StrymULTRA]

They removed it because the feat we were using scaled everyone from Prick to Hatchet at Planetary. If it was just Alastor, it wouldn’t have been removed.

Well that requires a whole new convo then, given that Low 7-B Alastor is one the points of this thread, so him being 5-B is, yeh...

 

[StrymULTRA]

Mega CRT is making Angelic Weapons 5-B because they consistently cut through both Lucifer and Adam while also being a narrative threat to other Seraphims like Sera, meanwhile we know Alastor at Full Power can create shields that protect him from those weapons.

That's all I have to say, I leave the rest to the supporters that I... trust... somewhat.

Eh you know what, given that the core of these CRTs completely contrast each other (I did not read that at ALL ngl), I think we should wait one of the two to sort out. Gotta wait for Anonymous which is better given he is the OP of the other one.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

We do know Alastor is the strongest Sinner (And his deal immediately breaks as soon as a new Strongest Sinner rolls around) and he coexisted with Lilith for decades, whom Vox refers to as a Sinner. That's to say he should (Given our current info) be stronger than Lilith, who's second only to Lucifer in Hell sooo #Alastor Agenda

#This fandom is waking up

 

[Randomuser3412]

Following

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

We do know Alastor is the strongest Sinner (And his deal immediately breaks as soon as a new Strongest Sinner rolls around) and he coexisted with Lilith for decades, whom Vox refers to as a Sinner. That's to say he should (Given our current info) be stronger than Lilith, who's second only to Lucifer in Hell sooo #Alastor Agenda

people finally waking up and realizing Alastor's top 3

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

bump

 

[Electronic74947]

Agree

Credits to @TheOrangeGuy09 given that he helped with some of the arguments here.

orange being such an alastor fan he's downgrading adam by using him as an antifeat is funny

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Agree

orange being such an alastor fan he's downgrading adam by using him as an antifeat is funny

i mean...when half of Adam's justification are "he beat Alastor," it was bound to happen

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

orange being such an alastor fan he's downgrading adam by using him as an antifeat is funny

No I only helped with the last thread about heat stuff and calcs and stuff

 

[Electronic74947]

No I only helped with the last thread about heat stuff and calcs and stuff

yeah alright bro

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

OP makes sense overall.

 

[ShionAH]

OP makes sense overall.

Have you read the counter arguments about each point? Because I cannot really believe this is enough to downgrade anything at all

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

OP makes sense overall.

do you think you could ping some staff?

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

bump

 

[Qurbonboev]

Mega CRT concluded, staff vote was added, so now sups can fully return to this CRT and debate again

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

@everyone revive this or smth

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I'll respond in 10 to 20 minutes. away from home rn

 

[DaReaperMan]

I'll respond in 10 to 20 minutes. away from home rn

240 minutes guys, let's go!

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

240 minutes guys, let's go!

Busy doing editing profiles of Charlie, alastor, and adam. Rest assured, i'll get to this

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

bump

 

[Raiden38]

Bump

 

[StrymULTRA]

Oh shit, I forgot this.

Mega CRT made the Tier 5 shit redundant, so I'll just cut things to the heat stuff.

 

[ShionAH]

Lemme reply to that too forgot all about it

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Current OP seems fine to me.

 

[SomebodyData]

Since all that's left is the heat hax, I've got no issue with it's removal. Agreed with the OP

 

[StrymULTRA]

Since all that's left is the heat hax, I've got no issue with it's removal. Agreed with the OP

And done. This has been applied and can be closed.