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DEATH BATTLE! Accuracy Scale [Part 10, The more things change, the more they stay the same]

I'll wait and see if Godzilla Ultima defenders can argue against that, I recall there was back and forth in that MU.
 
id say you could make an argument for the research on blade vs buffy being bad to some extent (Were rating this based on accuracy and verdict right)
 
Thunderman101 said:
id say you could make an argument for the research on blade vs buffy being bad to some extent (Were rating this based on accuracy and verdict right)
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There were definitely a few issues there. The space cutting with the scythe was done by Willow using a spell, and the Breathing Gun bullets do way more damage than the video treated them as doing. Blade also has anti-magic swords and other such weapons.
 
Osemere said:
How does Spawn beat GR? GR is 1-A and has Marvel magic slop.
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He doesn't.
 
Ig Marvel's Magic shit being in another page made people miss it?

Souls being 1-A sounds cringe lol
 
TMaakkonen said:
Ig Marvel's Magic shit being in another page made people miss it?

Souls being 1-A sounds cringe lol
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Warhammer does it too we just have the decency to say that the 1-A shit doesn't really matter cause enough of both the mind and soul are there to hax... if you pierce resistances and have basically every interaction under the sun that is.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Warhammer does it too we just have the decency to say that the 1-A shit doesn't really matter cause enough of both the mind and soul are there to hax... if you pierce resistances and have basically every interaction under the sun that is.
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Technically, LotR has Tier 0 souls. Luckily, it doesn't matter much since only 1 race (and kinda Elves) can keep going as just a soul (and there's plenty of other ways to handle LotR characters).
 
So like, is there anything in Spawn's page that could work on GR?

EDIT: OK So umm someone tried to argue about GRSpawn but uhh guess we just kind of ignored and forgot that topic. Oops sorry.

Well, quick look makes it seem peak Spawn has Omnipresence and a lot of immortalities, so can GR handle them?
 
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Random-Helper323 said:
There were definitely a few issues there. The space cutting with the scythe was done by Willow using a spell, and the Breathing Gun bullets do way more damage than the video treated them as doing. Blade also has anti-magic swords and other such weapons
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The anti magic swords were adressed in a black box, but i do have some other issues

1.They scaled buffys scythe to universial due to it being able to cut up a dude who could eat multiverses, but convenitently ignored the pannels of that same guy gettinv hurt by normal weapons. Ap isint always dc

2.Unrelated, but the g1 blog argued 12 via string theory, but the same problem pops up. They chain scale it to0 buffys scythe because it was meant to kill old ones, one of the old ones was gonna colapse the multiverse with string theory. That dosent really work because old ones rapidly fluctuate in power and some cn die from kiloton eexplosion. We dont even know if this was hax and something being meant to kill something else does not mean it scales to it, like kryptonite being meant to kill superman. Buffy has been described as far weaker than the old one who did the feat too, and she has neve rfought iyyara witht he scythe (The old one who did the feat)

3.Buffy is angelic in the novels

A angel says to buffy that being a slayer makes her a type of angel, the breathing gun was stated to work on angels in a handbook, but the breathing gun argument against it in the g1 blog used the excuse that it failed to work on a nun and has never put down an actual angel on page, so its probably not gonna work on buffy. (Me thinks nuns are not angels too, even if theyre both holy that dosent mean theyre the same things, the handbook explicitly said angel so how did we get to fallen angels is beyond me). THe one where it didnt work on a nun was in 2013, and the latest iteration of breath breath was in 2019, and the handbook was in 2020 sooo it could just be a retcon.



4.They argued that she wouldnt be hurt by the hellfire shotgun because she resited having her soul torn appart against time, that is not a mesurable form of ap. Its more likley hax. and she did that through intense willpower which is not the same as being shot suddenly and it being damage.
 
Thunderman101 said:
The anti magic swords were adressed in a black box, but i do have some other issues

1.They scaled buffys scythe to universial due to it being able to cut up a dude who could eat multiverses, but convenitently ignored the pannels of that same guy gettinv hurt by normal weapons. Ap isint always dc

2.Unrelated, but the g1 blog argued 12 via string theory, but the same problem pops up. They chain scale it to0 buffys scythe because it was meant to kill old ones, one of the old ones was gonna colapse the multiverse with string theory. That dosent really work because old ones rapidly fluctuate in power and some cn die from kiloton eexplosion. We dont even know if this was hax and something being meant to kill something else does not mean it scales to it, like kryptonite being meant to kill superman. Buffy has been described as far weaker than the old one who did the feat too, and she has neve rfought iyyara witht he scythe (The old one who did the feat)

3.Buffy is angelic in the novels

A angel says to buffy that being a slayer makes her a type of angel, the breathing gun was stated to work on angels in a handbook, but the breathing gun argument against it in the g1 blog used the excuse that it failed to work on a nun and has never put down an actual angel on page, so its probably not gonna work on buffy. (Me thinks nuns are not angels too, even if theyre both holy that dosent mean theyre the same things, the handbook explicitly said angel so how did we get to fallen angels is beyond me). THe one where it didnt work on a nun was in 2013, and the latest iteration of breath breath was in 2019, and the handbook was in 2020 sooo it could just be a retcon.



4.They argued that she wouldnt be hurt by the hellfire shotgun because she resited having her soul torn appart against time, that is not a mesurable form of ap. Its more likley hax. and she did that through intense willpower which is not the same as being shot suddenly and it being damage.
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they also argued that even if it did work, buffys stuff could deflect it because its deflected NON PHYSICAL LASER BEAMS. Magic lasers that arent physical being deflected arent the same as a physical bullet that happens to be made of magic.

If we dont buy buffys silas feat (which dosent make sense at all), and we dont buy the 12d theory the gun would just break through the thing. They also treated blades mist form as useless outside of going inside buffy to explode her but he has used it in combat to dodge attacks. If you use marvel street tier infighting we can scale blade to people with skill that "Know every martial art and can adapt to any fighting style near instantly", which should mitigate the gap of skill between him and buffy (Quantity is not always quality)
 


I know that FFXVI doesn't have profiles yet, but the Logos guide came out recently and it allegedly mentions Clive being able to stay Ifrit indefinitely?

Not sure how it affects debate on the MU, since I remember this episode being widely decried as wrong here when it came out. It wasn't mentioned at all in the episodes since they only stuck to the games, but does anybody familiar with the DMC novels know if Beryl's Anti-Magic Rifle would hard counter Ifrit as well as I'd assume it'd could, given it relies on Aether which is basically magic in all but name, and the Rifle can shoot a vortex that sucks up any magic in the area?
 
Crashandcortexs said:


I know that FFXVI doesn't have profiles yet, but the Logos guide came out recently and it allegedly mentions Clive being able to stay Ifrit indefinitely?

Not sure how it affects debate on the MU, since I remember this episode being widely decried as wrong here when it came out. It wasn't mentioned at all in the episodes since they only stuck to the games, but does anybody familiar with the DMC novels know if Beryl's Anti-Magic Rifle would hard counter Ifrit as well as I'd assume it'd could, given it relies on Aether which is basically magic in all but name, and the Rifle can shoot a vortex that sucks up any magic in the area?
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asking here isn't gonna give you much of an answer since what DB thinks and what we think isn't the same

also asking us will give you a dozen reasons why Dante wins so not much to add, Beryl's rifle is not even top 10
 
Also Wonder Woman Post-Crisis is 2-A so She-Ra can be harmed now I believe also certain that she could simply blitz her and take her sword with superior speed and LS to nerf her as well
 
Abysswalker2126 said:
Don’t they have a lot of the same hax? And can’t dr. Fate counter strange’s spells?
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Doctor Strange has layered soul hax that affects one's personal concept/information, EE, power null, 1-A BFR, sealing, time hax on par with the Infinity Gauntlet, mind hax on par with the greatest telepaths in Marvel (he even overpowered the higher-dimensional Umar in a telepathic battle and only lost due to her assistant sneak-attacking him), Illusion hax that has worked against beings such as the Beyonder and Arioch (the latter of whom exists in a realm that dwarfs Hell Lords such as Mephisto and Satannish), 1-A Fusion/Absorption, and extra Type 2 Information Manipulation via the Words of the Black Priests that would let him make Dr. Fate explode by saying one word. He also has a lot of equipment.

Now, I have no doubt that if Dr. Fate and DC magic had their profiles properly revised that Fate would have hax as equally bonkers as Strange, but until then Strange's on-profile hax heavily outclasses Fate.
 


So where do we rate this episode? I notice we don't seem to have anything about the Mega Minions, so that's probably something to consider.
 
MFTL+ vs not-MFTL+. Yeah sure. If anyone else wants to counter argue for Astro winning, go nuts.
 
I don't understand how Cap vs Bats is wrong. They're relatively equal in stats and skill, with Bruce having a massive hax advantage with his stealth and gadgets.
 
Thunderman101 said:
smth smth low outerversal sheild
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Nah that doesn't change that Batman can probably outmanuever him with his gadgets. That shield's not omnidirectional, lol.

Skillwise both should be the same (if not a slight edge to Batman, though Marvel's skillhax is also insane), and Batman will actually be stronger once 8-C goes through. And at his peak, Batman is Hypersonic+ in combat speed, compared to Hypersonic combat speed for Cap.

Cap's only real edge besides the shield is his vastly superior LS.
 
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