Can L1A be smurf?

[CasperSenar]

Can haxes like cm, info2, etc be smurf if they effect L1A places instead of just 1A?

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Can haxes like cm, info2, etc be smurf if they effect L1A places instead of just 1A?

Yes (L1A is also non-dimensionality)

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Not smurf potency only range

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Not smurf potency only range

Wait, why? I remember someone verse has Low 1-A CM?

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Wait, why? I remember someone verse has Low 1-A CM?

probably range

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

probably range

I just ask Agann about it, and he never disagree with Low 1-A potency instead of 1-A

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Yeah it is more than likely range and not potency

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

I just ask Agann about it, and he never disagree with Low 1-A potency instead of 1-A

? Why wouldn't he disagree with it if the whole point was quantitative shit cant be smurf potency.

 

[MaskedDragon908]

Can haxes like cm, info2, etc be smurf if they effect L1A places instead of just 1A?

I just ask Agann about it, and he never disagree with Low 1-A potency instead of 1-A

So concept stuff can't be smurf unless it's 1-A or above and the concepts are personal, and reality warping stuff can't be smurf in general.

All "conceptual stuff" is now only smurf if it's 1-A, since concepts are 1-A by default now
Agnaa has clarified that this is incorrect.
Masked will leave it to Agnaa to explain.

For other stuff:

If the "hax" interacts with durability (attacking organs, utilising pressure points), smurf is anything that works on greater-than-infinitely-higher-durability targets.

The most applicable thing is smurf range.

Mind manip isn't stronger for being able to hit a mind a timeline away, but if your mind is a timeline away, many characters will fail to reach it

Edit: Minor changes to formatting

 

[Agnaa]

I just ask Agann about it, and he never disagree with Low 1-A potency instead of 1-A

I didn't realise you were asking a question that precise.

Low 1-A info/concept isn't smurf, unless the info/concept is personal and has a corresponding size.

? Why wouldn't he disagree with it if the whole point was quantitative shit cant be smurf potency.

Quantitative shit can be smurf, as long as the "shit" in question is something which must contend with the size of its target.

All "conceptual stuff" is now only smurf if it's 1-A, since concepts are 1-A by default now

That's not true.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Quantitative shit can be smurf, as long as the "shit" in question is something which must contend with the size of its target.

the OP was about specific hax so I was talking with those in mind so ye but I guess there can be cases where it has to contend with size too (range)

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

The thread does make me think though. Couldnt you also get roundabout smurf stuff that translates to a form of potency if a person can use their low 1-A concept hax to boost their AP in relation to the target and thus since it encompasses a low 1-A scope it can boost them to almost anything all the way up to low 1-A AP. Wouldn't run into "NLF" so it seems fine to me.

 

[Agnaa]

The thread does make me think though. Couldnt you also get roundabout smurf stuff that translates to a form of potency if a person can use their low 1-A concept hax to boost their AP in relation to the target and thus since it encompasses a low 1-A scope it can boost them to almost anything all the way up to low 1-A AP. Wouldn't run into "NLF" so it seems fine to me.

You could, but that's not smurf-like, since it doesn't bypass resistances/nullification. It just makes you strong enough to one-shot.