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(Not like there’s like 3 MFTL+ HSR calcs rn)
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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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I dont even know what yall be talking abt anymore, this thread got 200 pages in 2 months
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Tragically the way to fight speed caps is not calcs but rather common sense (or black clover would still be MFTL+)
Common sense is on our side in this case though
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Zephyro would be older than Nanook being an Aeon if that cap was legitimate
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Zephyro taking 10’s of thousands of years absolute minimum to destroy a galaxy either by traveling around it physically wiping out solar systems one by one or with one big explosionZephyro would be older than Nanook being an Aeon if that cap was legitimate
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Probably like 4 million years if we assume Tia Nua was asdana sizeZephyro taking 10’s of thousands of years absolute minimum to destroy a galaxy either by traveling around it physically wiping out solar systems one by one or with one big explosion
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Cuz it honestly really does seem like they need to apply imaginary energy/entropy manipulation to bypass SoL. Stuff like Phainon for example is fine since it happens in Path Space which lacks the SoL limit brought about by normal entropy
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time for me to make a thread to apply that cap!
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“The lord Ravagers can incinerate galaxies”
“And you can happily live out your life knowing the Ravager will take another couple hundred thousand years to reach your planet”
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If we attribute this to HE IE shenanigans. Does this mean ZZZ and Genshin are hard capped or does elemental/abyssal energy get them beyond it.
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Random readables are hoyos biggest enemy
hi3 readable has cof at barrier lvl despite welt being able to use herrscher powers (albeit little)
and hsr has a speed cap limit dropped rn despite characters like zephyro being able to travel around in space
hi3 readable has cof at barrier lvl despite welt being able to use herrscher powers (albeit little)
and hsr has a speed cap limit dropped rn despite characters like zephyro being able to travel around in space
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MFTL by an EoS Asta who’s above the cap to begin with
Even his pre timeskip profile used to be MFTL back in 2022 or something
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The profiles are outdated as shit. 99% of Black clover aren’t ftl rn
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That would be very funny
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Lmao ic
MFTL by an EoS Asta who’s above the cap to begin with
Even his pre timeskip profile used to be MFTL back in 2022 or something
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In any case, the cap would only apply to 4D physicality. Imaginary Energy makes zero sense to be below SoL
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Galaxy destroying in general is just a headache to think of how they’d get it done with below Speed of light velocities. So the Imaginary / Honkai excuse is the only thing that’s acceptable
Plunging should’ve made a binding vow to get that Infinite Speed Diabolic Kevin thread passed…
Yeah Genshin’s honestly cooked thanks to this rule. I don’t see ZZZ getting close to light speed anytime soon regardless so it wouldn’t matter for em really.
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Yall remember when Sahl and Furina disagree with giving Genshin Honkai/Imaginay Energy? Unironically this might change their minds
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I just want to throw this guy at hoyo peeps, but you dodge 6-C so much
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Golgfag Maneater
Golgfаg Maneater is the most infamous, rich, and successful Ogre Mercenary across Malus, having been active for over sixty years and counting and never stopping, no matter how many powerful people who hire him such as Ungrim Ironfist or Grimgor Ironhide he crosses, he still survives.[1][2][3]...
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“HONKAI ENERGY! I NEED YOU HONKAI ENERGY! Please… just give us light speed…”Yall remember when Sahl and Furina disagree with giving Genshin Honkai/Imaginay Energy? Unironically this might change their minds
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Might be the only way to beat Shigaraki
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Throw Bro at Genshin so you can farm ez wins. Even shigaraki can beat those lot.I just want to throw this guy at hoyo peeps, but you dodge 6-C so much
Golgfag Maneater
Golgfаg Maneater is the most infamous, rich, and successful Ogre Mercenary across Malus, having been active for over sixty years and counting and never stopping, no matter how many powerful people who hire him such as Ungrim Ironfist or Grimgor Ironhide he crosses, he still survives.[1][2][3]...
A genshin character would find a way to lose to shiggy even if they had Honkai energy ngl
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Limited Nonexistent Physiology (Type 2, All Aspects), Abstract Existence (Type 1), Acausality (Type 4, possibly Type 5) & Paraconsistent Physiology (Type 2; A part of all beings' mind and soul in Warhammer is made out of Aethyr and exists in the Realm of Chaos,[4] providing them with the same properties above and resides Low 1-A range away at minimum. In fact until a Mortal dies, even the Chaos Gods themselves cannot locate their souls despite being in their realm[5])I just want to throw this guy at hoyo peeps, but you dodge 6-C so much
Golgfag Maneater
Golgfаg Maneater is the most infamous, rich, and successful Ogre Mercenary across Malus, having been active for over sixty years and counting and never stopping, no matter how many powerful people who hire him such as Ungrim Ironfist or Grimgor Ironhide he crosses, he still survives.[1][2][3]...
What the, how is so broken as an island lvl
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why are we still on the readable? it relays the fact that speed is indeed, even in real life, "capped" at sol because after that limit, physics break. pathstriders and emanators surpassing it when they are already breaking physics with hax and power alike is nothing crazy..?
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Yall remember when Sahl and Furina disagree with giving Genshin Honkai/Imaginay Energy? Unironically this might change their minds
Mind you, all normal humans possess IE at some level.
But uh, yea, the cap does not apply to IE. In fact, the reason the cap exists is because of Real Energy abiding by normal entropy. The actual main function of IE is in fact entropy manipulation, since it is what can be used to create negentropy and the like (reversing chaos).
Um, it’s also why in Hi3, time is used as the thing traveling through the trunk, whilst in HSR, that’s Imaginary Energy. Since the direction of time itself is determined by entropy, which is affected by the usage of Imaginary Energy.
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Oh yeah Mind and souls are uninteractible hard-core in Warhammer, you don't get to do ANYTHING mind or soul hax related..
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Warhammer Fantasy Atoms that’s how.
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Because the issue is how this would apply to scaling. Since them being FTL is not an intrinsic part of their physicality, but rather due to physics manipulation
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Hoyoverse will drop a statement when it says unless ur literally an Aeon you cant be FTL and Kevin will just do it anyway
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every ftl feat is technically breaking physics though unless in every other verse its stated that ftl speeds can be achieved 'naturally' or something
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Kevin is the gojo of hoyo, everyone gets a downscale except Kevin of course, everyone gets an upscale and Kevin does too, bros death and still winning
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Series generally don’t acknowledge SoL caps. Most characters calculated FTL feats are just because the authors believe they are simply that fast
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Also for the Warhammer 6-Cs Golgfag is like... an E-tier character. He lacks the majority of the skillslop that makes Warhammer Fantasy dangerous, has no real gimmicks or magic, is a huge target, and any layers whatsoever allow you to hax him.
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Pretty sure you can just index their speed normally because they all use HE/IE to empower themselves to fight anyways. And we can just add another line to physics manipulation saying this is how they go beyond SOL.
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intuitively, it should generally be considered unless stated otherwise that verses follow real life's physics for the most part no? at least until fantasy intercepts it
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UES atoms
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Agreed. At absolute worst we’d pull a Star Wars and say “FTL with Imaginary Energy” but that’s cringe cause obv they’d be slow asf if they weren’t using it.
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This is what I’m thinking anyways. But honestly it’s such a hassle to have to bother with this, and it doesn’t really impact much
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