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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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The prior states exist, and they are capable of causing the proper effects. When Qlipoth swings their hammer, they swings that hammer. When Oroboros eats something, they eat that something.
For acausality to apply here, you'd have to prove that effect does not follow from cause (so when Qlipoth swings his hammer, what happens is not something derivable from that swing), but all you're doing is just saying that we can't predict the effect, not that the effect can't logically follow from the cause.
In any case, this is getting tiresome at this point, I deeply implore you to actually open a thread if you believe it fits Acausality, and seeing what's happening with Genshin, it prob won't be hard to pass.
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poops man... for starters what owlbert meant was that she was literally hiding her past behind the galaxy ranger persona. stop it.
Mbpoops
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so you admit she has a past and shes hiding it. thanks!! now open a thread on it
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I’m not arguing that Aeons act without causes. That's not acausality either. The point is that their outcomes aren’t constrained by the same system that determines all other outcomes. Elio’s script, the omniscia and the SU, model reality itself and can derive outcomes from prior states yet they consistently fail when Aeons are involved. That suggests it’s not just unpredictability but that Aeons introduce results that aren’t fully determined within that causal framework. I also think that wasn't literally Qlipoth's hammer. It was what the Lux arrow was. Like it wasn't LITERALLY Qlipoth swinging...
I wouldn't mind doing it if other supporters agree. I don't care to wank the verse. I just think that's the case and want to make you see my point.
What is happening in genshin?
are you okay? the past exists for her only. in her memories. its gone from the memories of the world. it literally tells you that not even remembrance has it.
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so you're fine with removing acausality type 2 from acheron then ok
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No Qlipoth was literally swinging that shit when jobbing Tayzzy bro
Mbpoops
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Type 2: Temporal Singularity: Characters with this type of Acausality do not exist in either the past or the future, only the present. This means they cannot be affected by changes to the past, while also making them resistant to Precognition that works by viewing the future, as they do not exist within it, and Fate Manipulation, for the same reason. In essence, they are able to choose their own fates, but they remain just as vulnerable at the point in time in which they do exist.
its technically impossible for any hoyo character to have aca type 2 since everyone has a past present and future lol shoutout terminus
its technically impossible for any hoyo character to have aca type 2 since everyone has a past present and future lol shoutout terminus
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how do you arrive to this conclusion?i thought u meant qlipoth's hammer on ena/sunday there.
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Type 2: Temporal Singularity: Characters with this type of Acausality do not exist in either the past or the future, only the present. This means they cannot be affected by changes to the past, while also making them resistant to Precognition that works by viewing the future, as they do not exist within it, and Fate Manipulation, for the same reason. In essence, they are able to choose their own fates, but they remain just as vulnerable at the point in time in which they do exist.
you literally admitted she has a past
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I am genuinely amazed how this thread having 8-10 pages per day talking over anything and the same thing
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What can you expect
(Besides back and forth on same args that have been concluded in the last 5-10)
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can you explain why? i am really trying to understand you. especially when ix is involved and we just got evidence that in different realms, such as the dark zone, physics work differently.
okay. lets take it from the beginning.
izumo alive and well -> shadow of ix falls upon it -> izumo is erased from all kinds of existence and the timeline itself
acheron is annihilated and becomes a walking temporal paradox aka she does not exist in the past because the past no longer exists and she also does not exist in the future because she was erased. but for her individually, her memories exist.
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How can Terminus time travel to the past and Acheron is there
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Like i just realized this thread was top trending thread, like genuinely how 6-8 members active only in this thread beating such as opm and db seasonal threadWhat can you expect
That's genuinely insane (in all possible way)
I swear man, last time i offline for half day, i need to read 7 pages behind
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when did that happen...
Mbpoops
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Like all the time. For example, when we met Terminus while talking to Dahlia, do you think Acheron stopped existing?
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LmaoLike i just realized this thread was top trending thread, like genuinely how 6-8 members active only in this thread beating such as opm and db seasonal thread
That's genuinely insane (in all possible way)
I swear man, last time i offline for half day, i need to read 7 pages behind
If im not here reading this , I've came back to 15 pages (in half a day)
And that's from being offline completely or on discord
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we didnt move through time? we just had our full memories unlocked.
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literally every second, terminus' past is our future and terminus travels from the end of time to the beginning of this universe i swear we've been over this before
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But Terminus did. So Acheron did exist in Terminus' past, otherwise it won't be able to travel to a time where Acheron existed.
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are u both talking about a hypothetical situation? because those two have not crossed. you are basically asking me "what would happen"
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if you want to nuke 2-A for aeons im cool with that cause ur basically saying paths dont have a universal presence
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Brother, the only way your point works is if you argue Acheron spontaneously stops existing every time a cat appears
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Aeons = getting bullied by Durandal
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ok this is getting annoying. how does acheron being removed from the timeline affect terminus' journey in any case? its just her and izumo that are gone. he is not directly interacting with her??
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Because it means she isn't actually intrinsically non-existent in the past, just that mfs can't remember it.
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And that's called Neko charm, dattebayo!
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Oh boy, such a difficult 3 way dilemma. Whichever will I choose. Surely one is not far more plausible than the others.
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how does it mean that? she's gone the same way in genshin's irminsul someone is erased...
your argument is a hypothetical scenario while ignoring clear-cut statements
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Just open the CRT and I'll explain it there.
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