NIHILITY Meets DEATH ! ISIS REMNANT vs Emanator of Nihility ACHERON !!! (11-1-3)

[BoastJr]

Acheron suddenly finds herself in another world. As the all-too-familiar scent of death fills the air, she senses a powerful opponent approaching. She draws her blade and prepares for battle...only to come face to face with the Death King herself... Isis Remnant the former Despair Evil of God.


Rules :
1. SBA
2. Speed Equal
3. Fight takes place in a Peach Store in Trinia

Isis Remnant : @Astral_Trinity439 ,@Hecker2222,@Mbpoops,@Grabbing_dragon,@ExcelsisBerny,@Shiroiyo,@AlipheeseXIV,@Legacy30,@Enter_Bluey,Harith0cell, @Eseseso

Mei :
@KingOfDarknessBelow

They Yuri Kiss (Incon) : @Voidnether,@GodEarh206,@SuperNova55555

 

[BoastJr]

If anyone asks me about the Yuri route

Just know that Mei likes kiana or kebin depending.. which makes her kaslanasexual

And isis has white / silver hair like them.. so yeah...

 

[Voidnether]

And that's another one eradicated from reality because for some reason Isis doesn't have resistance to Void Manipulation and Existence Erasure that includes IM2 amongst other things

She doesn't have Resistance to Time Manipulation so yeah if Acheron decides it'd be best to pull out her Naught because of the massive stats difference, it's kinda over the moment this happened for Isis

I wanna point out that Acheron's in-character is basically to pull out Naught against someone massively stronger than her previously (i.e Aventurine of Stratagems) that she one-shotted and brought him to Horizon of Existence which should make Aventurine die but he survived + he had Resistance to HoE hax mainly cause of Cornerstones

I don't think Acheron would be stupid enough to do a close combat fight with someone who could one-shot her (which meant it wouldn't be the same scenario as Acheron fighting Firefly that she still had Naught sheathed in here)

 

[Mbpoops]

when acheron transforms she wins, Isis doesnt resist madness manip, EE and all the other things here

 

[Voidnether]

when acheron transforms she wins, Isis doesnt resist madness manip, EE and all the other things here

Isis doesn't even resist Time Manipulation altogether (time literally stops when Acheron transforms so GG), you don't even need to list the rest

 

[Hecky2222]

AE1 anyone?

 

[Voidnether]

AE1 anyone?

• Enhanced Non-Physical Interaction (Abstractions【Type 1】, Concept【Type 3】& Nonexistence【Nature Types 1 & 3; Aspects 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5〈Other: Life, Logic, Space-Time, Order & History〉】; Acheron can interact with a manifestation of IX)

 

[Legacy30]

Actually, Isis can move in time stop, somehow we don't have that on her profile. Counts, who are massively inferior to her, can stop time, and she stomps them. She also stops time too. Isis is also AE1 with concept 1, so Acheron isn't touching that. Isis' soul is a world creator's soul, so her authorities, including herself, should have Info2, but that hasn't been updated yet for months despite the thread for it being accepted.

 

[Mbpoops]

why do IX manifestations have NEP? its just a black hole bruh

 

[BoastJr]

We should give all blackhole users NEP with this logic

 

[Voidnether]

Actually, Isis can move in time stop, somehow we don't have that on her profile. Counts, who are massively inferior to her, can stop time, and she stomps them. She also stops time too. Isis is also AE1 with concept 1, so Acheron isn't touching that. Isis' soul is a world creator's soul, so her authorities, including herself, should have Info2, but that hasn't been updated yet for months despite the thread for it being accepted.

Putting this all together, this proves Isis if she chooses to, can take on her true form, which is the soul of the Evil God/magic power of death, which is conceptual

It's only Isis' true form that's AE1 (Concept Type 1), which is why she has both AE1 & AE2 listed because Isis generally is AE2 due to being reliant on her true form. Acheron slashing her to Horizon of Existence is Dimensional BFR so Isis would just get incapacitated

 

[Legacy30]

when acheron transforms she wins, Isis doesnt resist madness manip, EE and all the other things here

She has 3 layers of mind, soul, fear, and madness resists in the peerage page.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Peerage_Ranking_System_(Isekai_at_Peace)#Resistances

 

[Legacy30]

It's only Isis' true form that's AE1 (Concept Type 1), which is why she has both AE1 & AE2 listed because Isis generally is AE2 due to being reliant on her true form. Acheron slashing her to Horizon of Existence is Dimensional BFR so Isis would just get incapacitated

Isis can also escape from dimensional BFR...

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Peerage_Ranking_System_(Isekai_at_Peace)#Abilities:~:text=Pocket%20Reality%20Manipulation,39%5D.

 

[Voidnether]

She has 3 layers of mind, soul, fear, and madness resists in the peerage page.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Peerage_Ranking_System_(Isekai_at_Peace)#Resistances

Is her Resistance to IM2 also layered? Because if not, Acheron has Power Nullification & Resistance Negation that negates IM2 (Imaginary Energy)

 

[Mbpoops]

She has 3 layers of mind, soul, fear, and madness resists in the peerage page.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Peerage_Ranking_System_(Isekai_at_Peace)#Resistances

thats fair, though i dont see resistance to EE which is passive in acheron's domain

 

[Hecky2222]

the Evil God was previously shown to be able to discard her physical body to exist as just a soul Putting this all together, this proves Isis if she chooses to, can take on her true form, which is the soul of the Evil God/magic power of death, which is conceptual)

Justification literally tells she can enter AE1 whenever she wants

Why the heck you all asumming Acheron can touch CM1

 

[Mbpoops]

Justification literally tells she can enter AE1 whenever she wants

Why the heck you all asumming Acheron can touch CM1

wait she has cm1? yea gg acheron is cooked next

 

[Voidnether]

Isis can also escape from dimensional BFR...

Does she resist all these?

Void Manipulation, Existence Erasure (Space-Time, History, Memory, Information【Type 2】& Conceptual【Type 3】) & Causality Manipulation

These immediately happens the moment she got Dimensional BFR'd onto HoE

 

[Voidnether]

Justification literally tells she can enter AE1 whenever she wants

Why the heck you all asumming Acheron can touch CM1

Maybe it's because that you can still BFR someone with it? Just that you can't affect it? Also AE1 to Concept Type 1 doesn't inherently meant she resists all of Acheron's hax, it just meant that you need NPI to her concept type 1 if you wanna kill her "physically"

 

[Hecky2222]

wait she has cm1? yea gg acheron is cooked next

• Abstract Existence (Types 2 & 1 (Concept Type 1) - Isis is the embodiment of the concept of death itself. Isis is a ghost type entity, a concept taken form. The magic power of death is close to a God's authority, and authorities control the very concept they govern. The basis for Isis existence is the magic power of death, so even when she uses a mental clone in a virtual world, the magic power of death remains. The soul of the Evil God is stated to be the core of Isis existence, which proves that the soul of the Evil God is the same as the magic power of death. Isis can take on a form like a spiritual form which lets attacks pass through her, and the Evil God was previously shown to be able to discard her physical body to exist as just a soul Putting this all together, this proves Isis if she chooses to, can take on her true form, which is the soul of the Evil God/magic power of death, which is conceptual)
  
  

Seems like yea

 

[Hecky2222]

Also AE1 to Concept Type 1 doesn't inherently meant she resists all of Acheron's hax

So how does Acheron interact with CM1 again?

 

[Legacy30]

Is her Resistance to IM2 also layered? Because if not, Acheron has Power Nullification & Resistance Negation that negates IM2 (Imaginary Energy)

A world creator has layers above all of their creations which are 3 to 4 layers if I'm remembering correctly. Isis' soul is that of a world creator, so she should get all of that.

Does she resist all these?

These immediately happens the moment she got Dimensional BFR'd onto HoE

She's not BFR Isis' soul which is concept 1. The only thing not resistible is history which might be worth a thread later.

Maybe it's because that you can still BFR someone with it? Just that you can't affect it? Also AE1 to Concept Type 1 doesn't inherently meant she resists all of Acheron's hax, it just meant that you need NPI to her concept type 1 if you wanna kill her "physically"

Plus, it's Isis' whole everything and soul that's concept 1.

 

[Mbpoops]

CM1 solos ngl

 

[Hecky2222]

Essentially Acheron cant interact with Isis and gets Cm1 diffed.

Ye no idk what to argue and why not to close this

 

[SuperNova55555]

So how does Acheron interact with CM1 again?

I would like to know too

 

[Voidnether]

So how does Acheron interact with CM1 again?

She doesn't, that's why she just unsheathed her sword which causes time to stop and prevents Isis from moving at all in which she decided to BFR her onto the Horizon of Existence, it'd be on Isis whether she resists all the hax in there or not because else she gets erased

The implications of AE1 (concept type 1) just meant that you need NPI if you wanna kill her in a physical way, but if you kill her with hax then yeah it doesn't really matter because it was never specified you need to have NPI to this AE1 or they resist all of your hax

 

[Hecky2222]

I would like to know too

You gotta teach Nether what the heck is AE1 first

 

[Voidnether]

Also even if Acheron wins, it'd be a stomp to Isis since I don't see her having any wincons at all and if you really wanna argue her AE1 resists all of Acheron's hax just because Acheron is incapable of interacting, is also a stomp

 

[Legacy30]

Does Acheron resist passive concept 1 EE?

 

[Hecky2222]

Also even if Acheron wins, it'd be a stomp to Isis since I don't see her having any wincons at all

 

[BoastJr]

Tbf it depends on Isis's mood but it can easily go that way since she only needs to stop holding back

Basically when she holds back immensely : Her powers passively kills everything around and causes buildings to rot

When she doesn't hold back : Her Blue-Aura around her body turns Jet-Black and Erases things around her

 

[Voidnether]

Does Acheron resist passive concept 1 EE?

This is only if Isis is serious, plus I don't see this being passive at all in the profiles anyway

You gotta teach Nether what the heck is AE1 first

Just because a power stems from something doesn't mean that it would automatically be unaffected or supersede anything without that property. By that logic, Bugs can't do anything to Kratos because a concept permeates his entire being and Bugs can't affect those.

By your logic, Acheron can't do anything to Isis because a concept permeates Isis's entire being and Acheron can't affect those which is genuinely shit because in the context above: Plot Manipulation is still meant to be able to kill someone with AE1 to concept even if said Plot Manipulation is incapable of interacting with a concept hence the incon on the match above

So yeah no, Acheron is theoretically still capable of doing Dimensional BFR to Isis even if she cannot interact

 

[Mbpoops]

ok but seriously WHY DOES IX SHADOWS HAVE NEP1???

 

[Legacy30]

How many layers of soul, fear, empathy, and madness resistance does acheron have?
And yes, Isis' death aura is passive, that's kinda her whole thing.

 

[Hecky2222]

By your logic, Acheron can't do anything to Isis because a concept permeates Isis's entire being and Acheron can't affect those which is genuinely shit because in the context above: Plot Manipulation is still meant to be able to kill someone with AE1 to concept even if said Plot Manipulation is incapable of interacting with a concept hence the incon on the match above

Negative reading comprehension at finest

 

[Voidnether]

ok but seriously WHY DOES IX SHADOWS HAVE NEP1???

I don't know, I just go with what's on the profiles here but yeah I'm more interested in arguing the guy why tf does AE1 to concept makes Isis invulnerable to all of Acheron's hax despite this reasoning being the biggest BS possible (Kratos resisting Bugs plot manipulation because Bugs can't interact with CM1)

 

[Mbpoops]

How many layers of soul, fear, empathy, and madness resistance does acheron have?
And yes, Isis' death aura is passive, that's kinda her whole thing.

0, isis neg diffs

 

[Voidnether]

Negative reading comprehension at finest

even if said Plot Manipulation is incapable of interacting with a concept hence the incon on the match above

Actually negative tracking..

 

[Mbpoops]

I don't know, I just go with what's on the profiles here but yeah I'm more interested in arguing the guy why tf does AE1 to concept makes Isis invulnerable to all of Acheron's hax despite this reasoning being the biggest BS possible (Kratos resisting Bugs plot manipulation because Bugs can't interact with CM1)

because acheron cant interact with cm1

 

[Voidnether]

Negative reading comprehension at finest

In a vs-debate a clash between such powers may have an indeterminate outcome

Literally what you quoted on your own