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[Ultimate-Rex1]

Bugs FRA

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Alice starts off at High 3-A, if UBF is used she could outstats Bugs fairly quick, current Alice is 6-D bordering on 7-D due to this ability, albeit that has taken some time.

So she wouldn't be powerful compared to Bugs to begin with, and if Bugs plays around, she can get above his level of 5-D, and since temporal dimensions are a thing, get faster than him too.

But yea, if Bugs doesn't take her out from the beginning she will just quickly get too fast for him to hit, and get access to her world creator abilities which can kill/incapacitate Bugs.

 

[Enter_Bluey]

Given her intelligence, experience, instinctive actions and such I think she'd use ubf quicker than bugs would use his extremely serious peak stuff

Her WC abilities are like 4 layers of stuff such as CM, law, and other shenanigans that bugs doesn't resist.

Does he have passives?

 

[Thanganimator]

Alice starts off at High 3-A, if UBF is used she could outstats Bugs fairly quick, current Alice is 6-D bordering on 7-D due to this ability, albeit that has taken some time.

So she wouldn't be powerful compared to Bugs to begin with, and if Bugs plays around, she can get above his level of 5-D, and since temporal dimensions are a thing, get faster than him too.

But yea, if Bugs doesn't take her out from the beginning she will just quickly get too fast for him to hit, and get access to her world creator abilities which can kill/incapacitate Bugs.

The question is whether she can perceive the author's world? And it's also a place that goes beyond the 5D structure.

 

[Thanganimator]

Given her intelligence, experience, instinctive actions and such I think she'd use ubf quicker than bugs would use his extremely serious peak stuff

Her WC abilities are like 4 layers of stuff such as CM, law, and other shenanigans that bugs doesn't resist.

Does he have passives?

Alice has lived for millions of years and is also an extraordinary genius; if she wants to reach nigh-omniscience, she'll have to wait for her abilities to develop. How fast is her UBF?

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

World Creators transcend time and space, as a result they are instantly aware of events in the timeline ie when Shiro manipulated the future, Kuro was instantly aware or when they were playing volleyball of all things, abilities like future sight was banned along with messing with the past.

Also they even perceive events across multiple timelines, and then you have stuff like Fate who Alice can transform into being able to perceive the past, present, and future, and the future has more than infinite possibilities.

But yea if she wants to be nigh omniscient all she has to do is transform into Fate with UBF, that's instant.

The other stuff like strength, speed etc takes a little more time, a bit ambitious, but with UBF she gains hax that allows her to null/seal World Creators, and she was confident she wouldn't lose against them despite the massive gap in strength and speed, so its fairly quick imo.

Edit: Also forgot, Alice even without UBF at this point was able to perceive Makina interfering from multiple temporal dimensions, so yea her senses are cranked.

 

[Thanganimator]

World Creators transcend time and space, as a result they are instantly aware of events in the timeline ie when Shiro manipulated the future, Kuro was instantly aware or when they were playing volleyball of all things, abilities like future sight was banned along with messing with the past.

Also they even perceive events across multiple timelines, and then you have stuff like Fate who Alice can transform into being able to perceive the past, present, and future, and the future has more than infinite possibilities.

But yea if she wants to be nigh omniscient all she has to do is transform into Fate with UBF, that's instant.

The other stuff like strength, speed etc takes a little more time, a bit ambitious, but with UBF she gains hax that allows her to null/seal World Creators, and she was confident she wouldn't lose against them despite the massive gap in strength and speed, so its fairly quick imo.

Edit: Also forgot, Alice even without UBF at this point was able to perceive Makina interfering from multiple temporal dimensions, so yea her senses are cranked.

Actually, possessing the Animation Tools already gives one nigh-omniscience compared to the world below, but anyway, the Animation Tools also have sealing.

Once someone possesses it, the animated characters cannot escape their world. Even if Alice is aware of it, it's not certain she has the means to break through the fourth wall to leave or bring Bugs back in, not to mention whether she can even bypass the seal is also unclear.

 

[Thanganimator]

Also, did she ever demonstrate the Enhanced Power Nullification & Sealing section? Or was it simply a statement? I mean, statements are usually used to back up the context for achievements, and in that section, I'm not sure how Alice used it.

 

[BoastJr]

Also, did she ever demonstrate the Enhanced Power Nullification & Sealing section? Or was it simply a statement? I mean, statements are usually used to back up the context for achievements, and in that section, I'm not sure how Alice used it.

She mentioned ripping off authorities of World Creator level beings and sealing them if they fought

The Other Nullification bit was done when Shiro and Kuro fought and they ended up nulling eachother's abilities (this was done 20,000 years ago before the mainstory)

 

[Thanganimator]

She mentioned ripping off authorities of World Creator level beings and sealing them if they fought

The Other Nullification bit was done when Shiro and Kuro fought and they ended up nulling eachother's abilities (this was done 20,000 years ago before the mainstory)

So, did those authors transcend space and time? Anyway, Bugs already has immunity power sealing and nullification.

 

[Thanganimator]

She mentioned ripping off authorities of World Creator level beings and sealing them if they fought

The Other Nullification bit was done when Shiro and Kuro fought and they ended up nulling eachother's abilities (this was done 20,000 years ago before the mainstory)

Anyways, what is your vote?

 

[BoastJr]

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Well yes, World Creators are not really bound by 4D stuff. Even a Digital monster who became a "God" and can control or destroy the world (in this context of the series would be a Universe) wasn't given the status of World Creator.

Anyways, what is your vote?

But Like Bluey and Pegasus has said

I think it comes down to who's quicker on the draw. Alice is very intelligent inseries and is more used to fighting stronger enemies or predicting weird abilities

I think alice would get the gist of it first and use UBF first

I think Alice has a better shot of winning imo

 

[Thanganimator]

Well yes, World Creators are not really bound by 4D stuff. Even a Digital monster who became a "God" and can control or destroy the world (in this context of the series would be a Universe) wasn't given the status of World Creator.


But Like Bluey and Pegasus has said

I think it comes down to who's quicker on the draw. Alice is very intelligent inseries and is more used to fighting stronger enemies or predicting weird abilities

I think alice would get the gist of it first and use UBF first

I think Alice has a better shot of winning imo

For me, Bugs with Animation Tools would be a big advantage.