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And that’s world salad to you somehow? Oh sorry, I guess I added a “Shameless, really.” at the end so it’s actually 3, and you can’t read more than two sentences.
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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread
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okay thats enough i just wanted to revive the conversation on aeon acausality
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i've yet to see good reasoning as to why type 4 wouldnt apply
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I’m not sure why it would apply. Most acausal movement in Hoyo is derived from the properties of realms, like those of negentropical spaces and the Imaginary Tree. Which are not applicable for any actual Acausality since it must be a property intrinsic to the character and not the realm. It’s why it was previously removed, too.
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Because the Trailblazer literally has it in 4.0? Like the divination doesn't work on Trailblazer, I don't know why finite and infinite possibilities are the problem when it's literally them being unbound by causality altogether. Heck, even the nature of Path of Remembrance itself is a time that transcends causality like how is this not Acausality type 4
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why does it not? i mean the wording isn't precisely clear but the aeons definitely tick some of these boxes
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can you explain this a bit more please?
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the statement is that they affect causality, the future and other things even with their mere presence or even gaze
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Alright so we are nuking Elysia's type 4 Acausality
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No.Because the Trailblazer literally has it in 4.0? Like the divination doesn't work on Trailblazer, I don't know why finite and infinite possibilities are the problem when it's literally them being unbound by causality altogether. Heck, even the nature of Path of Remembrance itself is a time that transcends causality like how is this not Acausality type 4
Normal causality is one that follows a linear progression of time, so T1 -> T2. Any other form of causality is Type 4. Like atemporal causality for example.
in some realms within Hoyo, like those with negative entropy, you can have stuff like effect prior to cause, or not following the linear progression of time derived from normal entropy.
This would be Type 4 if a character could do it by themselves, but unfortunately this is a property that is given by the realm itself, and not something the character has outside of it. So it doesn’t apply as a hax.
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Son.. i can literally give everyone in hi3 acausality type 4 with that logic…Because the Trailblazer literally has it in 4.0? Like the divination doesn't work on Trailblazer, I don't know why finite and infinite possibilities are the problem when it's literally them being unbound by causality altogether. Heck, even the nature of Path of Remembrance itself is a time that transcends causality like how is this not Acausality type 4
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Yeah so let's nuke Elysia's type 4 Acausality
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How about you go play the game to get scans to nuke that?Alright so we are nuking Elysia's type 4 Acausality
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Difference is elysia is explicitly stated to only exist through symmetry breaking with the imaginary and reality her existence IS acausality type 4 because shes not supposed to existAlright so we are nuking Elysia's type 4 Acausality
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no other character does this on the regular though? it's isolated in some cases such as acheron's, irontomb's, cyrene's and the aeons. if anything, other characters are described to have a predetermined "fate". this point was brought up again in this patch.
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Your point is very unclear, elaborate.
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Anyways Ima go to sleep, Ill respond tomorrow
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they don't have those actually, in hsr at least
fate and divination represent some form of determinism that governs reality. thats been mentioned again in this patch too. iirc yaoguang said it or smth. aeons are not merely unreadable within this system but actively disrupt or exist outside of it introducing outcomes that are not derivable from prior states. how does thhis nit imply that they operate under an irregular causal structure rather than simply resisting prediction?
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then they have no aca type 4 and no infinite possibilities
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brother i meant the everyday people of hsr
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Another instance of hi3 atoms
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Another common Welt WHI3 saving HSR and HI3 doesn't even know it
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For acs type 4 no because they dont exist on a different type of causality as the universe there needs to be more proof than just “they cant be precogged” because then you’d have the trailblazer having acausality type 4 and every hi3 human
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that goes back to what nova said. this is just the realm trait of the hi3 world/leaf. it wouldn't change anything for them. in the hsr one, its different. the tb also does not affect elio's scripts. kafka and the others have completed them successfully many times in the past even with their interference. aeons on the other hand, are a different case.
edit: i want to add to this, that the irontomb situation also unfolded differently as to what elio foresaw. cyrene/fuli's the other aeons' involvement opened the third path that had amphoreus saved.
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where is the english version....... at least give us subs
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Because I’m confused what this has to do with acausality. Because wherever it going on with Aeons and them going T1 -> T2 is not mutually exclusive
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Went back and read this and im kinda confused on some things
So (a)ether = soq (literally in the dudu VN so thats consistsnt ether makes the branes n what not)
dark zone = bubble world?
Mythus’ domain is a bubble world and mythus can just chuck bubble worlds to recreate the universe?
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