Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

[SuperNova55555]

Keep in mind this scan is from Mars or Venus... so it's a 200m years old at minimum and maybe 1B years old, and all the part 1, 1.5 and 2's sena stuff is more up to date. This scan is 2 years old btw.

Is there any good proof to suggest the Cocoon had a qualitative change during that timeframe? Cuz it might genuinely be that Cocoon’s ontology doesn’t inherently make it superior to the Tree in a power sense, it might js transcend it in a special way, but honestly this could be more Hoyo larping. I can’t be too sure until I consume all the lore myself…

Bro is there any scan you find blatant

I do this way more for LOTM btw. It’s js that the verse is more consistent in general so it doesn’t show.

 

[Mbpoops]

Is there any good proof to suggest the Cocoon had a qualitative change during that timeframe? Cuz it might genuinely be that Cocoon’s ontology doesn’t inherently make it superior to the Tree in a power sense, it might js transcend it in a special way, but honestly this could be more Hoyo larping. I can’t be too sure until I consume all the lore myself…

wdym bro? your ontology is superior to my own

 

[SuperNova55555]

wdym bro? your ontology is superior to my own

Cuz I’m 11D doesn’t mean I can destroy an infinite 11D structure… we do this for Aeons. Same applies for BDE1.

Honestly the whole thing seems wack…

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Is there any good proof to suggest the Cocoon had a qualitative change during that timeframe? Cuz it might genuinely be that Cocoon’s ontology doesn’t inherently make it superior to the Tree in a power sense, it might js transcend it in a special way, but honestly this could be more Hoyo larping. I can’t be too sure until I consume all the lore myself…

Literally js all the transcend statements, it existing on all dimensions, getting glazed this month by Senadina, etc. A 'special' way seems a little stupid given they specify dimensionality in some of the statements.

 

[Mbpoops]

Cuz I’m 11D doesn’t mean I can destroy an infinite 11D structure… we do this for Aeons. Same applies for BDE1.

Honestly the whole thing seems wack…

bro didnt get the reference

 

[Natsuki012]

anything to make loli yog #1 in hoyo ig

the game where she comes from doesn't have an english translation as far as i know

 

[Mbpoops]

the game where she comes from doesn't have an english translation as far as i know

it did got canceled tho

 

[SuperNova55555]

Bro… Furina liked my comment… I’m boutta hear some larp again.

Literally js all the transcend statements, it existing on all dimensions, getting glazed this month by Senadina, etc. A 'special' way seems a little stupid given they specify dimensionality in some of the statements.

Ye and I’m saying I’m not sure that’s inherently the level of the entire Tree, as weird as it sounds. Being outside the dimensionality of something doesn’t make you particularly transcended of it, in a way we care for scaling.

Is there like a statement that implies the Cocoon can unanimously affect all the other parts or branches of the Tree…? That’d be very helpful.

 

[RoninSlayer200]

it did got canceled tho

Wish it came back, it's lore looks genuinely interesting.

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

if COF is comparable to a img domain then its also comparable to false god otto who actually made one img domain himself, but this makes no narrative sense when Otto even while breaking free from tree control to make a specific branch had energy spike comparable to descent of PE Finality.
Let that sink in

Hoyo spent the entire moon arc saying anything and everything Honkai stems for the cocoon and then they drop a scan like that. Truly incredible

 

[Natsuki012]

it did got canceled tho

has anyone in thread played the game? feels like most who talk about ggz are larping

 

[Mbpoops]

Bro… Furina liked my comment… I’m boutta hear some larp again.


Ye and I’m saying I’m not sure that’s inherently the level of the entire Tree, as weird as it sounds. Being outside the dimensionality of something doesn’t make you particularly transcended of it, in a way we care for scaling.

Is there like a statement that implies the Cocoon can unanimously affect all the other parts or branches of the Tree…? That’d be very helpful.

i mean wasnt the cocoon gonna go to BDE1 anyway? i always found it weird how it was 12D yet beyond space... yk? it still controls all the honkai/imaginary energy its just spaceless and timeless

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Ye and I’m saying I’m not sure that’s inherently the level of the entire Tree, as weird as it sounds. Being outside the dimensionality of something doesn’t make you particularly transcended of it, in a way we care for scaling.

Is there like a statement that implies the Cocoon can unanimously affect all the other parts or branches of the Tree…? That’d be very helpful.

Well we know from Second Key that it effects all the MWI Honkai Impact worlds and that other worlds are being actively destroyed as leaves are wilting from the Tree and falling into the Sea.

Nothing about the entire tree though.

 

[Mbpoops]

Wish it came back, it's lore looks genuinely interesting.

its loli slop

 

[RoninSlayer200]

 

[Furina003]

Bro… Furina liked my comment… I’m boutta hear some larp again.

that means I agree with your opinion, friend, there is no hope that can reach the scale of a tree

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

that means I agree with your opinion, friend, there is no hope that can reach the scale of a tree

Furina on their way to scale Istaroth to the tree

 

[SuperNova55555]

Nothing about the entire tree though.

 

[SuperNova55555]

-> Called Imaginary Tidal Zones
-> Emanators are analogized to control the waves of the coast
-> Kiana is analogized the same way twice
-> Cocoon’s power level is equivalent to one of these tidal zones

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

This one.

Lol.

Funny weaver
1.Your own translations you used doesn't even align with the actual translation:
2. This whole scan is out of context.
I guess that's -200 points given to him
It comes from chapter 42
And this is mentioning about Sa
Its a letter written from Marah to Sa

 

[SuperNova55555]

Lol.

Funny weaver
1.Your own translations you used doesn't even align with the actual translation:
2. This whole scan is out of context.
I guess that's -200 points given to him
It comes from chapter 42
And this is mentioning about Sa
Its a letter written from Marah to Sa

Is the Abyss Sa or Cocoon…? Cuz even MTL gives me “Abyss” here

 

[Mbpoops]

i mean tbh yea nothing is spatially "above" the tree like that would be weird the only reason that i know kiana got 12D was because bde1 is a trash ability according to woomy at least

 

[Natsuki012]

should we really take a scan that we don't have proper context seriously?

 

[SuperNova55555]

should we really take a scan that we don't have proper context seriously?

Like what’s the exact source of this scan? I’m still wondering since I haven’t reached this part of the story yet

 

[Mbpoops]

Like what’s the exact source of this scan? I’m still wondering since I haven’t reached this part of the story yet

im wondering this aswell i mean we only have zane's comment to go off

 

[PedjaTarzan]

-> Called Imaginary Tidal Zones
-> Emanators are analogized to control the waves of the coast
-> Kiana is analogized the same way twice
-> Cocoon’s power level is equivalent to one of these tidal zones

Emanators (Herta) when u ask them to actually travel across img tidal zones and not use spaceships to travel instead

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

-> Called Imaginary Tidal Zones
-> Emanators are analogized to control the waves of the coast
-> Kiana is analogized the same way twice
-> Cocoon’s power level is equivalent to one of these tidal zones

Actually pretty funny how thoughts to make Emanators high 1-C via this train of thought would moreso just keep everyone out of high 1-C forever

 

[RoninSlayer200]

Is the Abyss Sa or Cocoon…? Cuz even MTL gives me “Abyss” here

Honkai is called Abyss in Sa and Vita's original planet. So it probably reverse to Honkai.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Honkai is called Abyss in Sa and Vita's original planet. So it probably reverse to Honkai.

Abyss is called Cocoon once by Vita i think, but when they talked about abyss on Venus it was just honkai that invaded the planet instead i remember sending bunch of yap about it in weavers crt

 

[Natsuki012]

is the translation even correct?

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

Is the Abyss Sa or Cocoon…? Cuz even MTL gives me “Abyss” here

What pedja and Ronin said

is the translation even correct?

Weavers?
No

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

Emanators (Herta) when u ask them to actually travel across img tidal zones and not use spaceships to travel instead

Why is nahralab the only one actually doing ts
Nahralab = CoF confirmed????!

 

[Mbpoops]

the whole time they were just referencing he genshin abyss

 

[SuperNova55555]

is the translation even correct?

Weavers?
No

MTL gives me pretty much the same thing... so either they used MTL or...

 

[Natsuki012]

Weavers?
No

 

[Jackof_noTrades068]

the whole time they were just referencing he genshin abyss

The way how this would be genshin’s best upscale possible lmfao

 

[Le'garde273]

I have to remind myself if the deepest part of SoQ are stated to be transcend honkai itself by unknown entity.

And not on the slightest have explanation about it later

 

[SuperNova55555]

Yo we better start believing that Marah is just as lobotomized as Herta, this is horrid bro

 

[Mbpoops]

Yo we better start believing that Marah is just as lobotomized as Herta, this is horrid bro

"we" as if he doesnt love downscaling the verse

 

[Mbpoops]

id like to get to the arc first tho i think im at like chapter 37 almost done with that