Invincible Season 4 General Discussion Thread

[Alexander]

More than three times? Werent it retconnected once lol, it's about Servantis how his story being a complete lie after all

Okay let me remember:
-he said that he didn't have parents and he was just born with this powers
-then we got the reveal that his father was part of the plumbers (this was fake), retconning the fact that his parents weren't special (i consider this a retcon because Max says jackcrap about Kevin or something related to his father)
-Then comes the retcon of him being a mutant and instead he is a Osmosian
-Then comes the retcon of Aggregor too.

 

[Lort15]

Okay let me remember:
-he said that he didn't have parents and he was just born with this powers

No? He said his parents kicked him out from the home as he destroyed their home actually in classic also it was mentioned in ua as well

-then we got the reveal that his father was part of the plumbers (this was fake), retconning the fact that his parents weren't special (i consider this a retcon because Max says jackcrap about Kevin or something related to his father)

Ye his father stuff is fake that's the retcon

-Then comes the retcon of him being a mutant and instead he is a Osmosian

He is still Osmosian but Osmosian doesn't mean he is an alien Osmosian a term that Servantis made up, Osmosian means Humans with super abilities

-Then comes the retcon of Aggregor too.

That's actually never mentioned in the show Aggregor's situation is kind of unknown and this is special to greg not actually kevin, basically all of his story retconned at once him not being an alien, not having a father he used to think and his thing being hunting Ben down

 

[Electronic74947]

What fictional media would yall say is the best at this? Provided it’s not just a media with normal humans or street tier-types

jjk's really consistent tbf

 

[Lort15]

jjk's really consistent tbf

I also guess so like them buffing the weapons or any other object with their cursed energy pretty much clears lots of things

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

 

[Da3ggman]

I hate that the show is so inconsistent that this is a valid response even if I know his ass should be one shotted by anyone in the war.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I hate that the show is so inconsistent that this is a valid response even if I know his ass should be one shotted by anyone in the war.

Something something rage power headcanon

 

[Mythic381]

Is there going to be a Viltrum calc for the show?

 

[Dinobot1996]

There's this unevaluated calculation, though the assumption that Viltrum is Earth-sized would probably make it a lowball after the co-showrunner confirmed that Viltrum is "a lot more jacked" compared to Earth when asked about the size.

 

[Mythic381]

There's this unevaluated calculation, though the assumption that Viltrum is Earth-sized would probably make it a lowball after the co-showrunner confirmed that Viltrum is "a lot more jacked" compared to Earth when asked about the size.

I see. Wouldn't it make sense to use the size used in the comic calculation?

 

[Dinobot1996]

I think the specifics on Viltrum's gravity compared to Earth's gravity only being provided for the comic version would get in the way of using that exact method to figure out the TV version's size.

 

[ByArrow]

Omni-Man (TV-Series) Update and Upscaling?

With the recent episodes of Invincible showcasing the Solar Disk and the destruction of Viltrum, I'd like to be the first to calculate the feats. Starting with the Viltrum feat, it's important to remember that Space Racer's gun is a negligible factor as not only did it do the least damage, but...

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[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Lmao

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Is the destruction of Viltrum more impressive in the show

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Cause they did this BEFORE reaching the core

Spoiler: Spoiler

 

[Saqphire]

Comics are canon apparently

 

[Reyne]

Comics are canon apparently

This doesn't mean anything for scaling purposes, or really anything else as both mediums have a different set of events. I get what he means though, which is that everything is official Invincible media.

 

[Randomuser3412]

They couldn't be canon to each other. Different, conflicting events take place between the comics and the TV show.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

They couldn't be canon to each other. Different, conflicting events take place between the comics and the TV show.

Probably both take place in the same multiverse/cosmology but are clearly two different continuities, Damien Darkblood returning from Hell being among the biggest changes from the comics to the show.

Inb4 BB eventually gets his own animated special that's just an animated adaptation of his prequel comics series lol!

 

[Mythic381]

Comics are canon apparently

Even if the statement is trying to entail that (I don't really think that's what the statement is supposed to mean) the standards are 100% not going to approve of this.

 

[Zyurtunder13]

Comics are canon apparently

I'm pretty sure that isn't what that statement is trying to say at all, and even if it was, what does that change anyways?

 

[ReturnofKhadz]

Planetary intent?

 

[57Dev]

I was wondering about a scenario. What if a Raganar showed up on earth before the Viltrumites had moved there. Meaning S1-S4. Kinda like how Doomsday did in Death of Superman.

How much do you think the story changes ?

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Someone should move the general DT link to here instead of the 3rd season DT

Invincible (Verse)

For detailed information about this franchise, visit the verse Wikis for the comic and the show. Invincible is an American comic book series written by Robert Kirkman, illustrated by Cory Walker and published by Image Comics. The series began publication on January 22, 2003, concluding on...

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[Saqphire]

I just realised. The show had Thragg pierce Nolan when he was standing still talking to Mark, while the comics had Thragg do it when Nolan was flying at his max speed

Thats a major blow cuz the comic feat was like the major justification for Viltrumites like Mark and Thragg scaling to MFTL+ in combat speed via travel speed nonsense

And I don’t think Thragg flew and attacked at max speed against an off guarded Nolan here

 

[FusionPrime0]

I just realised. The show had Thragg pierce Nolan when he was standing still talking to Mark, while the comics had Thragg do it when Nolan was flying at his max speed

Thats a major blow cuz the comic feat was like the major justification for Viltrumites like Mark and Thragg scaling to MFTL+ in combat speed via travel speed nonsense

And I don’t think Thragg flew and attacked at max speed against an off guarded Nolan here

The show gave us more feats tho, like Thragg moving his head to block Mark flying at him as fast as he could or Thragg reacting to Nolan flying at him and Oliver flying at him.

 

[StrymULTRA]

The real reason why he wasn't in was because he'd yell "WHERE'S OMNI MAN!?!?" all the time.

 

[57Dev]

Oliver really is a liability though. Like getting nearly ripped in half and head popped by Conquest wasn't enough to teach him to stay away from the big dawgs.

Also Invincible Versus is coming April 30. I am more so looking forward to ripping out the character models for cinematics.

 

[Saqphire]

The show gave us more feats tho, like Thragg moving his head to block Mark flying at him as fast as he could or Thragg reacting to Nolan flying at him and Oliver flying at him.

Fairs

 

[FuriousFieryFist]

This might be controversial, but I really like that the show buffed all the viltrumites to be on roughly the same level as opposed to weak ones being gored by single punches of strong viltrumites. It really makes them feel like an actual race of people and makes them much more intimidating when you can reasonably assume every one of them can pull off the same feats Nolan has done. I also liked how they treated Ragnars in the show as being above viltrumites but still comparable so that they can be killed one-on-one by viltrumites. Them being above pre-timeskip Thragg never sat well with me.

 

[57Dev]

This might be controversial, but I really like that the show buffed all the viltrumites to be on roughly the same level as opposed to weak ones being gored by single punches of strong viltrumites. It really makes them feel like an actual race of people and makes them much more intimidating when you can reasonably assume every one of them can pull off the same feats Nolan has done. I also liked how they treated Ragnars in the show as being above viltrumites but still comparable so that they can be killed one-on-one by viltrumites. Them being above pre-timeskip Thragg never sat well with me.

I actually liked that Ragnarr's were that much stronger.

Ragnarrs being to Viltrumites what the grizzly is to a human, is something far cooler.

 

[FuriousFieryFist]

I actually liked that Ragnarr's were that much stronger.

Ragnarrs being to Viltrumites what the grizzly is to a human, is something far cooler.

To each their own. I like the narrative that the race of supermen feared throughout the universe as unstoppable can reasonably overcome any creature in the universe with skill as opposed to being complete fodder to a random alien race that has high gravity on their planet. It highlights their battle skill when they need to fight strategically to win against them which is something we almost never see. Ragnars being unstoppable tanks that no viltrumite can beat alone results in really boring conflicts between the two.

 

[57Dev]

Ragnars being unstoppable tanks that no viltrumite can beat alone results in really boring conflicts between the two.

That's a really contradictory take. Viltrumites a race known to rely on individual strength being forced to work together in order to take out a beast if anything is far more interesting.

Viltrumites being able to beat any and everything is what's really boring.

 

[Zyurtunder13]

This might be controversial, but I really like that the show buffed all the viltrumites to be on roughly the same level as opposed to weak ones being gored by single punches of strong viltrumites. It really makes them feel like an actual race of people and makes them much more intimidating when you can reasonably assume every one of them can pull off the same feats Nolan has done. I also liked how they treated Ragnars in the show as being above viltrumites but still comparable so that they can be killed one-on-one by viltrumites. Them being above pre-timeskip Thragg never sat well with me.

Yes, obviously Nolan is easily one of the strongest Viltrumites ever, but he isn't so above the rest that he could just easily kill all the others with no effort, there are Viltrumites that aren't in the same range like Thula being inferior to Anissa and Nolan, then there's Thragg, who's obviously above all of them by a wide margin

 

[Zyurtunder13]

The music is simply amazing on this entire scene

 

[ReturnofKhadz]

 

[ReturnofKhadz]

Consistent with this
•https://www.deviantart.com/ryanottl...5737891#:~:text=This page was,was born. Enjoy!

This page was particularly different than most because Robert said in the script that I can do whatever I'd like, just make them both fighting. So I sat there and imagined what this fight would be like. I definitely didn't want them just trading punches, I could have went that route but I wanted to ground it a lot more. Thragg is definitely faster and stronger. So how can Battle Beast one up Thragg? Got it! Close combat, sneak a bite in! So that's basically how this spread was born. Enjoy!

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

 

[Mythic381]

Bro understood what most people here don't.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

exactly. I'm sure people are gonna take the first statement at face value but he literally goes on to say Thagg>BB in speed and strength doesn't mean Thragg just gets a free dub