Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Sus]

would Gojo blitz Naobito?

...yes

i don't really think so, that's why i said they are relative to Sukuna
Of course Sukuna's faster than them, by quite a bit, but not a humiliating bit as i see it, it is not something so impressive to think that they are relative to Sukuna

weakened 16f sukuna handled maki with one hand-

 

[Sus]

teen gojo blitzes toji who can at least keep up with naobito (arguably faster but eh)

 

[Rodriiogo]

would Gojo blitz Naobito? i don't really think so, that's why i said they are relative to Sukuna
Of course Sukuna's faster than them, by quite a bit, but not a humiliating bit as i see it, it is not something so impressive to think that they are relative to Sukuna

Ryu is someone comparable to Yuta who is therefore comparable to Maki (regardless of who you think is faster) and got done like this.

10% 16F Sukuna (And output DOES affect speed) also does this against awakened maki (faster than naoya) and rage amped CG Yuji at the same time:

16F Sukuna is at least 10x faster than them (faster than Naoya, and frankly Naobito as well) if we wanna apply a numerical value.

 

[Sus]

Ryu is someone comparable to Yuta who is therefore comparable to Maki (regardless of who you think is faster) and got done like this.

10% 16F Sukuna (And output DOES affect speed) also does this against awakened maki (faster than naoya) and rage amped CG Yuji at the same time:

16F Sukuna is at least 10x faster than them (faster than Naoya, and frankly Naobito as well) if we wanna apply a numerical value.

rereading the scene its so crazy


shes going for a punch
he ducks, touches the ground and uses cleave, then raises up and intercepts her relative my ass she was getting blitzed

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

10% 16F Sukuna (And output DOES affect speed) also does this against awakened maki (faster than naoya) and rage amped CG Yuji at the same time:

16F Sukuna is at least 10x faster than them (faster than Naoya, and frankly Naobito as well) if we wanna apply a numerical value.

This whole scene is really weird if you take Maki as being faster than Naoya, cause how the hell is Yuji keeping up lol
Last I recall he was getting perception blitzed by a non-stacked Naoya.

 

[Rodriiogo]

This whole scene is really weird if you take Maki as being faster than Naoya, cause how the hell is Yuji keeping up lol
Last I recall he was getting perception blitzed by a non-stacked Naoya.

Yuji is rage amped which allowed him to get a huge boost that even shocked Sukuna.
Same Sukuna who was in his body just moments ago and accompanied him throughout all of the Culling Games, so him getting shocked by his strength and speed proves he did indeed get alot stronger and faster from that amp:

 

[Zabazab]

cuz she's mentally nerfed

In regards to what she can see, believing she was the same as everyone now rather than beyond them.

The sumo fight literally shows her how she does become equal to him in a physical sense (mainly speed)

It doesn't.

Toji himself is stated to be able to handle Curseya's top speed.

Because of his senses, yes.

cause how the hell is Yuji keeping up lol

Sukuna himself is shocked that Yūji suddenly got so strong and then says "Right, this brat's from back then. Damn, that Kenjaku sure is twisted."

 

[SunDaGamer]

toji is also implied to be >> naobito
and it doesn't contradict his statement since toji is not considered a sorcerer

Never understood why people take Toji being able to wipe out the Zenin Clan as proof that he has to have better speed stats than Naobito.
If an injured Maki without Cursed Tools and without Toji's level of sensory abilities was able to beat Naoya while he was moving at his top speed then a fresh Toji with his standard kit (which includes a blade that shuts off Cursed Techniques and a sword that negates durability + deals soul damage) is gonna have no problem.

 

[Shey]

You don't understand, Toji can kill the Zenin so he MUST be faster than them even tho we've seen it can be done without being faster

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

 

[Nonynho]

omg they discovered my secret identityyyyyy

also, can y'all vote in the thread pretty please? real close to incon vote tally

 

[Giannysmag]

rereading the scene its so crazy


shes going for a punch
he ducks, touches the ground and uses cleave, then raises up and intercepts her relative my ass she was getting blitzed

It's not that crazy, she pulls back her fist preparing for a punch, he ducks while it's coming at him and because of the ground getting ripped apart she stambles and Sukuna gets an opening to hit her.

They were relative for the whole rest of the fight

 

[BiggestOpp]

a Naoya discussion without me???

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

a Naoya discussion without me???

yeah bro. when you're not here, I defend naoya...from megumi

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

What if Hakari had been in the Four Way Deadlock instead of Yuta? Do you guys think he can win or does he get clocked by Kurourushi like Yuta almost did?

 

[BiggestOpp]

What if Hakari had been in the Four Way Deadlock instead of Yuta? Do you guys think he can win or does he get clocked by Kurourushi like Yuta almost did?

Kuro gets full from eating Hakari for 30 minutes straight and leaves the colony. Uro just walks Hakari down

 

[Qurbonboev]

JJK sups are again talking about speed scaling. Just let it go, bruh.
We literally had staff thread talking about it recently, results of which aren't even implemented yet, but peeps are already trying to overwrite it.

Onto more productive discussions.
Did anyone tried to calc this shit? Could be good feat for Megumi?

Also, I have seen two different translations of this Kamo comparison of durability between Curse Naoya and Hanami? Which one is correct?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Naoya would find a way to lose to Potential man

 

[Rodriiogo]

Never understood why people take Toji being able to wipe out the Zenin Clan as proof that he has to have better speed stats than Naobito.
If an injured Maki without Cursed Tools and without Toji's level of sensory abilities was able to beat Naoya while he was moving at his top speed then a fresh Toji with his standard kit (which includes a blade that shuts off Cursed Techniques and a sword that negates durability + deals soul damage) is gonna have no problem.

Maki might be the only character that can move faster than another character on-screen more than once and get called an outlier and not true because for some reason JJK Fans got the spirit of Naoya inside them and think that woman being faster than Naoya in R/C is a crime when its more consistent than the other during their fight and the whole narrative between Naobito and Toji. (Naoya must have forgotten to use his blitz level R/C against Kamo with FRSS or Semi-Grade 1 Kamo is apparently faster than all of the Hei that Maki bltizes including the Grade 1s)

Did anyone tried to calc this shit? Could be good feat for Megumi?

The pixel scaling is nonexistent for some reason but it seems it'd be around 9-A.

Also, I have seen two different translations of this Kamo comparison of durability between Curse Naoya and Hanami? Which one is correct?

That one is the correct one. Curse Naoya is less durable and weaker than Hanami, it's why Kamo can take multiple hits and damage him. He only gets more durable when during his top speed stuff, the other one tries to say naoya is more durable for some reason lol

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

Maki might be the only character that can move faster than another character on-screen more than once and get called an outlier and not true because for some reason JJK Fans got the spirit of Naoya inside them and think that woman being faster than Naoya in R/C is a crime when its more consistent than the other during their fight and the whole narrative between Naobito and Toji. (Naoya must have forgotten to use his blitz level R/C against Kamo with FRSS or Semi-Grade 1 Kamo is apparently faster than all of the Hei that Maki bltizes including the Grade 1s)

I mean we have individuals who claim she doesn't scale to Unawakened Yuji in AP (Name starts with E btw) so Naoya might be within them

 

[OjeTheArcher15]

Mentality something very important in jjk
Characters do get stronger when not limited mentally
Uraume goes on a whole talk on how one's mentality affects their strength in jujustu
Sukuna CE drops when he's not interested in opponents which affects his speed and strength

Also I've heard this headcanon being pushed constantly but where was it stated that HR can't get stronger?

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Mentality something very important in jjk
Characters do get stronger when not limited mentally
Uraume goes on a whole talk on how one's mentality affects their strength in jujustu
Sukuna CE drops when he's not interested in opponents which affects his speed and strength

Also I've heard this headcanon being pushed constantly but where was it stated that HR can't get stronger?

Mai says, as long as she is here, maki will never be fully realized (This translation says fully develop but it basically means same thing. That as long as mai is alive, maki won't be at her full strenght). Mai dies and, later on, Maki is fully realized, imply that's her full strength. PLus, we also now there's a cap on the human body

 

[Mommyleona]

Mai dies and, later on, Maki is fully realized, imply that's her full strength.

So is baby Toji as strong as Adult Toji then, since he had full HR since birth

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Maki is a fraud. You people need to realise that

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

So is baby Toji as strong as Adult Toji then, since he had full HR since birth

a kid being born made curses stronger to supass him
a teenager got the same strength as a fully grown man in his prime so like...maybe.

 

[Saqphire]

a kid being born made curses stronger to supass him
a teenager got the same strength as a fully grown man in his prime so like...maybe.

Dawg that's Gojo. You can't compare other people to him as canonically stated lmao

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

jokes aside, ofc not.
young toji wouldn't have his scar from curses if he was maki level from birth

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Dawg that's Gojo. You can't compare other people to him as canonically stated lmao

2nd isn't gojo, it's literally describing maki equalling toji in his prime at 16

 

[Saqphire]

2nd isn't gojo, it's literally describing maki equalling toji in his prime at 16

Teen Gojo also fits the description + that Gojo neg diffed the Q who are grown ass men

 

[Mommyleona]

jokes aside, ofc not.
young toji wouldn't have his scar from curses if he was maki level from birth

then hr users can get stronger, and adult maki should logically be stronger than teen maki

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Teen Gojo also fits the description + that Gojo neg diffed the Q who are grown ass men

"on par with gojo" and "toji"...
man gege's glaze of toji is unmatched

 

[Shey]

jokes aside, ofc not.
young toji wouldn't have his scar from curses if he was maki level from birth

Why, is he invulnerable to harm from Curses?

 

[Rodriiogo]

Maki is a fraud. You people need to realise that

Okay Naoya

 

[Zabazab]

Heavenly Restriction isn't like sorcery. Sorcerers' strength is from Cursed Energy reinforcement and their mastery or manipulating Cursed Energy. That's something you can suddenly improve at, or get more lax with, since it's a conscious effort. Heavenly Restriction simply makes your physical body superhuman, so you can't suddenly change in strength like Sukuna's varying output or with the awakening of Black Flash. To get better stats, you need to train your body like any other human.

That logic, alongside the fact that nothing in Sakurajima Colony states Maki's stats changed after sumo, is why we know the boon of Heavenly Restriction is functionally static: being out of your groove won't make your muscles and bones weaker, but it will affect your control of Cursed Energy.

 

[Sus]

kashimo MIGHT be top 3

 

[Keshirou]

MBA Kashimo is actually top 3 (no Modulo)

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

MBA Kashimo is actually top 3 (no Modulo)

How is he top three if he can't get past Mahoraga?

 

[Sus]

How is he top three if he can't get past Mahoraga?

mahoraga is a technique

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Why, is he invulnerable to harm from Curses?

if he had fully realized maki stats from birth, a swarm of grade 3 to 2 curses ain't scarring him

 

[Sus]

can kenjaku beat mahoraga? he 100% knows about it but i dont think he has any attack that can one shot