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Adding plot manipulation resistance to Yogiri.
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sukuna171
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I’m thinking maybe something like a fate or causality erasure for his true form, achieved by upscaling from all forms of EE, kind of like causality erasure.
Instant death. Reflection. Time stop. Time reversal. Spatial severance.
Total erasure. Conceptual attacks. Causality erasure. Such things were
Total erasure. Conceptual attacks. Causality erasure. Such things were
Yoshifumi threw the knife. He had no intention of hitting Yogiri, so he
had thrown it in a random direction. It disappeared in the air, flying into the
past. Back to Yogiri’s past, when he was just a newborn baby, impaling his
pathetic, defenseless self. If he did that, the Yogiri in front of him would
disappear in an instant. The only one who would remember what had existed
before he changed the past was Yoshifumi himself. No one else would
believe he had existed in the first place.
A single person disappearing could create all sorts of paradoxes, but
things would work out to be consistent in the end. The weapon had the ability
to restore damaged space-time, so it could use other elements to make up for
the hole it created.
had thrown it in a random direction. It disappeared in the air, flying into the
past. Back to Yogiri’s past, when he was just a newborn baby, impaling his
pathetic, defenseless self. If he did that, the Yogiri in front of him would
disappear in an instant. The only one who would remember what had existed
before he changed the past was Yoshifumi himself. No one else would
believe he had existed in the first place.
A single person disappearing could create all sorts of paradoxes, but
things would work out to be consistent in the end. The weapon had the ability
to restore damaged space-time, so it could use other elements to make up for
the hole it created.
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Hmm Yogiri should get this from UMR's thread no ? I suggest discussing with him.
Also I think there's a bit of assumptions with saying he can do all types of EE you prolly need better evidence than that but iirc he has causality erasure so that should be fine.
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As I told you, so far the discussion is in my favor because plot manipulation still exists in the Fujitakaverse, and there are characters who possess it. If anyone objects, they can open another thread; otherwise, I don’t want the discussion to be derailed here.I am seeing a lot of comments like this despite not using a single vulgar language whereas you have said stuff like this
You aren't one to talk about tone when you rant about being a victim of a fanbase, If you think that I insulted you then I can confidently say that it was never my intent to furthermore I am not here to discuss about your feelings being hurt, if you think there's solid evidence of me insulting you then present it.
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I never credited myself as knowledgeable, idk about Dao but from my personal judgement he is knowledgeable. I cited the Plot Manipulation Page not my personal words. If you deem yourself knowledgeable then try arguing why your character fits the criterion rather than putting your ignorance on display ? If someone is being ignorant I will call them as such. I never slandered you for being ignorant not meant it in such way, All I did was ask for evidence.
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Adding plot manipulation resistance to Yogiri.
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If you didn't want to discuss the mysterious space then don't bring it up or don't address it, I replied to specific quotes and messages. If I didn't Quote you then it wasn't meant for you.
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Furthermore you are one to talk about staying "calm" when you have repeatedly targeted a fanbase, made accusatory & unfounded remarks about them, called people "idiots" and even straight up lied about others in an attempt to defame them.
Quote me saying one singular thing that I lied about or used purely as an insult. Take your words to your heart.
Yet you continue arguing something that isn't supported by the standards. I judge based on what I am seeing, I am not omniscient. Again argue why he meets the standards, I clearly quoted it and even explained it for you. I never attacked you or used your ignorance as a means to defame you but I genuinely recommend reading the standards.
Yogiri would have resistance to plot manipulation because no one can defeat him. Regardless of how powerful a character is, they would not be able to beat him—this is stated by the author. Even the omniscient absolute god himself has said that Yogiri is unbeatable and cannot be defeated; even he, as the all-knowing absolute god, acknowledges that he would not be able to defeat him. Therefore, all characters who possess plot manipulation would not be able to do anything against him.
Even characters who possess plot manipulation would not be able to defeat him or affect him. This does not depend on the translation of that text, but on the fact that Yogiri is the strongest in the work and cannot be defeated regardless of the opponent’s power, as stated by the author and as said by the omniscient absolute god—there is no statement above his.
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Dude PLEASE pack it up already, not trying to be mean-spirited right now when saying this but even Sukuna isn't going at it this hard, tell me what, if AT ALL, seems like any of this is in your favor when nobody is looking to be agreeing with you
Bring something new, or address what's at hand, or this thread is gonna be closed because it's just keeping something going that has no right to keep going on
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I thought he already had Type-4 no ? I think it's definitely doable
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Disagree
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this should be closed ngl
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You are not the ones who decide when the thread is closed. It will be closed only after the Instant Death experts arrive first.
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Yogiri > fiction, and be aware that whatever is written in his profile does not matter to me at all and will not change my opinion, nor the opinion of the fans, whether outside the community or even some within it.
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That was NOT necessary
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+1That was NOT necessary
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+1That was NOT necessary
Zanesucksatlife
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+1That was NOT necessary
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Mbpoops
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+1That was NOT necessary
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yall I swear on everyone on this wiki its his translator that is making him sound like that 
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-1yall I swear on everyone on this wiki its his translator that is making him sound like that
+1That was NOT necessary
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+1That was NOT necessary
Both Fate and Causality sometimes refer to the same concepts of "Karma" in fantasy novels (因果)
因果 - Jisho.org
jisho.org
So it might just be alternate ways to translate it. Both fate and causality manip can be argued here if that is the kanji being used
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When life gives you Resistance to NEP Plot, turn it into arguments for NEP-1 and AC-4
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Don’t bother yourself; they don’t want him to have anything. I feel sorry for you now, asking them with such good intentions.
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sukuna is way better at scaling ID ngl
sukuna171
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Don’t beat yourself up—the plot here is hard to get, and sadly in the final volume of Neechan wa Chuunibyou. It was confirmed that the story and protagonist are just a metaphor, so Fujitaka eliminated any chance of manipulating the plot.
Ahh, this has gotten a bit weird. I think we’ve gone in a meta direction,” Ende said.Ryoma’s deduction was a misunderstanding that Outers and those who learned about worldviews commonly fell into. Ende compared the various worldviews to stories herself, but to her, that was nothing but a metaphor. She had never thought that by thinking of the world as a fabrication, and yourself as a character in that world, that you could deny the world itself
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That applies only to her, and this is not the author's statement.
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I don’t understand why people neither understand nor let others understand.
Everyone interprets and sees things only the way they want, and the majority wins—not logic, but the majority—and because of that, Instant Death has always been left behind and never gets anything.
"It did everything and was the end of everything, yet it still didn’t get anything."
Everyone interprets and sees things only the way they want, and the majority wins—not logic, but the majority—and because of that, Instant Death has always been left behind and never gets anything.
"It did everything and was the end of everything, yet it still didn’t get anything."
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erm no, author literally said so
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There is a role that makes it impossible for the author to clearly answer that it is much weaker than Yogiri., as the author said.
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what the hell are you talking about.
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someone close this thread
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