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High 8-C (with leeway) Tiersetter Mortal Kombat Tournament (16/16)

I THINK you can just outwit Sandy regardless. People like to frame it as unbeatable but V can beat Smasher without a Sandy of their own.
V's kind of a monster on their own already. It would be more impressive for someone like Panam (who iirc is completely ganic) to be able to fight Smasher like that. I'd also say Takemura too, although I forgor which chrome he has (this fits what you're saying more)

Though, I don't think it can be restricted.
Edit: Fair enough. Don't back him up.
 
V's kind of a monster on their own already. It would be more impressive for someone like Panam (who iirc is completely ganic) to be able to fight Smasher like that. I'd also say Takemura too, although I forgor which chrome he has (this fits what you're saying more)
Panam can HELP beat him, but I don't think Takemura ever helps unless I am sorely mistaken
 
Basically: With V or David, you want an amp if they got Sandy, with Smasher, he's predictable enough that people can fight him without one, it's just harder.
 
I’d like to submit the Heavy from Tf2
 
I’d like to submit the Heavy from Tf2
Gravel or Robot war?

Do you want a specific loadout?
 
I’d like to submit the Heavy from Tf2
Isn't the tf cast being uphraded to 8-A or tier 7 ?
 
Hopefully Charles isn't too much. While he's usually in his helicopter, given the starting distance, Goro can potentially destroy his helicopter with a projectile before it has the chance to get away far enough to prevent Charles from rangespamming, thus he could force Charles to fight on the ground to which he can easily overpower him with his lifting strength. Of course, Charles has plenty of ranged attacks he can use to beat Goro, so both have potential ways of winning.
 
Hopefully Charles isn't too much. While he's usually in his helicopter, given the starting distance, Goro can potentially destroy his helicopter with a projectile before it has the chance to get away far enough to prevent Charles from rangespamming, thus he could force Charles to fight on the ground to which he can easily overpower him with his lifting strength. Of course, Charles has plenty of ranged attacks he can use to beat Goro, so both have potential ways of winning.
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Hopefully Charles isn't too much. While he's usually in his helicopter, given the starting distance, Goro can potentially destroy his helicopter with a projectile before it has the chance to get away far enough to prevent Charles from rangespamming, thus he could force Charles to fight on the ground to which he can easily overpower him with his lifting strength. Of course, Charles has plenty of ranged attacks he can use to beat Goro, so both have potential ways of winning.
Is it acceptable to take away his chopper?
 
Would a Doom Marauder be ok? It's 0.98 Tons of TNT, so it's within the AP range. If Marauder is too much, may I enter Part 1 Katana Man instead (I might swap him out later for Reze depending on how I feel)
Marauder is pretty tough, but it's fine, I'll add 'em.

For Katana Man, his suit durability seems very excessive, do you have to overcome it to hurt him?
 
Would I'd be able to nominate Ha Dowan (Post-Extraordinary Body Key). His base AP and Durability is 0.80 Tons of TNT (so 2.5x gap) but has Class M LS (113k tons, so a 1,008x LS advantage), hax like durability negation, 5x speed amplification ability, fear manipulation, stamina restoration ability (Indomitable Will, when active, it allows him to absorb the attack of an opponent and turn it into energy), and weapon mastery (when facing an armed weapon user, he can pick up a weapon and become a master with it automatically). If that's not enough, can I ask that he can use a singular item called "Black Lock" which amplifies his statistics (albiet an unknown amount), makes him painless, and has him controlled by a AI for the most efficient fighting methods.
 
Would I'd be able to nominate Ha Dowan (Post-Extraordinary Body Key). His base AP and Durability is 0.80 Tons of TNT (so 2.5x gap) but has Class M LS (113k tons, so a 1,008x LS advantage), hax like durability negation, 5x speed amplification ability, fear manipulation, stamina restoration ability (Indomitable Will, when active, it allows him to absorb the attack of an opponent and turn it into energy), and weapon mastery (when facing an armed weapon user, he can pick up a weapon and become a master with it automatically). If that's not enough, can I ask that he can use a singular item called "Black Lock" which amplifies his statistics (albiet an unknown amount), makes him painless, and has him controlled by a AI for the most efficient fighting methods.
How's Goro supposed to fight that?
 
How's Goro supposed to fight that?
Goro does have the 2.5x advantage in AP and Dura, and as long as Goro doesn't use a weapon, while Dowan is a decent brawler, he's never been trained in martial arts so he would get skill-gapped most of the time in hand-to-hand (unless he uses his unorthodox skills). Also, he has a mana limit of 4,000 and so some of his best abilities like Indom. Will (cost 500 mana), his dura-neg skill "Carving the Weak Spot" makes him have to use the skill first, place a "spot" on the opponent's body, and then hit that spot repeatedly (cost 1000 mana), and his 5x speed skill (booster is 300 mana) has a 30 second time limit, he can't use it with other skills, and once dispelled, has a 3 minute cooldown. Furthermore, while he does have shockwave creation, their not as easy to summon compared to Goro's projectile attacks, which will be very harmful against him.

(Also, not going to lie, some of the other candidates wash Dowan so he needs to get lucky with matchups too 😭. Kind of why I advocated for the Black Lock item use but will be fine if it's disallowed)

If that's still too much, I do have a backup from the same verse, Choi Sunjae. He has the same AP, Dura, and LS as Dowan but none of the hax (besides a limited attack redirection). He also get's skill-gapped and while way stronger in-verse (he's basically the strongest in the series so far), he has none of the hax that would make dowan more threatening in matches. Though his speed technique has been shown to outpace Dowan's 5x booster through his disciple's usage so there is arguments he could get a 5x speed increase with his speed technique, it's not "official" yet either.
 
Goro does have the 2.5x advantage in AP and Dura, and as long as Goro doesn't use a weapon, while Dowan is a decent brawler, he's never been trained in martial arts so he would get skill-gapped most of the time in hand-to-hand (unless he uses his unorthodox skills). Also, he has a mana limit of 4,000 and so some of his best abilities like Indom. Will (cost 500 mana), his dura-neg skill "Carving the Weak Spot" makes him have to use the skill first, place a "spot" on the opponent's body, and then hit that spot repeatedly (cost 1000 mana), and his 5x speed skill (booster is 300 mana) has a 30 second time limit, he can't use it with other skills, and once dispelled, has a 3 minute cooldown. Furthermore, while he does have shockwave creation, their not as easy to summon compared to Goro's projectile attacks, which will be very harmful against him.

(Also, not going to lie, some of the other candidates wash Dowan so he needs to get lucky with matchups too 😭. Kind of why I advocated for the Black Lock item use but will be fine if it's disallowed)

If that's still too much, I do have a backup from the same verse, Choi Sunjae. He has the same AP, Dura, and LS as Dowan but none of the hax (besides a limited attack redirection). He also get's skill-gapped and while way stronger in-verse (he's basically the strongest in the series so far), he has none of the hax that would make dowan more threatening in matches. Though his speed technique has been shown to outpace Dowan's 5x booster through his disciple's usage so there is arguments he could get a 5x speed increase with his speed technique, it's not "official" yet either.
I'll add Choi, it seems more reasonable.
 
Not sure if I’m pushing it, cause she’s literally slightly over the upper bound, but how About Yuki Shirai who’s at 16.78 Tons

She’s got really bad stamina from her terminal illness and her physical durability is unknown.
So She could lose to Goro if he either gets a direct blow against her or fights defensively to try tire her out realistically.
She’s also not super nimble either; she generally relies on her hair for parries or blocks rather than conventional dodging even though she can use her hair to crawl around Doc Ock style.

Win condition well, LS diff and AP diff, it’s really straight forward there.
 
Not sure if I’m pushing it, cause she’s literally slightly over the upper bound, but how About Yuki Shirai who’s at 16.78 Tons

She’s got really bad stamina from her terminal illness and her physical durability is unknown.
So She could lose to Goro if he either gets a direct blow against her or fights defensively to try tire her out realistically.
She’s also not super nimble either; she generally relies on her hair for parries or blocks rather than conventional dodging even though she can use her hair to crawl around Doc Ock style.
And if Goro gets hit once he gets smacked with a one-shot.

At least Ghazghkull might get headshot or have the dura neg claws stopped, Goro has nothing against a functionally 8-B character
 
Not sure if I’m pushing it, cause she’s literally slightly over the upper bound, but how About Yuki Shirai who’s at 16.78 Tons

She’s got really bad stamina from her terminal illness and her physical durability is unknown.
So She could lose to Goro if he either gets a direct blow against her or fights defensively to try tire her out realistically.
She’s also not super nimble either; she generally relies on her hair for parries or blocks rather than conventional dodging even though she can use her hair to crawl around Doc Ock style.

Win condition well, LS diff and AP diff, it’s really straight forward there.
Is she overly offensive with her hair?
 
Is she overly offensive with her hair?
Um yeah she really likes to Danmaku and opts for choking when she realizes she has a lifting strength advantage. She can maintain this even if someone cuts her hair since it’s included in her Mid Low regeneration. So it just grows back

And if Goro gets hit once he gets smacked with a one-shot.

At least Ghazghkull might get headshot or have the dura neg claws stopped, Goro has nothing against a functionally 8-B character
Eh yeah that’s fair, it’s more likely Goro gets destroyed physically before he tags her
 
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