Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Rodriiogo]

You are trying to convince me on what? Only actually strong convictions I had on this question and still have are:
1. Dabura is Sukuna level threat, and anyone that opposed this notion was delusional (for understandable reasons, Boruto severely damaged psycho of shonenfolk) at best.
2. Mahoraga was boosted by Death Binding Vow(geniunely where else this Chekhov Gun would have been fired?)
3. Dabura Dura scales to his KE
4. At least Yuji should scale to Dabura physically(Sukuna and Gojo can scale physically, but I don't particularly care).

The idea that Dabura is "above" Sukuna in scaling. Dabura's entire inverse narrative still comes from being a calamity/disaster on Sukuna's level and that never changed, the entire idea that Dabura got stronger in anything other than his immense talent for sorcery to learning techniques and abilities fast is ridiculous head-canon made by agenda pushers.

Ok. Make thread (preferably staff thread) to upgrade God tiers to relativistic combat speed. As I have already said, my main gripe with current ratings is that they pretend that combat speed feat is actually reaction speed feat.

Oh trust me, I 100% agree with you here aswell, I've been saying this on the discord server with everyone and everything. Said it here aswell before I think. I think the idea of them having hypersonic combat speed with rela reactions is dumb as hell and should just be Rela R/C straight up.

Do you have any ideas on how to fix this?
As a starter:
Downscale special grade output level from CG Yuta (he isn't special in neither physicals nor output). Mahito can downscale from half of that output(can survive 1 year Mechamaru output). For example, with current ratings it would look like this:
Domain amped Yuta scales to Ryu(scales currently to Uraume feat, 382.57 kT), base should scale to 318.8 kT. This would be level of special grades, Mahito would scale to 318.8/2=159.4 kT.
It probably wouldn't matter, verse is getting back to 8-A, so gaps between tiers would disappear naturally. (Btw, what happened with this calc)

I do think Disaster Curses should scale to 1/2 of special grade sorcerers baseline yes, then it just chainscales from there like how Todo should scale to 40% of Base Mahito's power.
As for the values, I still stand with the idea that the debunk on Mechamaru's feat was awful and filled with misinformation and lies on how it worked and that mods somehow agreed with 0 sense and alot of people I've talked to agree with this lol. I've been holding it right now because I want to make it with more calcs and stuff that I have prepared rather than just "put mechamaru back in and that's it"

 

[Qurbonboev]

At least Yuji should scale to Dabura physically(Sukuna and Gojo can scale physically, but I don't particularly care).

The idea that Dabura is "above" Sukuna in scaling

 

[BiggestOpp]

Gojo and Sukuna not scaling to Dabura, pack it up. I’m more interested in Disaster scaling

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Kuro>Disaster curses, idc (they fold bro like laundry siunce he's a domain vicitim and Hanami is more durable thanks ton curseya dura scaling but shhhhhhhhhhh )

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

honestly, once Disaster curses get their proper scale, Jogoat alone no domain folds kuro. He's genuienly a perfect counter to mans

 

[Qurbonboev]

how Todo should scale to 40% of Base Mahito's power.

If you buy this interpretation of percentages, 100% Mahito should scale to 100/40=2.5 of his repel shake feat, which is 214.5 tons.(It happened right after 40% statement)
(Till someone objects that Magnitude 5 earthquake would have been felt by hundreds of kilometers)

 

[Arkenis]

might be a Kashimo upscale, he helped ya'll homeworks

Fact he had so much to work with, yet didn't just shows me more Gege was so over the manga.

 

[BiggestOpp]

If you buy this interpretation of percentages, 100% Mahito should scale to 100/40=2.5 of his repel shake feat, which is 214.5 tons.(It happened right after 40% statement)
(Till someone objects that Magnitude 5 earthquake would have been felt by hundreds of kilometers)

Why would Mahito scale to that?

 

[Qurbonboev]

Why would Mahito scale to that?

To what exactly?

 

[BiggestOpp]

To what exactly?

To the earthquake feat, but ignore me I was larping. I just reread the scene and Mahito spawned the transfigured humans inside his hand so it definitely scale. I thought he spit them out and tossed them at Yuji/Todo
As for the multipliers…. Idk.

 

[AthelChan]

Fact he had so much to work with, yet didn't just shows me more Gege was so over the manga.

he's gonna be upscaled in the anime forsho

 

[BiggestOpp]

Fact he had so much to work with, yet didn't just shows me more Gege was so over the manga.

I’m pretty sure this is just another case of Gege just listing random shit that sound smart.

 

[Arkenis]

I’m pretty sure this is just another case of Gege just listing random shit that sound smart.

Nah cuz we got Gojo explaining math, Sukuna explaining his bs space slash, SSK explained, Projection sorcery and other shit, and Gege couldn't just drop some electromag concept?? Bro said his brain gets faster, he shouts a certain way and he shoots energy. Basically Jogo man

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I’m pretty sure this is just another case of Gege just listing random shit that sound smart.

I think Gege's smarter than you give him credit, mate

 

[BiggestOpp]

Nah cuz we got Gojo explaining math, Sukuna explaining his bs space slash, SSK explained, Projection sorcery and other shit, and Gege couldn't just drop some electromag concept??

And almost all of the stuff you just listed is still misinterpreted and misunderstood by a majority of the fandom.
That’s gotta mean something

Bro said his brain gets faster, he shouts a certain way and he shoots energy. Basically Jogo man

I think Gege's smarter than you give him credit, mate

he’s not a dumbass, but Gege has a streak of making or saying shit that seem smart but not totally understanding it or elaborating it further than basic stuff.

 

[Sus]

11toilets

 

[Arkenis]

And almost all of the stuff you just listed is still misinterpreted and misunderstood by a majority of the fandom.
That’s gotta mean something

The biggest manga and yet the most unread. A generation of posers, Sukuna would be disappointed.

 

[Sus]

yall think sukuna likes alcohol

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/batman-vs-the-strongest-sorcerer.190096/

That link doesn't least to anything.

 

[Arkenis]

W

 

[Arkenis]

Batman vs The Strongest Sorcerer

Votes:Votes: Nonynho, ShionAH, Anonymous_Learner Batman gets 2 weeks of prep. Gojo is completely unaware of Batman's presence in Japan. Muta gave him information on cursed tools but nothing in depth. He wants to detain Gojo, not kill. 1/5. Hopefully this is entertaining and not just "Batman...

vsbattles.com

 

[Arkenis]

what r the strongest characters without a domain i can only think of uraume and kashimo

 

[ShionAH]

Hakari is now Top 5 due to Modulo btw, Adult is Top 1

 

[Arkenis]

yall think sukuna likes alcohol

Yeah with his human thigh and some hishio

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

what r the strongest characters without a domain i can only think of uraume and kashimo

Kurourushi unironically since he would have slaughtered Uro and did pretty damn well against Yuta, damn near killing him if not for the Positive Energy dump he gave it.

 

[ShionAH]

did pretty damn well against Yuta

CTless Rikaless Yuta dawg

 

[Electronic74947]

First domain in the series btw larper

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

CTless Rikaless Yuta dawg

I do not care, that is still a High 7-C dude who Kurourushi almost cut in half.

 

[ShionAH]

I do not care, that is still a High 7-C dude who Kurourushi almost cut in half.

By "strong" if you mean like Top 20, then yeah. I took that question as like Top 10~15. Which would include Base Kashimo or Uraume but not someone like Kuro.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

By "strong" if you mean like Top 20, then yeah. I took that question as like Top 10~15. Which would include Base Kashimo or Uraume but not someone like Kuro.

Depending on who you ask in this thread Kurourushi probably beats Base Kashimo.

 

[Electronic74947]

By "strong" if you mean like Top 20, then yeah. I took that question as like Top 10~15. Which would include Base Kashimo or Uraume but not someone like Kuro.

Shion probably thinks hakari could beat sukuna

 

[Electronic74947]

Need to have the kashimo guy and shion in a boxing match

 

[ShionAH]

Shion probably thinks hakari could beat sukuna

Prime Modulo Hakari got it

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

What did Modulo even give Hakari? I don't remember him being in it at all.

 

[ShionAH]

What did Modulo even give Hakari?

Did you forget when he shows up and showcases that his domain is not the most refined of history and that when he hits a Jackpot he becomes completely immortal to any and all damage which he can reset with RCT to use his domain during it and make a unstoppable attack of gambling?? Silly goose, read the manga again!!

 

[Arkenis]

What did Modulo even give Hakari? I don't remember him being in it at all.

Nothing. He died after his luck ran out to a regular Glock 19 by some tier 9 Yakuza member. I'm not even kidding read chapter 32.

 

[ShionAH]

He died after his luck ran out to a regular Glock 19 by some tier 9 Yakuza member

Liar, Hakari would stall diff those idiots

 

[Arkenis]

First domain in the series btw larper

First domain is by the finger bearer you big fat phony.

 

[AthelChan]

do we deserve destruction?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Nothing. He died after his luck ran out to a regular Glock 19 by some tier 9 Yakuza member. I'm not even kidding read chapter 32.

Wait, deadass?