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Shaitan May Cry: Minor Updates

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So this would be some kind of super "Low-Godly Regeneration"? Since it deals with conceptual stuff from the get go and all that
More like Low Godly combined with a soul which often isn't present in the same universe.
 
I really doubt indexing this as Low Godly is even fair.
Just look at it in the reciprocal way.
Is Low Godly negation enough to stop DMC demons?
Is Mid Godly even enough?
Keep in mind that these guys/souls can exist independently of their Concept(Name), and can exist even if that is nuked.
And they can keep regenerating as long as their Souls exists. And their Souls are kinda more Abstract than their Concepts and characters will need specific NPI to interact with their AE1.

I think a combination of At least Low Godly and Immortality 8 from their Souls, would describe it better imo.

What do you guys think @Tony_di_bugalu @Random-Helper323 @SuperSonicTL
 
I really doubt indexing this as Low Godly is even fair.
Just look at it in the reciprocal way.
Is Low Godly negation enough to stop DMC demons?
Is Mid Godly even enough?
Keep in mind that these guys/souls can exist independently of their Concept(Name), and can exist even if that is nuked.
And they can keep regenerating as long as their Souls exists. And their Souls are kinda more Abstract than their Concepts and characters will need specific NPI to interact with their AE1.

I think a combination of At least Low Godly and Immortality 8 from their Souls, would describe it better imo.

What do you guys think?
The issue with going beyond Low Godly for lesser demons is that they don't regenerate their concepts; they survive without them.

Low Godly combined with abstract souls is definitely a start.
 
Ngl this Low Godly regen if soul + concept pretty much superior to avg Mid Godly regen. But wiki has strange rules about Godly regen
 
I really doubt indexing this as Low Godly is even fair.
Just look at it in the reciprocal way.
Is Low Godly negation enough to stop DMC demons?
Is Mid Godly even enough?
Keep in mind that these guys/souls can exist independently of their Concept(Name), and can exist even if that is nuked.
And they can keep regenerating as long as their Souls exists. And their Souls are kinda more Abstract than their Concepts and characters will need specific NPI to interact with their AE1.

I think a combination of At least Low Godly and Immortality 8 from their Souls, would describe it better imo.

What do you guys think @Tony_di_bugalu @Random-Helper323 @SuperSonicTL
I honestly don't know what to say... This should be Mid Godly but if regeneration is more straightforward about its details then I don't know what to say... Perhaps we can outline the fact that it is Low-Godly with traits of Mid-Godly but that would be too specific?
 
Its weird because it goes beyond conventional Low-Godly but doesnt qualify for mid godly cuz the soul and everything in it is still there

I guess they will just get some heavey/unconventional resistance to regen negg or something
 
Can someone ask Planck and maybe a few others to come and take a look? I already pinged him. There's currently a high stress issue staff are focused on, so I'll speak to ones that aren't as involved in it. Also, please don't get KLOL to ping the whole staff for this thread.

@Planck69 @Elizhaa can you come and take a look here, please?
 
to be honest with you, we are used to waiting for months

finishing this and the other one next year isn't much of a problem, its annoying tho

also sure, ill avoid the klol nuke button
 
to be honest with you, we are used to waiting for months

finishing this and the other one next year isn't much of a problem, its annoying tho

also sure, ill avoid the klol nuke button
I wasn't telling you to do something. Just asking you not to go that route. A request, not an instruction.
 
I am of the same opinion as Random on regeneration. At most I'd just note the unique nature of their souls/consciousness but it is still Low-Godly. Everything else is fine.
 
I am of the same opinion as Random on regeneration. At most I'd just note the unique nature of their souls/consciousness but it is still Low-Godly. Everything else is fine.
Thanks for responding.
 
Not sure that's typical regeneration though, more of an amalgamation of their souls after death.
that's spiritual/mental regeneration with species/name change on top. There's also Nightmare regenerating cores. But that's a top tier demon. We can just note spiritual healing exists after suffering soul damage for all demons.
 
that's spiritual/mental regeneration with species/name change on top. There's also Nightmare regenerating cores. But that's a top tier demon. We can just note spiritual healing exists after suffering soul damage for all demons.
I'm sorry, Gilver. It just seems like something else from what we can tell. You could bring this stuff forward later, especially since it clearly warrants something in addition to Low Godly.

@SuperSonicTL what's been accepted can be applied now. Let me know which pages need to be unlocked.
 
I'm sorry, Gilver. It just seems like something else from what we can tell. You could bring this stuff forward later, especially since it clearly warrants something in addition to Low Godly.
What do you think about Immo 8 from Abstract Souls + Low Godly?

EDIT: Godly Regen really needs to be indexed with Aspects, Type 1 for just physical, Type 2 for say soul, mind, memories, Type 3 for say concept etc. it would be a lot more specific and versatile too.
 
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The issue with going beyond Low Godly for lesser demons is that they don't regenerate their concepts; they survive without them.
They can, iirc. It's just the ones sealed by Sparda that can't. Wasn't there a scan in some DMC 2 guidebook which had Humans careful of calling the Names of Demons?
 
Ngl this Low Godly regen if soul + concept pretty much superior to avg Mid Godly regen. But wiki has strange rules about Godly regen
I honestly don't know what to say... This should be Mid Godly but if regeneration is more straightforward about its details then I don't know what to say... Perhaps we can outline the fact that it is Low-Godly with traits of Mid-Godly but that would be too specific?
Btw Anos has Mid Godly for similar reasons because of regenerating from Source.
Just pointing out how other verses have previously dealt with such wackyness.
 
Maybe we should check out the thread where that got accepted for Anos.

Still, this thread is accepted, I think it'd be easier to go over this with a later thread.
 
Btw Anos has Mid Godly for similar reasons because of regenerating from Source.

Just pointing out how other verses have previously dealt with such wackyness.
It tells us that he can regen from soul, mind, body being erased. So pretty fits current standards.

But beside it according to Agnaa our case still would be Low Godly. Personally I find it pretty strange since this should assume mind or soul being superior to another metaphysical aspects(Which metaphysical aspects page literally contradicts that) but ye this is some hilarious case where you have Low Godly being superior to most Mid Godly and High Godly regens
 
It tells us that he can regen from soul, mind, body being erased. So pretty fits current standards
Where did you even see Soul, Mind and Body erased for the Ingall spell?
But beside it according to Agnaa our case still would be Low Godly.
Link doesn't work, also not the sole authority. But will take his views into account.
Low Godly being superior to most Mid Godly and High Godly regens
Yeah lol. This is why I suggested Immortality 8 and AE1 from Souls + Low Godly.
 
Source is deeper than soul, mind, body. So I don't think this case would help us even. MGK is blatant and straightforward when it comes to haxes
You are responding with what Source is which I am aware of. Btw DMC is also blatant and straightforward with haxes and what Soul is. My question was
Where did you even see Soul, Mind and Body erased for the Ingall spell?
Get it now, which was in response to this
It tells us that he can regen from soul, mind, body being erased. So pretty fits current standards.
Now can you point out the erased part?
I got you. Just linking in mobile sucks.
Isn't Agnaa literally pointing out the flaws and the sillines of Godly regeneration in the thread? Which is kinda supportive of what we are dealing with.
 
Seems like Anos had this since his page was created, I will ask why it it Mid Godly from MGK friends
Tatsumi kinda gave an explanation for this, but that was almost 4 years ago. Also Immo 4 and 8 still stands.
They get MGR by default. Take Maou gakuin as an example. There's no mention of regenerating from mind or soul so regenerating with their concept gives them MGR so current standards still handles this easily. They simply skip LGR and get MGR.
For further reading,
Still no problems with the current standards either. It's possible to have concepts, info, plot that are greater than other concepts, info and plot.

In any case, if (N) is the most fundamental aspect and its confirmed that their concept, info, etc wasn't destroyed then regenerating because of (N) is simply immortality type 4 & 8.

If concept, info etc is confirmed to be destroyed then they get HGR + possible resistance to HGR negation depending on how fundamental (N) is portrayed in verse. If it's that the ability to negate regeneration from concept destruction can't negate regeneration from (N) then it qualifies as resistance to HGR neg for (N). If its not portrayed this way then once again, its just immortality type 8.
Also, the thread has a decent chunk of responses for several of my queries and suggestions. I suggest people to check it out once as it can be informative.
 
Guys, it's just a low-godly that functions as mid-godly or probably higher

let it be added as it is and if anyone ask then answer with the truth

Also where did immo type 4 or 8 come from? just don't overcomplicate this
 
Guys, it's just a low-godly that functions as mid-godly or probably higher
I was just pointing out older precedents and how others have handled it.🗿
let it be added as it is and if anyone ask then answer with the truth
And nobody will care, if we don't specify anything in profiles.
Also where did immo type 4 or 8 come from? just don't overcomplicate this
Did u even read one response I have sent till now?😭

Anyways just apply whatever is accepted as Random said.
 
Okay, let me know when it's done, okay?
Open these profiles:




Meanwhile, I'll apply the other changes.
 
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Open these profiles:




Meanwhile, I'll apply the other changes.
Done. Let me know when the edits are made, okay?
 
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