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The Boys discussion thread
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Same exact treatment as the MCU going over all their anti-feats and statements, visual showing differences, problems with current calcs and assumptions, etc. Same way I did there since the same thing applies here
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Oh this is going to be delicious.
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Well I said that during the MCU downgrade that the boys will get axed next for speed since that shit is mega fraud so yeah 
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I see no issues with the current calcs. As for anti-feats/ visual differences, assuming this is going to be used against Soldierboy, isn't being shown to be consistently able to fight someone with multiple scenes showing clear super speed enough? Unless you're heavily downgrading Homelander, too, which I also have an issue with.
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The speed scaling I really want to go after is God of War. That is one of the most horrible scaling I have ever seen.
And Monsterverse, because no way someone looked at building sized monsters that take two business days to turn around and said, "Yep, High Hypersonic and Solar system level."
And Monsterverse, because no way someone looked at building sized monsters that take two business days to turn around and said, "Yep, High Hypersonic and Solar system level."
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Ofc homelander is getting downgraded and whether you take issue or not is like
Thread will be made regardless
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You can argue your points in the thread when it's made.
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Eh sheer size is enough to get ratings like those if they are simply that massive even if they do appear slow but idk anything about those so I can't say if that's what its from or not
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To what? supersonic? That's the lowest that makes sense if you're going off statementsOfc homelander is getting downgraded and whether you take issue or not is like
Thread will be made regardless
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Untrue for combat and reactions but regardless I'll see when im done, probably just subsonic
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Okay I will make a rough attempt to calc A trains running feat in the Boys season 5. I'm not too savy with this stuff so bear with me.
Assuming Homelander's hv is ls. Which is ultimately for u to decide. I don't personally think it is so we'll just say this is the high end. i'm also doing this because hv is the only thing that moves there. Anything else would take too long and may be a lowball.
High End (Assuming Homelander's HV is ls)
According to Wikipedia the typical ratio of an individuals height relative to their arm span is 1. So I will assume for brevity sake that the span of a single arm would be roughly 46% of their height on average. Antony Starr's height is 1.8 meters making his arm 82 cms. By the time A train looks at Homelander, the HV is roughly half way thru his bent hands. Since it was a relatively small bend, I will assume that the angle of the bend was 160 degrees. I will also assume that both the forearm including the wrist and the upperarm is roughly 1:1 making both 41 cms and therefore means that the total distance the laser traveled was 41x1.97 which is 80.77 cm. The time the laser took to travel from halfway was 13 seconds.
The actual speed of light is 299 792 458 m / s meaning it would have travelled that distance in 1.35ns using t=d/s. Even at an absolute lowball A train traveled 10 meters within this time frame giving him a speed of 7.7 × 10⁹ m/s, which is 25.6 times the speed of light.
Obviously the arm length and stuff like the approximate distance A train traveled could have been done better using pixel scaling but i'm unaware of how to do that.
Assuming Homelander's hv is ls. Which is ultimately for u to decide. I don't personally think it is so we'll just say this is the high end. i'm also doing this because hv is the only thing that moves there. Anything else would take too long and may be a lowball.
High End (Assuming Homelander's HV is ls)
According to Wikipedia the typical ratio of an individuals height relative to their arm span is 1. So I will assume for brevity sake that the span of a single arm would be roughly 46% of their height on average. Antony Starr's height is 1.8 meters making his arm 82 cms. By the time A train looks at Homelander, the HV is roughly half way thru his bent hands. Since it was a relatively small bend, I will assume that the angle of the bend was 160 degrees. I will also assume that both the forearm including the wrist and the upperarm is roughly 1:1 making both 41 cms and therefore means that the total distance the laser traveled was 41x1.97 which is 80.77 cm. The time the laser took to travel from halfway was 13 seconds.
The actual speed of light is 299 792 458 m / s meaning it would have travelled that distance in 1.35ns using t=d/s. Even at an absolute lowball A train traveled 10 meters within this time frame giving him a speed of 7.7 × 10⁹ m/s, which is 25.6 times the speed of light.
Obviously the arm length and stuff like the approximate distance A train traveled could have been done better using pixel scaling but i'm unaware of how to do that.
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Sure thing
Tapkmiz
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every verse is now OFFYeah I’m sorry gang The Boys goin to Subsonic hell
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A pissed Homelander was reacting to the immediate environment around him, flying while chasing a-train, even if you axe the hypersonic+ feat, you still have that.
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I think it's been strongly established that Homelander's heat vision isn't LS I do believe it's faster than his own speed though.
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I agree. Has someone already made a thread on it? I might if someone hasn't.
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They can coexist because homelander was on the ground trying to laser someone while this speed would only be attributed to his flight speed. He is not flying in A-Trains statue feat.
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He should still be able to react to A train at least with his head. Unless of course that just means that A train was going slower whilst being chased by Homelander due to the injury on his shoulder.
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Doesn't need to be comparable in reactions tbh if he's already flying at a speed thats comparable to A-Train even if he is ultimately slower.
A-Train wasn't really doing complex maneuvers during the chase and loses some momentum on sharp turns so it wasn't exactly hard for homelander to give chase and try and aim ahead
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and homelander also had to plow through a tree and had minimal movements compared to even a-train
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Wow, I overestimated their budget.
This is at best the scent of pocket lint and the single nickel they were planning to fund this season with.
It felt like I was watching a lower budget CW show with that half hearted Scooby Doo running. Soldier Boy is slow as hell and that shield had no energy behind it if it could get stuck in a windshield.
They best stick to the night scenes. A-Train's last run was actually decent, not even just compared to the flight scene with Annie. I don't know if Homelander was psyching himself up to kill him or if A-Train was legitimately making him try. Regardless, flying through at least two trees or so is way more impressive than whatever the S4 fight scene in the Flat Iron Building was supposed to be.
Kimiko does indeed seem to be unkillable outside of the virus, which may not work on V1 as a whole. It shores up why Homelander would want it, on top of the bonus immortality it provides. Hopefully Ryan is somehow immune through shear might.
This is at best the scent of pocket lint and the single nickel they were planning to fund this season with.
It felt like I was watching a lower budget CW show with that half hearted Scooby Doo running. Soldier Boy is slow as hell and that shield had no energy behind it if it could get stuck in a windshield.
They best stick to the night scenes. A-Train's last run was actually decent, not even just compared to the flight scene with Annie. I don't know if Homelander was psyching himself up to kill him or if A-Train was legitimately making him try. Regardless, flying through at least two trees or so is way more impressive than whatever the S4 fight scene in the Flat Iron Building was supposed to be.
Kimiko does indeed seem to be unkillable outside of the virus, which may not work on V1 as a whole. It shores up why Homelander would want it, on top of the bonus immortality it provides. Hopefully Ryan is somehow immune through shear might.
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Why didn't Homelander's super-senses detect Soldier Boy's life signs here? :V
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The show fell off after Season 1 let’s be real, it just wasn’t quite as bad yet.
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The whole premise of him surviving pissed me off.
Before that reveal that scene actually kind of felt like it had weight.
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I mean we all knew he would survive. Literally spoiled that in the trailer with him meeting Jared and Misha. I think Soldier boy surviving is why Homelander will look for V1.
But the cg and vfx is really questionable in that forest scene. The rest is okay, especially Butcher's powers.
I never considered boys a particularly "good" show. Especially since I started watching on the premise of, "Let's hunt Supes with each supe requiring a different way to kill without powers." To be turned to what it is now.
But the cg and vfx is really questionable in that forest scene. The rest is okay, especially Butcher's powers.
I never considered boys a particularly "good" show. Especially since I started watching on the premise of, "Let's hunt Supes with each supe requiring a different way to kill without powers." To be turned to what it is now.
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Season 3 is the best season
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I liked all 4 seasons so far and the first 2 episodes of s5 seem really good so far too, idk why are so many people being so negative.
I'd argue SB surviving added way more weight to the scene than if he had died. It showed Homelanders reaction to him dying while also showing that the virus is in fact not strong enough to kill Homelander making it only a threat to the other supes. It'd also be very silly to hype up Soldier Boy's return just for him to die in 1 episode as a sacrificial pawn. Now however he's actually threatened by the existence of such virus since he knows it exists and works, and might even believe Butcher about Homelander using him as a sacrifice making SB a wild card that doesn't trust either side.
The 2nd episode opens up a lot of possibilities for where the story goes next and I think that's a lot better than if we only had the "go poison Homies milk tanks" way and nothing else
I'd argue SB surviving added way more weight to the scene than if he had died. It showed Homelanders reaction to him dying while also showing that the virus is in fact not strong enough to kill Homelander making it only a threat to the other supes. It'd also be very silly to hype up Soldier Boy's return just for him to die in 1 episode as a sacrificial pawn. Now however he's actually threatened by the existence of such virus since he knows it exists and works, and might even believe Butcher about Homelander using him as a sacrifice making SB a wild card that doesn't trust either side.
The 2nd episode opens up a lot of possibilities for where the story goes next and I think that's a lot better than if we only had the "go poison Homies milk tanks" way and nothing else
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Also remember, Homelander did NOT tell bro about the Supe Virus. This is going to bite him later
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He did. When SB got his hands on it he said "is this the virus Homelander was talking about"
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He meant Butcher not Homelander
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Personally, I really liked these episodes, actually. I didn't think that would be a hot take on here.
Episode 1 was definitely better than Episode 2 though. When I turned on episode 1 I thought I was watching a finale. It felt like so much climactic stuff was happening every single cut. I was hooked from the beginning cus wtf was that opening lol. Straight to the jump with the Flight 37 video, and I knew there were gonna immediately blame that shit on AI...
The acting is always phenomenal in this show and the humor is landing a lot better. It's still as on the nose as ever in terms of political dialogue but they are making it work somehow.
A-Train arc was good. Loved him going out just laughing at Homelander.
Sidenote, it is kind of comical how A-Train was just randomly the flash for like a single scene then went back to being a dollar tree speedster in the next scene ...
I don't really care about the scaling of the boys, but I am curious how that will affect things
Episode 1 was definitely better than Episode 2 though. When I turned on episode 1 I thought I was watching a finale. It felt like so much climactic stuff was happening every single cut. I was hooked from the beginning cus wtf was that opening lol. Straight to the jump with the Flight 37 video, and I knew there were gonna immediately blame that shit on AI...
The acting is always phenomenal in this show and the humor is landing a lot better. It's still as on the nose as ever in terms of political dialogue but they are making it work somehow.
A-Train arc was good. Loved him going out just laughing at Homelander.
Sidenote, it is kind of comical how A-Train was just randomly the flash for like a single scene then went back to being a dollar tree speedster in the next scene ...
I don't really care about the scaling of the boys, but I am curious how that will affect things
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Agreed, I enjoyed both episodes as well and I 100% understand and respect the critiques on it too.
Homelander making a fool out of the president feels so funny, but it shows how much everything has changed since Season 1 when Vought was practically begging for Supes to merely get into the military
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