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Mundus finally gets updated DMC

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Tony_di_bugalu said:
Fine, I won't argue the NEP 2 shit.

For cosmic awareness, this thing can let you observe and hear things over vast distances (with vast being interstellar o higher distances) since it acts as a combination of clairvoyance and enhanced senses. Thinking about it the ability is misused a ton since this should be more like the Beastheads bs that gives you infinite knowledge of the cosmos and everything in existence but that's irrelevant to me.
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what about this or nah?
 
nonexistent characters can still think and shit with their nonexistent minds

that's why nonexistent EE is kind of a thing also look at the dozens of characters with aspect 3
 
RedReaper616 said:
Again wanna mention the disagreement from before, with my stance that the Bangle is Soul BFR that can be resisted with Mental Fortitude, as stated iin the RAWs. (So Thread Mods/Admins can see). So it shouldn’t be a resistance to Time Manip and instead an additional justification for Supernatural Willpower.
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That actually looks like time hax combined with soul hax, somehow. And willpower to any extent doesn't typically protect from weird things like that.
 
Does the Bangle work on Nightmare? That'll tell us whether willpower is required or if it's just referring to power level.

Honestly though, willpower doesn't normally grant resistance to time stop, and the Bangle is definitely stopping time. This still looks like resistance to me either way.
 
Vietthai96 said:
Stop calling me bruhh, wait you can't ping me anyway lol

But anyway, scans implying strong willpower is a weakness of the bangle, so i'm leaning toward agreeing with RedReaper argument
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Okay this is just nonsense, wikis stance on willpower based feats being some weakness is just pure cope DT invented to cut OPM at its leg. Didn't agree with it then, don't agree with it today. Tell me with a straight face DC Green Lanterns or Gurren Lagan verse has this weakness lol
RedReaper616 said:
Again wanna mention the disagreement from before, with my stance that the Bangle is Soul BFR that can be resisted with Mental Fortitude, as stated iin the RAWs. (So Thread Mods/Admins can see). So it shouldn’t be a resistance to Time Manip and instead an additional justification for Supernatural Willpower.
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GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
This is already a resistance for General Tier Demon Lords and above on physiology page. I don't see why Mundus needs special addition.
I swear we used to have it on page.

Also using willpower definitions of wiki is useless as resistance for Bangle of Time. Willpower is legitimate and central mechanic of DMC which directly translates to magical energy. Having will power alone won't allow someone to resist the Bangle, especially crossverse battles. More willpower = More Magical Potency = More Resistance and Hax power.
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First and foremost, Wiki Willpower =\= DMC willpower. Willpower is literally the nucleus of DMCs theme/plot and magic system. Energy is derived from willpower. So every feat in the verse has willpower shenanigans to back them up. Just because Bangle has a statement for mental fortitude doesn't mean every other feat of power or resistance isn't based on WP. I can give grocery list of feats for that. You have to account for UES in verse, willpower alone by wiki definitions isn't going to help any verse survive/negate DMC hax/resistance.

Mention this as standard resistance, or just delete the entire physiology and energy page atp because I can legitimately substitute WP as replacement to every hax and resistance in the series.
 
That Fury demon species evolved immeasurable speed purely out of spite and willpower lol. If we make a profile for Fury someday are we going to note it's speed as "Supernatural Willpower" lol?
 
GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
That Fury demon species evolved immeasurable speed purely out of spite and willpower lol. If we make a profile for Fury someday are we going to note it's speed as "Supernatural Willpower" lol?
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Okay Gilver, I agree with you, but can you calm down a bit, please?
 
Okay then. It is pretty absurd to pretend you can resist time stop through conventional willpower. The fact that demons in DMC evolve based on their desires and will, and the fact we know for certain that mind and body are directly involved in wielding demonic power, this tells us that their willpower amounts to more than just what we view as willpower in our understanding.
 
This willpowe/love/hate/ humanity/spite/emotions etc directly improve quantity and quality of magical power.

That Credo Ascension ceremony scan directly gives Agnus' scientific observation about resolve = power, to the point even quantity of demonic power is inconsequential in comparison. Then you have Nicos demon analysis, another "scientist" Agnus daughter lol, then you have Dante's statement from DMC1 guide which is just the most spoon fed heavy handed pasta about the core theme of the series and it's direct ties to magic.
 
RedReaper616 said:
Again wanna mention the disagreement from before, with my stance that the Bangle is Soul BFR that can be resisted with Mental Fortitude, as stated iin the RAWs. (So Thread Mods/Admins can see). So it shouldn’t be a resistance to Time Manip and instead an additional justification for Supernatural Willpower.
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I changed it yesterday, didn't you see the OP?

Also kinda weird since, as Random said, Nightmare is practically immune and Mundus took his free will away

so what do we do there?
 
Nightmare is immune? That's telling, because it's literally mindless. It can't have strong willpower.
 
I never use that Bangle when i was playing the game, i have a tendency of not using items when playing the game, except using orbs to upgrade bruhh
 
its not an item, its another weapon breh

you missed on some good shit cuz it was mad fun especially if you had the super costume
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
its not an item, its another weapon breh

you missed on some good shit cuz it was mad fun especially if you had the super costume
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I just combo my way through the game, though it was fun circling around the battlefield
 
Tony_di_bugalu said:
Actually infinite speed is coming when this is over since the reason for the infinite speed debunk was that "mundus isn't a void/mundus is hiding in the void/mundus is hiding in the dark"

also bump
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isnt being above time = immeasurable? its explicitly stated that mundus is above the laws of time & space
 
Vietthai96 said:
Aware of something happening in a different dimension isn't cosmic awareness, just extrasensory perception with interdimensional or extradimensional range

I don't see NEP2 argument work, dude is just a void, he being superior to a nonexistent skull and merged with something preceding reality isn't an argument equivalent to character A is NEP and is also not existence and nonexistence.

Though it can get one layer deeper into NEP1

The rest seems fine
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