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The Pirate Hunter challenges another Sword Master to a duel (Roronoa Zoro{One Piece} vs Valencina{Project Moon}) 7-0-0 (Grace)

The scan that you yourself gave clearly states that he targeted one's vital points(i.e weakpoints) in order to use his Limited Durability Negation.
not true, he doesn't target a weak point, he understands the objects necessary vital points... That's something that's created when he cuts with his blade

The 3 knowledge he gains is what creates the dura neg, not him targeting weak points
Characters resisting statuses via blocking was accepted already
Not being the same as Zoro's ability
 
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not true, he doesn't target a weak point, he understands the objects necessary vital points... That's something that's created when he cuts with his blade

Not being the same as Zoro's ability
Vital points and weak points are literally synonyms of each other, your just arguing semantics here. And none of the scans in the profiles or the ones that you gave ever once said nor implied he can create weakpoints on those he targets, just that he grasps his targets information and find out what their vital points are.
 
Vital points and weak points are literally synonyms of each other, your just arguing semantics here. And none of the scans in the profiles or the ones that you gave ever once said nor implied he can create just that he grasps his targets information and find out what their vital points are.
no shit they are the same... You just don't understand it

I'll say it again... Zoro grasps the necessary force, timing and weak point for his blade against an object, all those 3 together is what creates the dura neg when he cuts objects

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He is not aiming at a specific weak point/area but making one based on his blade coming into contact with the object
 
no shit they are the same... You just don't understand it

I'll say it again... Zoro grasps the necessary force, timing and weak point for his blade against an object, all those 3 together is what creates the dura neg when he cuts objects

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He is not aiming at a specific weak point/area but making one based on his blade coming into contact with the object
Nowhere in this scan stated nor show that point was created and wasn't there before


Also I don't really get 2nd scan ngl, no mention of breathing, nor shown that, he just cut thing - or is it context thing?
 
Also I don't really get 2nd scan ngl, no mention of breathing, nor shown that, he just cut thing - or is it context thing?
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It's basically part of his swordsmanship, post timeskip is basically him utilizing it at all times
 
Nowhere in this scan stated nor show that point was created and wasn't there before
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This is when it happens, he never once in the show targets weak points... That's not what BOAT does
 
Contradicted to what

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he did, and he doesn't target specific areas or "weak points"
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Breathing is him understanding objects... The same way I can read your mind basically is what he does in a way to objects... And that allows him to dura neg... Not just by him cutting weak points in the objects
 
Breathing is him understanding objects... The same way I can read your mind basically is what he does in a way to objects... And that allows him to dura neg... Not just by him cutting weak points in the objects
yeah he undestand object by breathing and cut weak points
 
Alr tnx then idk how zoro has it
I've already told you how...
Zoro grasps the necessary force, timing and weak point for his blade against an object, all those 3 together is what creates the dura neg when he cuts objects

Zoro without BOAT already analyses and targets weak points
An analytical and alert fighter Zoro prefers to target lethal vital points from the get go.(quick to grasp the rhythm of battle, as a attentive fighter Zoro excels in analyzing his opponents to find their weakness allowing Zoro to create extremely effective countermeasures and combinations on the spot.
 
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Yes and his Breath Of All Things is just the same but better.
not fully the same... Better? yes

His breath of all things are applies his blade and how it functions
BOAT allows him to instantly know those points and angle on how to cut them

This doesn't cotradict anything
No, you are again removing stuff...

If I'm dunking a basket ball... Saying I simply only jumped is not true
 
no shit they are the same... You just don't understand it

I'll say it again... Zoro grasps the necessary force, timing and weak point for his blade against an object, all those 3 together is what creates the dura neg when he cuts objects

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He is not aiming at a specific weak point/area but making one based on his blade coming into contact with the object
This is literally just a distinction without a difference.
 
does he create a dura neg yes or no...? If yes, then the weakness is created

I've already shown
The absence of evidence ≠ evidence of absences, and Occam's Razor states that the simplest explanation is often the best one. With that said, there is nothing stating/implying that those vital points that Zoro grasps didn't exist prior so the simplest explanation here is that they already existed and Zoro's Breath of All Things simply allowed him to find out where/what they are.
 
First it's kinda way later in story i believe (like is it wano kek) and by this point there tons of stuff like haki that can be infused with blade but anyway

Power also can refer to said above "grasps the necessary force, timing and weak point" cuz you know... technique kinda matters when you fighting not just ap
 
And just like in real life where cheap knifes would still perform worse and not being intuitive enough to cut how you want them to cut same could be aplied here
 
First it's kinda way later in story i believe (like is it wano kek) and by this point there tons of stuff like haki that can be infused with blade but anyway

Power also can refer to said above "grasps the necessary force, timing and weak point" cuz you know... technique kinda matters when you fighting not just ap
and with that i also adressed point you said i missed


yes force alone doesn't cut thing you need many factors
 
The absence of evidence ≠ evidence of absences, and Occam's Razor states that the simplest explanation is often the best one. With that said, there is nothing stating/implying that those vital points that Zoro grasps didn't exist prior so the simplest explanation here is that they already existed and Zoro's Breath of All Things simply allowed him to find out where/what they are.
that goes against every showcase in the series. Again it's his blade that uses the necessary weak point against the object... Not that he just finds the weak point in objects
And just like in real life where cheap knifes would stiff perform worse and not being intuitive enough to cut how you want them to cut same could be aplied here
Zoro can have the sharpest knife and still not cut... And its not by just "find weak point" but by using the necessary power, timing and vital point against the object with the blade
First it's kinda way later in story i believe (like is it wano kek) and by this point there tons of stuff like haki that can be infused with blade but anyway
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The Essence of a Sword That Cuts Through Iron

● According to Zoro’s master, Koushirou, the strongest sword is one that possesses “the power to protect what you wish to protect and cut what you wish to cut.” It is a riddle-like principle—a sword capable of cutting through iron yet cutting nothing at all—but a similar teaching exists in Wano Country. “A good sword cuts through iron when you wish to cut, yet cannot even cut paper when you do not wish to! It all comes down to the swordsman’s heart!!” ————This is the secret technique used by the samurai of Wano Country when imbuing their blades with Haki.
It all about what the sword does... Not what it targets
 
anyway, I've stated and already explained it thoroughly... I'm done now (all of it is already on the profile)
 
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