Reinhard Can Astrea Re Zero Upgrade Revision

EL_xWatcher1234x · Mar 19, 2026

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Lynieryz · Mar 20, 2026

First you have to ask for the text to be translated.

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I'm almost certain it's not infinite, but rather gives the illusion of being endless.

That's irrelevant anyway since Reinhard is unable to destroy the tower because of the spatial barrier.[He literally couldn't save the royal family because he was unable to reach the Sage who was inside the tower]

ZeSteRxD · Apr 2, 2026

Sorry for late reply I wasn't active anyway.
Your claim about him couldn't bypass spatial barrier. About I'll say that it happens before the original story begins {Correct me if I'm wrong} at the time he might lack knowledge because we have seen multiple statements of him cutting space he even have it's hax on his profile and the world destroyed after the original story so it would make sense that he might gain that power later.

About illusion I'll say it's not true because of other description. I hope you read them.

Lynieryz said:
First you have to ask for the text to be translated.

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I'm almost certain it's not infinite, but rather gives the illusion of being endless.

That's irrelevant anyway since Reinhard is unable to destroy the tower because of the spatial barrier.[He literally couldn't save the royal family because he was unable to reach the Sage who was inside the tower]

Lynieryz · Apr 2, 2026

ZeSteRxD said:
Sorry for late reply I wasn't active anyway.
Your claim about him couldn't bypass spatial barrier. About I'll say that it happens before the original story begins {Correct me if I'm wrong} at the time he might lack knowledge because we have seen multiple statements of him cutting space he even have it's hax on his profile and the world destroyed after the original story so it would make sense that he might gain that power later.

Irrelevant; he already had Reid at the time, and even then he was unable to overcome the barrier.

ZeSteRxD said:
About illusion I'll say it's not true because of other description. I hope you read them.

You still need to have the text translated by the wiki translators; what we think is irrelevant.

Lynieryz said:
First you have to ask for the text to be translated.

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I'm almost certain it's not infinite, but rather gives the illusion of being endless.

ZeSteRxD · Apr 3, 2026

Lynieryz said:
Irrelevant; he already had Reid at the time, and even then he was unable to overcome the barrier.

You still need to have the text translated by the wiki translators; what we think is irrelevant.

Why do we need text to be translated isn't that already in English? or you want it in different language or something?

Let's talk about sword (Well it is relevant cuz due to lack of knowledge he never tried to cut that space imo. But later he actually cut through space here is the proof cuts through space itself and it happened after the original story so you need to disagree with his this feat. Which you can't since it's already been accepted by VSBW

Lynieryz · Apr 3, 2026

ZeSteRxD said:
Why do we need text to be translated isn't that already in English? or you want it in different language or something?

To have a reliable translation and not just any translation that some random person provides.

ZeSteRxD said:
Let's talk about sword (Well it is relevant cuz due to lack of knowledge he never tried to cut that space imo. But later he actually cut through space here is the proof cuts through space itself and it happened after the original story so you need to disagree with his this feat. Which you can't since it's already been accepted by VSBW

Irrelevant, Reinhard already had Reid and every attack with the Reid is a space cut.

The Dragon Sword, having been immediately given in response, was an Enchanted Sword that made it possible to cut things that could not be cut.

ZeSteRxD · Apr 3, 2026

Lynieryz said:
To have a reliable translation and not just any translation that some random person provides.

Irrelevant, Reinhard already had Reid and every attack with the Reid is a space cut.

Actually.... No! Reinhard needs to unsheathed his sword to do that which he only can against worthy opponent since tower wasn't his opponent he wasn't able to unsheathed his sword at the time. But because "PUCK" was a worthy opponent so his sword was unsheathed and that time it destroyed everything.. So ummm It doesn't disapprove my point and about translation Alright let me do it.

Lynieryz · Apr 4, 2026

The place the two reached after climbing all the way up the stairs was a white space that closely resembled the scene where the test was conducted on the third layer Taigeta.
Both the floor and the ceiling feel as though they extend endlessly, and it is a mysterious structure in which the sense of perspective is fundamentally distorted.
Indeed, the only thing that gives the impression that this white space is fixed as a place is, just like on the third layer, the gaping stair section that connects to the lower floor.
Wwwhat, this room again?

One of the texts was translated and it's practically what I said. The floor is specifically altering the perception of whoever is inside, making it seem infinite.

It was as if the ceiling simply didn't exist in the infinite white space, like the whole floor of the tower had been expanded. Because of that, Subaru could look down at the entire room from above.

This also renders the other text useless since it's a description from Subaru's perspective, whose perception is being altered by the floor.

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diamond arms “Is it ugly? This is my true form—the form of one who has lived through eternal ages and wandered endlessly across the reaches of space-time.” So my friend did the translation and this is the result, is this right or wrong?.

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ZeSteRxD said:
Actually.... No! Reinhard needs to unsheathed his sword to do that which he only can against worthy opponent since tower wasn't his opponent he wasn't able to unsheathed his sword at the time. But because "PUCK" was a worthy opponent so his sword was unsheathed and that time it destroyed everything.. So ummm It doesn't disapprove my point

No, you're getting confused. Reid's condition is that it cannot be unsheathed in the presence of someone unworthy. You're stating the opposite, that it can only be unsheathed in the presence of someone worthy, and that's the opposite of what the story explains.

Reinhard: [The Dragon Sword Reid is an unparalleled blade, which has been passed down since the first generation of the Astrea family, but it does have one flaw. It refuses to be unsheathed in the presence of any enemy it deems unworthy.]

Subaru: [Which means?]

Reinhard: [It seems that the sword has concluded that this enemy is not worthy of being drawn against.]

In the case of the barrier, there was no enemy, so the condition is irrelevant and Reid can be unsheathed.

ZeSteRxD · Apr 4, 2026

Lynieryz said:
One of the texts was translated and it's practically what I said. The floor is specifically altering the perception of whoever is inside, making it seem infinite.

This also renders the other text useless since it's a description from Subaru's perspective, whose perception is being altered by the floor.

Official Translation Requests Thread (New forum)

diamond arms “Is it ugly? This is my true form—the form of one who has lived through eternal ages and wandered endlessly across the reaches of space-time.” So my friend did the translation and this is the result, is this right or wrong?.

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No, you're getting confused. Reid's condition is that it cannot be unsheathed in the presence of someone unworthy. You're stating the opposite, that it can only be unsheathed in the presence of someone worthy, and that's the opposite of what the story explains.

In the case of the barrier, there was no enemy, so the condition is irrelevant and Reid can be unsheathed.

I'm actually dealing with the translator now since I'm new you need to kinda wait for it.
Let's talk about "DRAGON SWORD" what I said and what you said have same meaning but from different angle and the reason I bring it was to tell that the sword can't be unsheathed against the tower but It can be unsheathed against "PUCK" That was my point which you ignored and since it was unsheathed against puck and destroyed the world and the sword can cut through space as well so the tower barrier was useless as well from the moment sword was unsheathed and about enemy and your last point maybe you're getting it wrong.
"The text says world was destroyed so everything inside the world is also destroyed by the sword destruction hence tower should also be destroyed as well and this all happened because of "PUCK" Not some random NPC"
I hope this helps you to understand where I'm coming from

Lynieryz · Apr 5, 2026

ZeSteRxD said:
I'm actually dealing with the translator now since I'm new you need to kinda wait for it.

You misunderstood the translator; they already translated the Japanese text in their first message. It's among spoilers; you have to click on the giant "SPOILERS" in their message to see it.

ZeSteRxD said:
Let's talk about "DRAGON SWORD" what I said and what you said have same meaning but from different angle and the reason I bring it was to tell that the sword can't be unsheathed against the tower but It can be unsheathed against "PUCK" That was my point which you ignored and since it was unsheathed against puck and destroyed the world and the sword can cut through space as well so the tower barrier was useless as well from the moment sword was unsheathed and about enemy and your last point maybe you're getting it wrong.
"The text says world was destroyed so everything inside the world is also destroyed by the sword destruction hence tower should also be destroyed as well and this all happened because of "PUCK" Not some random NPC"
I hope this helps you to understand where I'm coming from

You misunderstood again, reread my message. Reid can be used for anything as long as there's no one unworthy near Reinhard.

Lynieryz said:
No, you're getting confused. Reid's condition is that it cannot be unsheathed in the presence of someone unworthy. You're stating the opposite, that it can only be unsheathed in the presence of someone worthy, and that's the opposite of what the story explains.

Reinhard: [The Dragon Sword Reid is an unparalleled blade, which has been passed down since the first generation of the Astrea family, but it does have one flaw. It refuses to be unsheathed in the presence of any enemy it deems unworthy.]

Subaru: [Which means?]

Reinhard: [It seems that the sword has concluded that this enemy is not worthy of being drawn against.]

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In the case of the barrier, there was no enemy, so the condition is irrelevant and Reid can be unsheathed.

ZeSteRxD · Apr 5, 2026

Lynieryz said:
You misunderstood the translator; they already translated the Japanese text in their first message. It's among spoilers; you have to click on the giant "SPOILERS" in their message to see it.

You misunderstood again, reread my message. Reid can be used for anything as long as there's no one unworthy near Reinhard.

Brother I think you didn't get what I mean right? Since i never said that there was any enemy around barrier I said "PUCK" was worthy do you even remember? Or what? Later Reinhard destroyed the world the same world contains pleadies tower remember? Since the world was destroyed the tower was also destroyed.
I never said tower was destroyed because of some random NPC or reinhard withdraw his sword around tower. When reinhard withdraw his sword to kill PUCK he destroyed the entire world and tower as well. {If you still didn't understand what I meant then can you tell me what i said? So I can understand where you're having trouble to understand such easy thing}

About spoiler thing can you quote me that? SPOILER BOX since Idk where to find it

Lynieryz · Apr 5, 2026

ZeSteRxD said:
Brother I think you didn't get what I mean right? Since i never said that there was any enemy around barrier I said "PUCK" was worthy do you even remember? Or what? Later Reinhard destroyed the world the same world contains pleadies tower remember? Since the world was destroyed the tower was also destroyed.
I never said tower was destroyed because of some random NPC or reinhard withdraw his sword around tower. When reinhard withdraw his sword to kill PUCK he destroyed the entire world and tower as well. {If you still didn't understand what I meant then can you tell me what i said? So I can understand where you're having trouble to understand such easy thing}

I think I'm going to give up arguing with you, you don't understand anything. You brought up Reid as an argument that Reinhard couldn't use it during the time of the barrier but could use it now during the destruction of the world to overcome the barrier. Problem with that:
1° Reinhard already had Reid at the time of the barrier.
2° You then argued that Reinhard couldn't unsheathe it because there would have to be someone worthy there.
3° So I explained that's not how it works and that it can be unsheatheed anywhere as long as there's no unworthy person nearby.
4° Then out of nowhere you stopped understanding the whole discussion we were having and started saying unrelated things.

ZeSteRxD said:
About spoiler thing can you quote me that? SPOILER BOX since Idk where to find it

Go to the translation thread and check the first message the translator replied to you.

You have to click on this:

Here

ZeSteRxD · Apr 5, 2026

Lynieryz said:
I think I'm going to give up arguing with you, you don't understand anything. You brought up Reid as an argument that Reinhard couldn't use it during the time of the barrier but could use it now during the destruction of the world to overcome the barrier. Problem with that:
1° Reinhard already had Reid at the time of the barrier.
2° You then argued that Reinhard couldn't unsheathe it because there would have to be someone worthy there.
3° So I explained that's not how it works and that it can be unsheatheed anywhere as long as there's no unworthy person nearby.
4° Then out of nowhere you stopped understanding the whole discussion we were having and started saying unrelated things.

Go to the translation thread and check the first message the translator replied to you.

You have to click on this:

Here

Ok so Now I try to think from a different perspective are you trying to imply that Reinhard can unsheathed his sword around tower since there would be no unworthy? {You got to be kidding me if you're claiming that}

Point 1 : Yes he had but he can't use it
Point 2 : Yep
Point 3 : That's exactly what I said but from different angle {As Long as You don't agree with the other thought I gave it since It won't make sense}
Point 4 : Nope you're the one who aren't understanding my point and putting your claim above all you didn't even answer the question I asked before. And... What kind of unrelated things?

TRANSLATION :

O.... K?

Zabazab · Apr 5, 2026

I disagree.

The Pleiades Watchtower does have a floor or two with endless size, but it's achieved through the expansion of space via Yin Magic. There'd be an argument if it was destroyed from the inside, but it's not. The outside of the tower is finite, and destroying it would destroy the floors within it.

And Satella's Castle of Shadows doesn't scale to anything or to anyone. It's a pocket dream-realm similar to Echidna's Castle of Dreams.

Zanesucksatlife · Apr 5, 2026

Reading and disagree with the thread

ZeSteRxD · Apr 5, 2026

Zabazab said:
I disagree.

The Pleiades Watchtower does have a floor or two with endless size, but it's achieved through the expansion of space via Yin Magic. There'd be an argument if it was destroyed from the inside, but it's not. The outside of the tower is finite, and destroying it would destroy the floors within it.

And Satella's Castle of Shadows doesn't scale to anything or to anyone. It's a pocket dream-realm similar to Echidna's Castle of Dreams.

Isn't the tower Non-Euclidean and destroying it from outside or inside it would be remain same because of it's volume and what's the proof that Shadow garden and Castle of dreams are pocket realm? And let's assume they are pocket realm {Which they are not until you give proof } Anyway let's just assume now I have a question can't pocket realm be scale?

Trxyway · Apr 5, 2026

Disagree, should be boundless.

Trxyway · Apr 5, 2026

ZeSteRxD said:
Anyway let's just assume now I have a question can't pocket realm be scale?

You can only scale what you know. Pocket realms of unknown size wouldn't mean much

Zabazab · Apr 5, 2026

ZeSteRxD said:
Isn't the tower Non-Euclidean and destroying it from outside or inside it would be remain same because of it's volume

Destroying the tower would destroy the mechanisms that artificially expand space in the Library through Yin Magic.

ZeSteRxD said:
Anyway let's just assume now I have a question can't pocket realm be scale?

Because the Castle of Shadows is mental in nature rather than physical. It's dreams and souls. Not to mention there's no elaboration on its nature beyond being akin to the Castle of Dreams, so I don't consider it relevant for power scaling.

Maybe it will be one day, but not now.

Emils_tempest · Jul 15, 2026

ZeSteRxD said:
Next is Satella. The scans indicate that Satella’s Shadow Garden lacks the concept of time. https://ibb.co/KjSFy2b3

Where does the statement that satella's dimension has no concept of time come from

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