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Ascendance as in you become an angel and return to earth as an antagonist in ChainsawModulo
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Chainsaw Man discussion thread
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All covered, and will happen in the coming months.
Planned. I will begin to complete Part 2 profile additions and renovations, after everything else is dealt with.
Anonymous_Learner
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LoooooooooooooooooooL.
This mid ending is the best thing ever happen, idc.
This mid ending is the best thing ever happen, idc.
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So if Yoru swinging her Michigan sword actually scales to her AP ( assuming it retains the same weight and calcing the KE )
It got to be like 6-A or even High 6-A yeah? ( given the state is bigger than many countries )
It got to be like 6-A or even High 6-A yeah? ( given the state is bigger than many countries )
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Is Shakespeare really dead?
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No, it would be High 6-C. However, the K.E would scale to the swords durability due to it's formation.
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That low??? I would assume swinging something heavier than the average country at such high speeds would be way higher than just Island level???
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I am talking about scaling the destruction caused by the formation of the sword to its AP, not the K.E of swinging it. That would not work because Yoru's weapons are shown time and time again to be lighter than their original state. An example of this is the building sword. Yoru can turn a building into a sword and carry it without difficulty, but when she is trampled under a building she is unable to free herself from its weight and is pinned.
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tbf in my original message I said "assuming it retains the same weight"
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Oh I misread then. My mistake. It would be High 6-A if that were the case.
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I hope the International Assassin's arc in the Anime gives us a throwaway statement about Hell's size ( it's endless ) then shows Darkness affecting the whole realm passively
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"Mid" more generous than Kenjaku
Anonymous_Learner
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I gave it mid solely from the memes it gave us, they're fun."Mid" more generous than Kenjaku
DaMonkeMan
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Still begs the question of how he can erase people and why he has the umbilical cord scarf though
DaMonkeMan
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I'm pretty sure an afterlife already does exist in CSM. After Aki died we saw him playing in the snow with his brother.
We also saw Pochita and Denji in a place that resembles where they first met, as well.
I think heaven exists in CSM or at least a "personal heaven" does.
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Chainsaws used to be medical tools for childbirth (in real life), so probably Pochitas umbilical cord is referencing that
But honestly a loosen umbilical cord is not that weird to be put into any devil design, with how a lot of their designs are gore
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It was mentioned and noted as strange, but we were given the root of its existence. Hypothetically chainsaws could have had many uses, but after multiple things were erased, cutting down trees was the only one that remained.
So the derivative of his existence erasure is essentially a domino effect of multiple concepts being erased. This means that any prior use of chainsaws related to erasure was itself erased.
I am not sure about the umbilical cord point though. Is that not just his intestines? It seems far too long to be an umbilical cord anyway.
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Ngl to you bro
I feel like Fujimoto truly had the idea of making Pochita the Life/Birth Devil or something prior but then changed his mind cause clearly he kept trying to do stupid subvertions during Part 2 for the sake of it....such as retconning "Fami" to actually being Death ( which went nowhere )
Also chainsaws original use IRL is for childbirth+leash on a dog analogy
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The previous conceptual Chainsaw is weird. I wonder what it related to. Maybe something with the Garden of Eden? Or it could've been one of the four alternate ways humans passed on before Chainsaw Man ate them.
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Likely the latter.
Edit: As I mentioned it has something to do with the domino effect that Barem brought up which led to the many different uses of chainsaws being erased. So here it is basically saying that the thing they were used on was erased so chainsaws were no longer used for it because it no longer exists.
It is similar to the Fumiko documentation where despite ears no longer existing as a concept ear picks were instead sold as arts and crafts products. This shows that the use of an object can change based on a concept that was erased.
Edit: As I mentioned it has something to do with the domino effect that Barem brought up which led to the many different uses of chainsaws being erased. So here it is basically saying that the thing they were used on was erased so chainsaws were no longer used for it because it no longer exists.
It is similar to the Fumiko documentation where despite ears no longer existing as a concept ear picks were instead sold as arts and crafts products. This shows that the use of an object can change based on a concept that was erased.
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Arkenis
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Yeah I always figured its just intestines but he always ends up having it as a style. Could fit into the fact his power is eating things. I've seen the birth devil but I do wonder maybe he's supposed to be the glutton devil. It'd fit with the idea Denji's always seeking more after getting something. Fits even more how Denji solved the problem by eating Makima. There's the fact Nayuta gets revealed while Denji is eating, even after this we see he still wants more in life talking about finding a new family. How Denji escaped the Aging devil's world through eating. And of course as we just saw Pochita saved the world through eating and yet again Denji and Power speak about eating a bunch as the last page. There's a couple other things but I can also see the birth devil being something since the fakesaw has what looks like a placenta cape.
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DaMonkeMan
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Doesn't the food realistically just fall right out of her anyway?Oh yeah and Fami being into eating too.
Oh right lol
Could've sworn I heard about a spiritual/religious reason for the tree thing but I can't find it now.
Arkenis
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I don't remember that but since she has the hole maybe?
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I'm guessing it probably gets sucked into some death void or smth, because either her uniform would always be getting dirty as she doesn't take it off to eat or Denji would always be licking it off the ground, considering not even Aki's scabs were spared.
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In volume 19 omake she shows to nobana pics of she ******** (her "massive dumps")
So her digestive system still works properly, somehow
(She not having the hole in her torso here may be her appearance being "reconned" later, or the omake art of her seen belly not being canon or she disposed of all her organs later on in the story)
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Even the PlayStation UK Twitter account is getting in on the slander.
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The Dream Devil theory never really worked for me. Mainly because when Fujimoto wants his characters to feel nightmarish or surreal in dream or trance sequences he makes that very clear. For example when Denji tried to fight the Falling Devil for the second time and was put into that nightmarish trance.
It also undermines the reasoning behind Pochita erasing himself. They were consumed and their "dream" ended. Denji talks about wanting things like intimacy and a loving relationship, but Pochita suggests that maybe those desires are not so simple. Even when Denji achieves some of his goals, like finding a family, going to school and forming a connection with Asa, he is still not satisfied.
Pochita recognizes that Denji thrives in harsh conditions because he is always chasing something more. As stated, he has the kind of mind that can only find heaven while in hell.
Denji and Pochita being eaten can be seen as a consequence of Denji being Chainsaw Man. That endless cycle of violence eventually catches up to him. Because of Chainsaw Man, Denji is never truly satisfied and always wants more. Instead of choosing between right or wrong, he chooses whatever aligns with his own desires.
Denji does not follow rules. He wants to be Chainsaw Man, but he also wants a normal life, and then even more beyond that. That constant desire is part of who he is.
In a world without Chainsaw Man, Denji can keep dreaming in a healthier way. He can come to understand himself without being constantly targeted and having what he cherishes killed or destroyed. People would see Denji, not Chainsaw Man. That allows him to exist as his own person and finally live outside of that endless cycle.
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Natural Disaster/elements devil:
Sea Devil: The embodiment of the sea, it can generate a huge torrent of water inside of people or outside of anything, he has a special technique where he summons the whole ocean, the depth of it is so deep that it is deeper than the Mariana trench, and "it will take weeks for humans to reach the bottom".
His personality is of a person who is like a emo and he looks completely block and with black clothings, he is also very sweeaty (his favorite food is coca cola)
Earthquake Devil: the embodiment of earthquakes or the earth, she can cause vibrations that can kill people or even shake the ground, if they use to much of this, they could end up destroying the whole world, or at least, reach the scenario where they split the earth and cause continental shifts.
Her personality and appearence is that of a mole who digs the earth, and she likes to collect shiny things.
Tornado Devil: the embodiment of tornados or the wind, they can generate a big tornado that if big enough, can cover whole continents or even reach outerspace.
their personality is one of a more stoic and "trying to be cool" individual, which is why all of their appearence is cool.
Sea Devil: The embodiment of the sea, it can generate a huge torrent of water inside of people or outside of anything, he has a special technique where he summons the whole ocean, the depth of it is so deep that it is deeper than the Mariana trench, and "it will take weeks for humans to reach the bottom".
His personality is of a person who is like a emo and he looks completely block and with black clothings, he is also very sweeaty (his favorite food is coca cola)
Earthquake Devil: the embodiment of earthquakes or the earth, she can cause vibrations that can kill people or even shake the ground, if they use to much of this, they could end up destroying the whole world, or at least, reach the scenario where they split the earth and cause continental shifts.
Her personality and appearence is that of a mole who digs the earth, and she likes to collect shiny things.
Tornado Devil: the embodiment of tornados or the wind, they can generate a big tornado that if big enough, can cover whole continents or even reach outerspace.
their personality is one of a more stoic and "trying to be cool" individual, which is why all of their appearence is cool.
Arkenis
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Yeah that makes sense. It could just be he decided to make it less concrete here with just the moon like head? What do you think those devils were anyway? They're like the only devils who appear more unique compared to the insects.
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Definitely primal just off the sea being partly to do with the unknown like darkness.
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To be frank I could not directly tell you. But I will say that the Devil with the moon shaped head was most likely not an insect. If you look at his design his head is shaped like a crescent moon, and his torso and upper thigh remind me a lot of a spaceship or parts of one. That also makes me think his multiple limbs could represent something like a flag.
I get the impression from the visuals that this Devil may be tied to the moon and could represent some kind of connection to the insect apocalypse. I am not completely sure, but it seems most likely that it is based around space, the moon and astronomy like rockets.
I do not have a strong explanation for why though. The other Devils do look more insect like, for example the centipede and the one on the far left, though I cannot say exactly what it is. For the most part it's just important to note that they are narratively tied to the insect apocalypse.
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Darkness is not really the unknown devil but okay
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