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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

Of course not. He is physically strong, but if he were to face someone with skill like Pochita he would lose. He also loses to Yoru and any Primal Fear excluding a weakened Falling.
 
Kinda crazy to imagine any hybrid (other than Miri Sugo, that bum) could mid-diff Denji at worst now.
None of them have any real reason to target him now other than possibly unexplainably disliking him from the moment they see him.
 
Epiccheev said:
Kinda crazy to imagine any hybrid (other than Miri Sugo, that bum) could mid-diff Denji at worst now.
None of them have any real reason to target him now other than possibly unexplainably disliking him from the moment they see him.
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Thw Goat Katanna Man will still beef with Man wielding chainsaw (or at the very least power with Denji being collateral) vuz of the zombie devil shenanigans and they'll both get negged (Nayuta victim tho)
 
Even Peak human potential would be him being Yoshida level, wich should be enough to beat some of the weaker hybrids. Maybe a little higher if Nayuta lets power accumulate more blood than Makima did.
 
Breadbear83 said:
What building material for the destruction value should i use for my aquarium Spear AP calc (of the building being destroyed, regardless if enviriromental destruction or not)

Here are some scans of the outside of the aquarium and the inside if it helps seeing what material to use, like if rock, concrete, reinforced concrete or others?
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I understand that the material used for buildings in Japan is usually reinforced concrete. So I suppose that’s the most reasonable one to use.
 
Just to make sure I understand, the reason we don't use Makima hurting Darkness on her AP section anymore is cause we assume it's not "bang" she used on him since she didn't say anything and thus assume it was some kind of other durability negging technique via her TK?
 
AnimesFreak2 said:
Just to make sure I understand, the reason we don't use Makima hurting Darkness on her AP section anymore is cause we assume it's not "bang" she used on him since she didn't say anything and thus assume it was some kind of other durability negging technique via her TK?
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Uh.... Yes?
 
I havent been checking out the thread due to ending shenanigans so what are the status on calcs, scaling and CRT ? I see JJK is still using anime feats for Sukuna so are we still not touching the Movie due to the new anime canon rule ?
 
AnimesFreak2 said:
via her TK?
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Not via TK no, bio manip. It's the ability that uses the least assumptions for a power as mysterious as Hemorrhage Inducement.

DaMonkeMan said:
Is this really the reason for it?
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One of them yeah. Every instance of Makima and Yoru, and now Nayuta using Bang had them audibly say "bang". There's other, even more significant reasons though.
 
Bruh said:
I havent been checking out the thread due to ending shenanigans so what are the status on calcs, scaling and CRT ? I see JJK is still using anime feats for Sukuna so are we still not touching the Movie due to the new anime canon rule ?
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JJK is preparing to remove anime feats, we're just slow
 
Can Batman solo all CSM with the exception of Pochita/Gun Devil and Primals?
Assume he starts incognito and therefore has prep time as needed to start soloing, but cannot use anything except resources from the CSM verse itself, however if Makima/other targets becomes aware of him prep is over and they will attack.
 
Knowing the BS Batman gets with preptume, he 100% solos all of CSM with zero exceptions.
realistically tho, idk nothing about batman
 
Not much resources to use so nah I don't see him winning against the horsemen or really even some of the random devils like Justice, Doll or Eternity.
 
Epiccheev said:
Can Batman solo all CSM with the exception of Pochita/Gun Devil and Primals?
Assume he starts incognito and therefore has prep time as needed to start soloing, but cannot use anything except resources from the CSM verse itself, however if Makima/other targets becomes aware of him prep is over and they will attack.
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He still needs the knowledge to use resources of the verse, he quickly would found out basic things about devil's physiology cuz Aki implied that they teach things like What Fiends are at schools

For defeating a primal devil he'd need some way to incapacitate them which only another primal devil could, if he can pull out a decent progression of using convenient weaker devil's contracts up until he gets to convince a primal devil to give him a good devil contract for a good price, he may get to defeat primal devils
 
Wonder if he would take devil deals. In a way it's almost impossible to avoid as it's the verse powersystem for humans, but he's pretty wary of using magic normally.
Considering i didnt give him DC resources, i think it would be more fair if he started as a Devil Hunter and had his time to study the organization/world and was forced to progressively get tasked with killing stronger devils.
I will think morw about this and post it as a fun and games thread.
 
Anonymous_Learner said:
Knowing the BS Batman gets with preptume, he 100% solos all of CSM with zero exceptions.
realistically tho, idk nothing about batman
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Only post crisis batman has that absurd 2C prep time, nearly the rest are fodder, except post flashpoint (at most 4B), DCEU (Low 7B) and injustice (high 6C) with powered armor, but even with the AP Gap some batmans can have to most or all of the CSM verse, they hardly can bypass levels of immortality

In speed, surprisingly post crisis batman is not one of the fastest batmans, but most are subsonic to high hypersonic, prob there's one version of batman who's MFTL+ who would actually speed blitz a mid tier and higher of CSM
 
Aaaaa11112222 said:
is denjiman and pochita the same level of strength
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Yeah, as denji states that he got Pochitas devil's abilities, and his high school genius together, so would have same physicals as it's not stated or shown he's stronger

Like brothers, denji, and Pochita carry each other on their scaling with pochita's physical feats and Denjiman speed feat of dodging the Moon spear
 
Breadbear83 said:
Yeah, as denji states that he got Pochitas devil's abilities, and his high school genius together, so would have same physicals as it's not stated or shown he's stronger

Like brothers, denji, and Pochita carry each other on their scaling with pochita's physical feats and Denjiman speed feat of dodging the Moon spear
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"THE PERFECT DUO"
"with my powers and your stupid crazy mind, we will be unstoppable"
 
Epiccheev said:
Can Batman solo all CSM with the exception of Pochita/Gun Devil and Primals?
Assume he starts incognito and therefore has prep time as needed to start soloing, but cannot use anything except resources from the CSM verse itself, however if Makima/other targets becomes aware of him prep is over and they will attack.
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Knowing that mf he'd find some way to replicate Pochita's erasure but still couldn't bring himself to erase the Primals ( since it's a worse form of death in a way ) and would just threaten them to leave Earth forever

In the case of Primals who wanna die like Aging he'd still BS his way out of it
 
Zabazab said:
Not via TK no, bio manip. It's the ability that uses the least assumptions for a power as mysterious as Hemorrhage Inducement.


One of them yeah. Every instance of Makima and Yoru, and now Nayuta using Bang had them audibly say "bang". There's other, even more significant reasons though.
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I don't think it makes sense to believe she can only use it if she says bang lol. I'm pretty sure that's a more stylistic choice
Like how some animes/mangas have the characters name every single attack they do. It's just got a "cool" factor to it I suppose
 
Arguing that it is just a stylistic choice is not a good point when "bang" itself is treated as a trigger for the ability. They also produce fundamentally different results. For example the Darkness Devil slumps over after blood runs through each of his mouths rather than being visibly struck by something with immense force as "bang" usually demonstrates.

A while back Zab made a very good comparison that made this much clearer.
The ability used on Darkness:
  • Is used silently
  • Causes massive internal hemorrhaging, no external damage
  • Applies no force, Darkness simply keels over
  • Doesn't travel (bypassed the force-field Darkness has)
  • Negates durability (harmed Darkness Devil despite it being invulnerable in the dark & Makima barely being able to damage Pochita who is < Darkness)
Meanwhile, the finger-gun used throughout the Control Devil Arc:
  • Requires the word "Bang" to be said
  • Causes a powerful physical impact, like a huge invisible bullet
  • Applies an extreme amount of force, enough to blast Pochita into space
  • Travels (seen when Makima launches Pochita into space)
  • Doesn't negate durability (slightly damaged Pochita, but he tanks multiple blasts without issue)
The only thing they have in common is a similar, not identical, hand gesture when used.
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Better justification is warranted for that ability so it can be clearer. It will be covered, granted I remember after everything related to Part 2 is complete.
 
GunshyFever said:
Arguing that it is just a stylistic choice is not a good point when "bang" itself is treated as a trigger for the ability.
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Again you can sort of argue that for any attack in a Shonen manga lol
The other points I can't argue against though. It does have different results compared to her usual finger shooting attack. And it's not like she can't use other forms of attacks as Nayuta can whip people with chains.
So it's definitely possible this was separate from her finger gun.
Robo432343 said:
Part 3 gon be peak🔥
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We only really need it to explain more about hell and what devil Pochita is imo
Though it'd be nice for some of the characters (like Fami) to get more development and screentime.
 
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