Unpopular Opinions and (Friendly) Rant thread

[Epiccheev]

Imo the greatest fun in a roguelike is creating the most overpowered and broken characters possible and maybe even breaking the game, making it overly balanced makes thing a bit boring.

 

[AppleMaker]

Some more lukewarm takes from me:

1. Fun and games matches are way more entertaining than Versus threads matches. F&G is overall the most enjoyable part of the forum
2. Debating weak/incompetent characters (preferably in 10-C tier and who are absolutely unskilled in combat/overall really dumb) is way more interesting than debating tier 1 or even tier 2 characters
3. Some real world animals need CRT's (chimpanzees, orangutans, secretary birds, boars, cassowaries and etc)

 

[AppleMaker]

Also off topic, but can omnipotence be limited? For example, character can do anything in their own dimensions, but outside of them he's a regular dude

 

[Nierre]

Unrelated but what's your prediction for Bully before it comes out on a scale from 1-10?
Also what do you think will be the best thing to drop tomorrow?

6 out of 10
better than Vultures 2 and Donda 2, but a little worse than as Vultures 1/Jesus Is King

Stove God Cooks will probably be the best hands down NGL. I don't listen to him much at all but he's very consistently good and I don't think Bully or ADL will be better. Bully is getting first listen from me tho.

 

[AppleMaker]

Also I don't understand one thing about commentary YouTubers - why are they often say stuff like "they admitted to it"? Like, you already have lots of proof and testimonies/witnesses on your side, why do you make an accent on that one specific bit of information? Does it even matter what perpetrator says about their actions, if you have more than enough evidence to know they actually did it? Why commentary YouTubers are often end up sounding like confession is the worst part of any situation, rather than action itself? I don't think those actions would magically disappear/never happen in the first place, if the perpetrator haven't told about it to anyone. Maybe there's something more to it that I just missed?

Well, turns out confessions/admition of guilt is prioritized more in legal terms, than most evidence they could find. Didn't knew about that

 

[FinePoint]

Well, turns out confessions/admition of guilt is prioritized more in legal terms, than most evidence they could find. Didn't knew about that

Well I don't know about the court of public opinion, but a lot of real courts give some extra leniency if the perpetrator makes it easy for them by admitting guilt. It can also be a sign they're ready to take responsibility and/or be sorry about it rather than deny it.

 

[Homie890]

Why?

Simple:
The Replication Crisis.
Also the fact that, you really can't prove that these field works, after all, everyone lies.
Unlike, say, Cardiology, where one can scan the thorax... Or open it up, Psychology and Psychiatry work with a thing you can't really see.
Second:
It's not really standardized.
Like, say, if someone were to get stabbed in the heart, a cardiologist would easily be able to point out what and where is wrong.
With Psychology, people can lie whether they are fine, or are overexagerating their symptoms.
I rest my case.

 

[Homie890]

Well, I (and presumably Homie) are being over-dramatic here for the sake of the meme, I believe.

Obviously a flawed system can still have use.

You are being overdramatic.
That's my 100% honest stance on these fields.
Utter and complete bogus.

 

[MochOath]

All tiers from 9-C to 4-C should have their name replaced with the tier above them.

I cant count the number of times ive seen a character destroy a building/city block and it being calced to Large Building level/Multi-City Block level

 

[FinePoint]

You are being overdramatic.
That's my 100% honest stance on these fields.
Utter and complete bogus.

You can't rage-bait me, Homie.
I'm invulnerable to all trolling, physical or magical.

 

[Homie890]

You can't rage-bait me, Homie.
I'm invulnerable to all trolling, physical or magical.

Am i ragebaiting you, or are you ragenbaiting me?

 

[Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer]

The only microtransactions I could tolerate, are cosmetic ones, otherwise it's a huge red flag for me

Mood.
Ideally, content should preferably be free, while transparent, constructive/conducive credit and critique is given where it's due.
That being said, humanity runs on money to survive (screwing the world over in the process oof) so we will presumably end up being financially involved when consuming content in many different ways.
As long as it's free or affordable and only needs to be paid for once, I'm good.

Simple:
The Replication Crisis.
Also the fact that, you really can't prove that these field works, after all, everyone lies.
Unlike, say, Cardiology, where one can scan the thorax... Or open it up, Psychology and Psychiatry work with a thing you can't really see.
Second:
It's not really standardized.
Like, say, if someone were to get stabbed in the heart, a cardiologist would easily be able to point out what and where is wrong.
With Psychology, people can lie whether they are fine, or are overexagerating their symptoms.
I rest my case.

You are being overdramatic.
That's my 100% honest stance on these fields.
Utter and complete bogus.

Ironically both hiding and faking conditions are acknowledged as possible physiological and psychological events in of themselves.

Anosognosia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Denial - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hypochondriasis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Malingering - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Factitious disorder imposed on self - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Also ironically your view can sorta constitute this:

Denialism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Also for the record psychologists and psychiatrists also deal with matters regarding the brain in general, which also overlaps at times with matters regarding the rest of the body because issues with other parts of the body can be connected to the brain, or even caused by it.
I'm not joking about the brain causing symptoms:

Somatic symptom disorder - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So you're disproved again.
Also, these:

Psychology - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Psychiatry - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The mention of the replication crisis fails to acknowledge that there is measurable proof and evidence of how the brain works and how it is connected to and how it affects the body.
That's not even going into the fact that we CAN see the brain AND how the brain responds to stimuli.

Neuroimaging - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Unpopular opinion:
Psychology, Psychiatry and the DSM-V are complete bogus we shouldn't take serious.

^This person:
Ignores ICD-11 existing
Ignores that psychiatrists need to go to med school too
Ignores that a lot of people here and in the world are neurodivergent/have physical and mental health conditions

If you're gonna ragebait, you probably shouldn't have done it with a person who has a bachelor's degree in psychology and sociology being in the audience. I'm sorry to say I AM that person. (I'm also sorry to say that I should have probably taken up environmentalism and cosmology instead to better benefit the world and all that exists in it, but at least this knowledge, observably, proved useful.)

That isn't unpopular opinion that's proven - well at least Pyschology, I'm not sure about the other two:

I can't 'prove' it since the reach of the subject here is wider than any scientific experiment can reasonably capture.

I can give you something to think about, though:

We often categorize mental illness based on behaviors, but certain behaviors can be caused by a lot of different things.

In traditional medicine, we can typically find a root cause eventually. Your kidney hurts because there's a nail in it.

But without the technology to fully map the brain, we're missing that. What if, for example, you were born with brain damage that made it very hard for you to socialize, but through great effort you learned how anyway? You definitely have some kind of disorder, but it would never be diagnosed because your behavior doesn't reflect it anymore.

In contrast, even if you stopped feeling pain from the nail in your kidney, a scan would tell us for certain it was still there.

As a whole, a person's behavior and their mind are immensely complicated to a degree we lack the ability to fully comprehend, and to put certain behavioral patterns into certain boxes is only useful for the sake of quickly conveying them to others, but if presented as the 'cause' of symptoms it falls short of ever proving that.

???

Trust me - this is better than it used to be

Well, I guess some knowledge gaps and current limitations are complately valid reasons to completely disregard an entire branch of medicine, even though it isn't that old either

Flashbacks intensify

Agreed

Sorry, peeps, the joke's over now oof.

This is actually based and true, btw.

That meme is funny though.

I disagree with some of the analogies here, but I do agree that Psychology, DSM-V, and Psychiatry have major flaws in them enough to make some practitioners to go against the traditional methods. But that same flaw isn't something traditional medicine is exempt from. Misdiagnosis happens even with medicine's fancy new devices

That's true, but the point is that the general practice for mental illness is different than for other illness.

If you're diagnosed with a physical issue it's valid (in most cases) to say that issue is causing your symptoms.

In contrast, if you're diagnosed with a mental issue it's more valid (in most cases) to say your diagnosis is caused by your symptoms. If that makes sense.

I do know that in traditional medicine there's some diagnoses which do the same thing, like entire types of pain being categorized as unspecified, and these sorts of diagnoses can feel just as unhelpful in that they don't really offer any inherent solution or cause.

These are also true though.

Wondering if wanting atrocity criminals (murderers, ra-ists, torturers, etc of innocent beings) to all be given life imprisonment in solitary confinement instead of being put to death (so that at least there is time to fully confirm innocence or guilt, and if innocent they can be freed, and if guilty then the life imprisonment in solitary confinement can be made into a living hell on earth for them) is an unpopular opinion...

 

[Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer]

Am i ragebaiting you, or are you ragenbaiting me?

I'm just disappointed that you're still trying to actively sabotage your social standing oof.

You can't rage-bait me, Homie.
I'm invulnerable to all trolling, physical or magical.

Now if only we were invulnerable to harm or negative emotions, perceptions, sensations, etc in general...

 

[Giannysmag]

Simple:
The Replication Crisis.
Also the fact that, you really can't prove that these field works, after all, everyone lies.
Unlike, say, Cardiology, where one can scan the thorax... Or open it up, Psychology and Psychiatry work with a thing you can't really see.
Second:
It's not really standardized.
Like, say, if someone were to get stabbed in the heart, a cardiologist would easily be able to point out what and where is wrong.
With Psychology, people can lie whether they are fine, or are overexagerating their symptoms.

These are valid criticisms for sure, but they don't invalidate the entirety of these fields. Is the replication crisis a real issue? yes (and it's not exclusive to just psychology and psychaitry) but it's something experts in this field are actively trying to mitigate and it's not like every single study is unreplicable. Is there lying, misdiagnoses and medical malpractise? Sure and it's not that hard to find either but there's also millions of people across the world (like me) for whom treatments have improved their quality of life or even saved their lives all together

 

[Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer]

I disagree with some of the analogies here, but I do agree that Psychology, DSM-V, and Psychiatry have major flaws in them enough to make some practitioners to go against the traditional methods. But that same flaw isn't something traditional medicine is exempt from. Misdiagnosis happens even with medicine's fancy new devices

Conversely we still need to find out whether alternative, integrated and historical medical stuff work, and if they do, how they work (we could investigate naturally occuring medical remedies/healing substances/stuff that naturally has beneficial properties for health in general)

 

[FinePoint]

Conversely we still need to find out whether alternative, integrated and historical medical stuff work, and if they do, how they work (we could investigate naturally occuring medical remedies/healing substances/stuff that naturally has beneficial properties for health in general)

One of the controversial old/new things being tested with surprising success is psychedelics, especially for things like depression.

 

[MochOath]

this site needs some much more concrete verse equalization rules

idk maybe a way to categorize energy systems or smth

 

[Homie890]

Mood.
Ideally, content should preferably be free, while transparent, constructive/conducive credit and critique is given where it's due.
That being said, humanity runs on money to survive (screwing the world over in the process oof) so we will presumably end up being financially involved when consuming content in many different ways.
As long as it's free or affordable and only needs to be paid for once, I'm good.

Agree.

Ironically both hiding and faking conditions are acknowledged as possible physiological and psychological events in of themselves.

Anosognosia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Denial - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hypochondriasis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Malingering - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Factitious disorder imposed on self - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Also ironically your view can sorta constitute this:

Denialism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Also for the record psychologists and psychiatrists also deal with matters regarding the brain in general, which also overlaps at times with matters regarding the rest of the body because issues with other parts of the body can be connected to the brain, or even caused by it.
I'm not joking about the brain causing symptoms:

Somatic symptom disorder - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So you're disproved again.

1st: Yes! That's the problem with these fields! They can't prove if the person is lying! Unlike Cardiology where it's very easy to see if the person is lying!
2nd: No real reason to ya call me a "Denialist", which is probably just a fancy word for moron, but kay.
3rd: Know who else deals with the brain? Neurologist and Neurosurgeons. And they don't do bullshits like Wertham *******, Sigmund Fraud dumbass and Carl Jung!

The mention of the replication crisis fails to acknowledge that there is measurable proof and evidence of how the brain works and how it is connected to and how it affects the body.
That's not even going into the fact that we CAN see the brain AND how the brain responds to stimuli.

Neuroimaging - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If you're gonna ragebait, you probably shouldn't have done it with a person who has a bachelor's degree in psychology and sociology being in the audience. I'm sorry to say I AM that person. (I'm also sorry to say that I should have probably taken up environmentalism and cosmology instead to better benefit the world and all that exists in it, but at least this knowledge, observably, proved useful.)

1st: How do we know these are actual Neuroimages that psychologists and psychiatrics took of their patient and not ones they made up or took from Neurologist?
2nd: Im not ragebaiting.

Wondering if wanting atrocity criminals (murderers, ra-ists, torturers, etc of innocent beings) to all be given life imprisonment in solitary confinement instead of being put to death (so that at least there is time to fully confirm innocence or guilt, and if innocent they can be freed, and if guilty then the life imprisonment in solitary confinement can be made into a living hell on earth for them) is an unpopular opinion...

Why give them life imprisonment in solitary confinement when we can...
Just drain, purify and send their blood to Blood Banks?

 

[Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer]

Agree.

1: Yes! That's the problem with these fields! They can't prove if the person is lying! Unlike Cardiology where it's very easy to see if the person is lying!
2: No real reason to ya call me a "Denialist", which is probably just a fancy word for moron, but kay.
3 Know who else deals with the brain? Neurologist and Neurosurgeons. And they don't do bullshits like Wertham *******, Sigmund Fraud dumbass and Carl Jung!
4: How do we know these are actual Neuroimages that psychologists and psychiatrics took of their patient and not ones they made up or took from Neurologist?
5: Im not ragebaiting.

Why give them life imprisonment in solitary confinement when we can...
Just drain, purify and send their blood to Blood Banks?

Also, these:

Psychology - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Psychiatry - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The mention of the replication crisis fails to acknowledge that there is measurable proof and evidence of how the brain works and how it is connected to and how it affects the body.
That's not even going into the fact that we CAN see the brain AND how the brain responds to stimuli.

Neuroimaging - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If you're gonna ragebait, you probably shouldn't have done it with a person who has a bachelor's degree in psychology and sociology being in the audience. I'm sorry to say I AM that person. (I'm also sorry to say that I should have probably taken up environmentalism and cosmology instead to better benefit the world and all that exists in it, but at least this knowledge, observably, proved useful.)


Wondering if wanting atrocity criminals (murderers, ra-ists, torturers, etc of innocent beings) to all be given life imprisonment in solitary confinement instead of being put to death (so that at least there is time to fully confirm innocence or guilt, and if innocent they can be freed, and if guilty then the life imprisonment in solitary confinement can be made into a living hell on earth for them) is an unpopular opinion...

Welp, maybe I should copypaste the articles' contents into the forum instead of simply linking, cause I'm not sure if anyone looked through them.

Gonna have to address your points fully, I'm renumbering your points in your post in my reply so it's easier.
1: Yeah OK I can agree they would be hard-pressed to solve the issue of lying, but at least they did take it into account and have registered and recorded patterns of when people have done so.
2: I thought you were denying that psychology and psychiatry were supported and well established by scientific evidence, my bad oof.
3 and 4: You should have looked at the articles, oof.

Psychology - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Psychiatry - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Neuroimaging - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The biological, behavioural, cognitive, social and existential-humanistic schools have roots in and overlap with neuroscience and philosophy.
Psychiatry especially is even more interrelated to neuroscience, neurology, etc.

"Psychology is the scientific study of the mind and behavior. Its subject matter includes the behavior of humans and nonhumans, both conscious and unconscious phenomena, and mental processes such as thoughts, feelings, and motives. Psychology is an academic discipline of broad scope, crossing the boundaries between the natural and social sciences. Biological psychologists seek an understanding of the emergent properties of brains, linking the discipline to neuroscience. As social scientists, psychologists aim to understand the behavior of individuals and groups.
A professional practitioner or researcher involved in the discipline is called a psychologist. Some psychologists can also be classified as behavioral or cognitive scientists. Some psychologists attempt to understand the role of mental functions in individual and social behavior. Others explore the physiological and neurobiological processes that underlie cognitive functions and behaviors."

"Though the medical specialty of psychiatry uses research in the field of neuroscience, psychology, medicine, biology, biochemistry, and pharmacology, it has generally been considered a middle ground between neurology and psychology.
Psychiatrists also differ from psychologists in that they (referring to psychiatrists) are physicians and have postgraduate training called residency (usually four to five years) in psychiatry; the quality and thoroughness of their graduate medical training is identical to that of all other physicians.
Psychiatrists can therefore counsel patients, prescribe medication, order laboratory tests, order neuroimaging, and conduct physical examinations. As well, some psychiatrists are trained in interventional psychiatry and can deliver interventional treatments such as electroconvulsive therapy, transcranial magnetic stimulation, vagus nerve stimulation and ketamine."

"Neuroimaging is highly multidisciplinary involving neuroscience, computer science, psychology and statistics, and is not a medical specialty."

(Wikipedia uses American English oof, I prefer British English since it's technically the original English and is often closer to the root languages from which it derives from, and I prefer metric over imperial cause metric is more precise (due to scientific bases) and less prone to error (heck, even with firearms the metric milliradian is more accurate than the imperial minute and second of arc) so welp... that said, I hate British politics and American politics particularly due to immoral, amoral and unethical colonial acts both in the past and present but we probably best not go there.)

So far, you criticised the psychoanalytic school of psychology through Wertham, Freud and Jung, but neglected and dismissed the other schools of psychology and failed to acknowledge other EXTREMELY important psychologists from other schools who contributed heavily to the understanding of psychology and the mind and brain as a whole in development and function (Pavlov, Skinner, Chomsky, Piaget, Bandura, etc)
(That being said, while their contributions were beneficial, I will agree that the means a few of them, as well as others, used to obtain such results have bordered on being, and at times were explicitly immoral, amoral, and unethical.)
If you wanted to find other aspects of psychology (or medicine in general) to criticise, I can actually help you there.

Milgram experiment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Stanford prison experiment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hofling hospital experiment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Third Wave (experiment) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Jane Elliott - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

John Money - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Unethical human experimentation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In vivo - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Medical torture - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Pharmacological torture - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Political abuse of psychiatry - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

5: OK, but your post also implied/insinuated that practically everyone who has ever gone to seek mental health aid is also similarly foolish/stupid (which of course we aren't) for trying to seek help from the very same professionals in the very same fields that you discredited with overly generalised sweeping statements which only were truthful/applicable to a smaller portion of said fields rather than the fields as a whole.
You see now how insulting, invalidating, inconsiderate, ignorant, etc your argument sounds?

 

[Ebihara]

Please lets not get back into the habit of just linking walls of wiki links.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Gacha is just legitimized gambling, but with zero return except for 2D anime girls.
Lootboxes and gacha are cancer on gaming; bring back effort-based rewards.

 

[Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer]

Please lets not get back into the habit of just linking walls of wiki links.

Sorry, had to make a point welp.

Unpopular opinion:
Psychology, Psychiatry and the DSM-V are complete bogus we shouldn't take serious.

Ebihara, read ^.

Some real world animals need CRT's (chimpanzees, orangutans, secretary birds, boars, cassowaries and etc)

By the way I already called out on this in the real world discussion thread.

The Real World Discussion Thread

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhuchengtyrannus How did they find one of these things that's potentially larger than all but one Tyrannosaurus Rex specimen?

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The Real World Discussion Thread

I figured people already knew about this tbh since like obvious the real world ain't that simple so uh, what's the general consensus on my gpe calcs (I fixed them fr this time) I honestly feel like we should raise Wall level since no human has even punched through a wall before

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The Real World Discussion Thread

I figured people already knew about this tbh since like obvious the real world ain't that simple so uh, what's the general consensus on my gpe calcs (I fixed them fr this time) I honestly feel like we should raise Wall level since no human has even punched through a wall before

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[Arceus0x]

I genuienly don't understand how you can read visual novel games and fully enjoy them. Especially I don't understand if its an ecchi/straight up H one and there's like, at most probably 10 minutes of the content with the rest being a mid choice based game. Haven't played the ones I am talking about but I did talk to many who did.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I genuienly don't understand how you can read visual novel games and fully enjoy them.

Do you enjoy reading books? Would you wish books had alternative content? Would you wish to attempt to decipher these various alternative contents, regardless of the way? Do you derive enjoyment from any of the above?

That's basically the appeal. Also hi, you're back!

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Gacha is just legitimized gambling, but with zero return except for 2D anime girls.
Lootboxes and gacha are cancer on gaming; bring back effort-based rewards.

It has always been like this
even in the Age of MMORPG, which is about efforts and daily grinding
being subverted by the fact that they dangle a carrot of chance-based items.

and new MMO that are purely effort cannot survive anymore except for a few classics

Gacha is just the same repackaged MMORPG loot system and p2w system

 

[Deceived3596]

I dislike the things that I dislike.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Do you enjoy reading books? Would you wish books had alternative content? Would you wish to attempt to decipher these various alternative contents, regardless of the way? Do you derive enjoyment from any of the above?

That's basically the appeal. Also hi, you're back!

I don't even like reading books, but you'll catch me spending hours reading Granblue smh

 

[StarShooter80]

I dislike the things that I dislike.

Ngl I disagree with that

 

[VladimirMakarov317]

Love Fruit Island is a peak show and overhated ngl

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I don't even like reading books, but you'll catch me spending hours reading Granblue smh

Always just do you, champ

 

[Arceus0x]

Do you enjoy reading books? Would you wish books had alternative content? Would you wish to attempt to decipher these various alternative contents, regardless of the way? Do you derive enjoyment from any of the above?

That's basically the appeal.

I just find it to be a bit more tedious and books offer more description. From what I know, visual novels aren't particularly known for their amazing art.

Also hi, you're back!

Decided that I am bored and that I ought to keep a closer eye on some things.

 

[IDK3465]

Love Fruit Island is a peak show and overhated ngl

It’s AI generated slop, that inherently means it’s not going to hold any artistic value to people and is ultimately just the result of an algorithm pretending to be creative and human while fundamentally misunderstanding what art even is and why it’s important to people

 

[StarShooter80]

Love Fruit Island is a peak show and overhated ngl

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Love Fruit Island is a peak show and overhated ngl

I have no idea what that even is

 

[VladimirMakarov317]

I have no idea what that even is

Can Love Fruit Island be made as a profile for the wiki?

Basically this show that has like tens of millions people watched in every short in tiktok

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[Kurokitomo]

Love Fruit Island is a peak show and overhated ngl

Companion

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Can Love Fruit Island be made as a profile for the wiki?

Basically this show that has like tens of millions people watched in every short in tiktok

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...Son

 

[DivineAura44]

Clear ragebait, me personally, I'd never be silly enough to engage with it.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Unpopular Opinions and (Friendly) Rant thread

what about half-bald people? Like, if your dad was bald. I don't even talk to my dad anyway And I'd still shun him if he was half-bald

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dis u?

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

League players should either be put in jails or asylums.