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Call of Duty: Raul Menendez rework

The feats given on Menendez' page are tentatively genius, I think he'd be on the lower-end of that scale.

There are some grammatical issues. "...to the point that nobody believes the America is framed...", "Stated that Raul has people working in the CIA for him" (who stated that? It is unclear from this phrasing), "...despite Mason considered...", etc. I'd pass the whole thing through a grammar checker.

What he has is not Analytical Prediction, also. He knows things, and works them out over time from base heuristics and principles. He's not precognitive or even close to it. Any feat of his that has to do with prediction is done over years. Disagree.

Adaptation just seems to misunderstand the purpose of our Adaptation page. Disagree.

Mason not noticing a grenade is not really the same as Sleight of Hand. The situation was already a distraction, it doesn't denote any special skill of Menendez' to perform the feat. Disagree. This may be better interpreted as Stealth Mastery.

Some feats are misplaced. Pretending to be dead isn't really Stealth Mastery.

His Resistance to Tech Manip is strictly Hacking, not broad Tech Manip.

He does not have Enhanced Senses negation. This is still just hacking. He's negating the core mechanic, not the ability itself.

I know this bit is already on the profile but his "Weakness" section should just say "None notable", what comes after doesn't have anything to do with his weaknesses.

His stamina section is wrong, at least in terms of what we actually see. In the mission, he kills about 70-75 dudes (I counted). Could probably do more, maybe up to 100, depending on player action, the player ignored a few and seemed to not be focusing. Still, it isn't "hundreds". I'm also not sure about Peak Human. Basically all of the kills are with a shotgun over a brief few minute period. It's not the same stamina requirement as melee. He was also in his little berserk mode there, so might be more like a "higher when enraged" or something, with his default stamina being lower. Not sure how we'd go about that.

His speed section has no justification. Why is that? I can see that Mason is Peak Human as well, but has no calc besides moving unspecified amounts in unspecified timeframes.

With no explicit changes listed in the OP (SINNER, RULE VIOLATOR), this is all I noticed as problematic.
 
Mr. Bambu said:
The feats given on Menendez' page are tentatively genius, I think he'd be on the lower-end of that scale.

There are some grammatical issues. "...to the point that nobody believes the America is framed...", "Stated that Raul has people working in the CIA for him" (who stated that? It is unclear from this phrasing), "...despite Mason considered...", etc. I'd pass the whole thing through a grammar checker.

What he has is not Analytical Prediction, also. He knows things, and works them out over time from base heuristics and principles. He's not precognitive or even close to it. Any feat of his that has to do with prediction is done over years. Disagree.

Adaptation just seems to misunderstand the purpose of our Adaptation page. Disagree.

Mason not noticing a grenade is not really the same as Sleight of Hand. The situation was already a distraction, it doesn't denote any special skill of Menendez' to perform the feat. Disagree. This may be better interpreted as Stealth Mastery.

Some feats are misplaced. Pretending to be dead isn't really Stealth Mastery.

His Resistance to Tech Manip is strictly Hacking, not broad Tech Manip.

He does not have Enhanced Senses negation. This is still just hacking. He's negating the core mechanic, not the ability itself.

I know this bit is already on the profile but his "Weakness" section should just say "None notable", what comes after doesn't have anything to do with his weaknesses.

His stamina section is wrong, at least in terms of what we actually see. In the mission, he kills about 70-75 dudes (I counted). Could probably do more, maybe up to 100, depending on player action, the player ignored a few and seemed to not be focusing. Still, it isn't "hundreds". I'm also not sure about Peak Human. Basically all of the kills are with a shotgun over a brief few minute period. It's not the same stamina requirement as melee. He was also in his little berserk mode there, so might be more like a "higher when enraged" or something, with his default stamina being lower. Not sure how we'd go about that.

His speed section has no justification. Why is that? I can see that Mason is Peak Human as well, but has no calc besides moving unspecified amounts in unspecified timeframes.

With no explicit changes listed in the OP (SINNER, RULE VIOLATOR), this is all I noticed as problematic.
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As for Analytical Prediction, Wood's statement that Raul knows every moves David gonna make qualifies I think

The adaptation is a sub ability of his prep time, as I list it under it. But I wont mind merging the feat to just prep

Ok I'll merge the hand feat to stealth mastery

So I change that to SI?

I'm not sure if deleting/removing a virus from your device counts as hacking. Or I could change it to data manip resistance?

That's why I listed the enhanced senses negation under hacking as it's a sub ability

Alright

So what should be his stamina rating

Not sure what to do about speed
 
As for Analytical Prediction, Wood's statement that Raul knows every moves David gonna make qualifies I think
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Both know ideal military strategy and Menendez has had 30 years to prepare-- this latter fact is also something Woods points out. It's a preparation feat, not analytical prediction.

The adaptation is a sub ability of his prep time, as I list it under it. But I wont mind merging the feat to just prep
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You should look at the adaptation page on the wiki, it's for like... changing your biology to survive a colder climate.

So I change that to SI?
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It's not really anything. We don't have much of an ability page for pretending to be dead. No "acting" ability just yet. It's close to SI but doesn't really fit into any element of that.

I'm not sure if deleting/removing a virus from your device counts as hacking. Or I could change it to data manip resistance?
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It is functionally the same thing as hacking. Gaining access to restricted software to, in this case, disable it. Data manip is better but I'd still just call it hacking.

That's why I listed the enhanced senses negation under hacking as it's a sub ability
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It isn't a sub-ability, it is just hacking still.

So what should be his stamina rating
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I'd go "At least Athletic, likely Peak Human, higher when enraged".

Not sure what to do about speed
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Do they have any feats you could link to? I'm sure we could determine the sprinting speed in Call of Duty Black Ops 2, but there might be something from a cutscene or whatever that would yield something higher.
 
Mr. Bambu said:
Both know ideal military strategy and Menendez has had 30 years to prepare-- this latter fact is also something Woods points out. It's a preparation feat, not analytical prediction.


You should look at the adaptation page on the wiki, it's for like... changing your biology to survive a colder climate.


It's not really anything. We don't have much of an ability page for pretending to be dead. No "acting" ability just yet. It's close to SI but doesn't really fit into any element of that.


It is functionally the same thing as hacking. Gaining access to restricted software to, in this case, disable it. Data manip is better but I'd still just call it hacking.


It isn't a sub-ability, it is just hacking still.


I'd go "At least Athletic, likely Peak Human, higher when enraged".


Do they have any feats you could link to? I'm sure we could determine the sprinting speed in Call of Duty Black Ops 2, but there might be something from a cutscene or whatever that would yield something higher.
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Hm k

Well I saw other profiles listed adaptation as purely an intel feat but I wont mind merging

I still think it's like stealth mastery or SI (deception) but if you say it would be a feat for a nonexistent ability, I think Acting ability can be proposed to be made

Aight

Ok

Sure

What about the part Raul dodged Alex's shot here? Or maybe David dodging bullets here?
 
Adaptation is the ability to survive and adapt to different situations and natural environments.

This can include developing abilities to breathe underwater or in air with variable compositions, withstand different atmospheric pressures, live in much colder or hotter climates, see in greater darkness, develop camouflage colouring to hide from threats, etcetera.

As opposed to Reactive Evolution, Adaptation only gives a character the ability to balance the resources of its current body, not to, for example, grow more durable or powerful.
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This is the definition of Adaptation, I'd say that other profile ****** up, too. It's an easy mistake to make, I think.

What about the part Raul dodged Alex's shot here? Or maybe David dodging bullets here?
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First one he slapped the gun away, causing it to miss. Second one, POV doesn't even move really, he just misses.
 
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Again, like. They're just missing. They are firing in his direction, but he's not actually moving faster than a normal run there. The second one is much the same, we even see him get hit. The last one does have him say "avoid the missiles" but no missile ever got especially close to him. I think it is a better feat, but uncalcable since it never actually happens on-screen, and unscaleable to him, given his speed there is that of the jetpack, not himself.

At the very least we can extend "At least Athletic Human" just by right of being trained military soldiers, which does not require a calc or anything. Was sort of hoping for an outright movement speed feat, but we can manage without one.
 
Mr. Bambu said:
Again, like. They're just missing. They are firing in his direction, but he's not actually moving faster than a normal run there. The second one is much the same, we even see him get hit. The last one does have him say "avoid the missiles" but no missile ever got especially close to him. I think it is a better feat, but uncalcable since it never actually happens on-screen, and unscaleable to him, given his speed there is that of the jetpack, not himself.

At the very least we can extend "At least Athletic Human" just by right of being trained military soldiers, which does not require a calc or anything. Was sort of hoping for an outright movement speed feat, but we can manage without one.
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I changed the speed alright. I think we have clear everything up, this blog safe to apply now?
 
Mr. Bambu said:
Again, like. They're just missing. They are firing in his direction, but he's not actually moving faster than a normal run there. The second one is much the same, we even see him get hit. The last one does have him say "avoid the missiles" but no missile ever got especially close to him. I think it is a better feat, but uncalcable since it never actually happens on-screen, and unscaleable to him, given his speed there is that of the jetpack, not himself.

At the very least we can extend "At least Athletic Human" just by right of being trained military soldiers, which does not require a calc or anything. Was sort of hoping for an outright movement speed feat, but we can manage without one.
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VladimirMakarov317 said:
Wait, I think Raul should have his LS upgraded to Class 1 since he can snap people's neck
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What's your thoughts on this?
 
Mr. Bambu said:
Some feats are misplaced. Pretending to be dead isn't really Stealth Mastery.
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Haven't played COD in ages but can I get an explanation as to why? I feel like pretending to be dead in a body bag surrounded by expert military guys would fall under adapting to surrounding areas + concealing one's presence, especially when you consider how you need to eventually breathe
 
Haven't played COD in ages but can I get an explanation as to why? I feel like pretending to be dead in a body bag surrounded by expert military guys would fall under adapting to surrounding areas, especially when you consider how you need to eventually breathe
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Holding your breath isn't stealth mastery, either. He's just sitting there.
 
Mr. Bambu said:
Holding your breath isn't stealth mastery, either. He's just sitting there.
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He's laying down trying to escape a hostile area by blending in with the surroundings and didn't get caught (or it wouldn't be listed). I don't think anyone can do that really especially with the factors I mentioned. Holding one's breath alone isn't SM of course, but with the context provided, it's a supporting factor at least
 
Hi. Reaper here, called here to be a second staff vote, but I cannot be that.

So instead, I'm going to ask are there no better shots of this man? Like, waist up is the minimum, full body is preferred, and shoulders up is genuinely irritating to me lmfao

And hey if you want a render I am your guy dammit!
 
DaReaperMan said:
Hi. Reaper here, called here to be a second staff vote, but I cannot be that.

So instead, I'm going to ask are there no better shots of this man? Like, waist up is the minimum, full body is preferred, and shoulders up is genuinely irritating to me lmfao

And hey if you want a render I am your guy dammit!
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Wait you cant vote?

Uh not sure atm
 
I didn't comment earlier since I'm busy af this week.
But yeah, I think that Bambu covered everything that should be fixed.

On things which could be possibly be better, it would be reference missions for each feat, and also adding a Padding since P&A clogs the whole page.
There are ofc a few things you can do with calcs such as drones or separate the justifications with a Feats tabber below, but it is fine for what it is. I wouldn't touch campaign that much as I said in the General Discussion until Zombies is done, but I think I will give my approval as a Supporter.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Hi. Reaper here, called here to be a second staff vote, but I cannot be that.

So instead, I'm going to ask are there no better shots of this man? Like, waist up is the minimum, full body is preferred, and shoulders up is genuinely irritating to me lmfao

And hey if you want a render I am your guy dammit!
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For the images would this shot work? And this one for his young self
 
Aside from what Bambu already recommended, I would say it is a good idea to also remove the periods at the end of stats to be more consistent (for example, his Weakness stat compared to his Speed)
 
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