Yoruchi was considered both Isshin's and Kisuke's peers, she performed equally with them against Aizen. She even outperformed Ichigo against Askin, what more feats do you need? Hitting an Arrancar with an armor that is specifically designed against their Hierro is like an ordinary human stabbing Superman with a magic sword because Superman lacks natural defense against magic. Same thing lol!
CFYOW at this point should be retconned or rewrote out of existence, I am not going to lie.
CFYOW has base Kenpachi scaling to true Bankai Ichigo lmao. Of course it should be retconned. Especially since it contradicts Mayuri capturing the Bambi’s with the new info of Giselle having them
Not how that works at all but sure buddy
Yet it worked on Aizen because he is an Arrancar now?Not how that works at all but sure buddy
The girl never hit an arrancar with that armor
Why even bother call it anti-hierro armor then? Crazy logic.
Okay, i need to check something with you : Do you believe that an anti-tank mine only work on tanks ? That if a regular soldier trigger it, it won't kill him if it explode on him because it's the wrong "unit type" ? Your awnser will decide if i entertain you further or not.Yet it worked on Aizen because he is an Arrancar now?
This didn’t happen in the manga lol it happened in the anime
My argument is more or less about the possibility of uryu doing more against Yhwach than about ichigo.
If ichigo struggles to overwhelm uryu shown consistently btw and they clash multiple times EVENLY. Then uryu could be relative to ichigo in that category. There is no single instance in the anime where ichigo physically overpowered uryu that didn't require sneak attacks or off guard attacks and the funny thing is ichigo did this in both fights mind you. Now I am not saying this alone would justify it, so that's why I am waiting for cour 4 to see his fight against jugram who seems to be weilding a similar dark reaistu of sk yhwach and whether he does more against Yhwach himself seeing as he has a personal vendetta against yhwach in fact more than any person in that arc. So yeah I want to wait obviously.
We don't even know the full context behind the izurasando, something that will be explained in Cour 4. So yeah waiting for cour 4 is the best approach and if Cour 4 shows otherwise then that will be the end of it. You think I don't have an argument, that is true but that applies to you too. Cour 4 will explain a lot of things you are arguing with me for now.
He contained the explosion from wonderweise with his physicals, his tensile strength would scale to the force of the explosion. Though I am still checking it out.
You don't fully understand how LS works and that's okay. Anything that is achieved with tensile strength is an LS feat. Yama dampened the force of the explosion with his body at the epicenter.... if he was far from the epicenter then yes, it wouldn't count but fortunately he was. Lifting weights isn't the only LS metric. Also what "nuked" him was the heat of the blast not the force of the explosion, if it was the force he wouldn't remain in the epicenter or even have a body to begin with.
I just saw tha poll and voted for Barragan lol. Ig the „Ulquiorra is the strongest Espada“ idea is still a thing. I even saw someone say that Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra beats True Shikai Ichigo…..
Why are so many people voting for Ulquiorra here?
Ulquiorra is already more powerful. Manga, Nestle to Night, and SAFWY prove it.
Many people don't know about SE Ulquiorra's scaling. If those who say they'll take True Shikai are taking Dangai=>Vasto Lord=>Ulquiorra, then yes, according to this scaling, he's stronger than True Shikai. Of course, if you ask me to show you the CRT of this, it would be very difficult to convince people, so I would either not do it or postpone it until summer. People have a lot of prejudices, and I would need to write a long article addressing numerous counter-arguments.
What am i even reading
saying that Vasto Lorde ichigo is somehow comparable to Dangai Ichigo is genuinely crazy.
It's directly stated in the episodes where he obtains the Dangai form.
His survival from exposure to Cero
Proof of this?
Wouldn't that mean Segunda makes Ulquiorra unholy amounts of times stronger than his Resurrection form? Going from weaker than Starrk to no diffing fourth fusion Aizen lol. Same for Ichigo. It's just crazy
I always thoughts the Kenpachi scaling from CFYOW is bs. 0 explanations about his leap in power, yet his supposed power up is MUCH bigger than the amp he got from Unohana's fight, dying dozens of times to regain his old power. No way there wouldn't be an explanation if there was a legit crazy power up.
CFYOW is borderline fanfic, we all know that
The proof is here. The first is the interview about the film, the second is the conversation in the Q&A you asked about. When Kubo was asked about his favorite Bleach film, instead of saying the 4th film/Hell-Verse, he specifically said Ulquiorra vs. Vasto Lord. We know he didn't like the rest of the film. In the first scan, he says "Omission to the main story." That's why I argue that this is the original Ulquiorra vs. Vasto Lord he had in mind. For example, when TYBW was writing the manga for the Arc, he edited parts in the TYBW Anime version to finish the part he couldn't write as he wanted, and we on this wiki consider the edited Anime version more canon than the manga version, it's the same logic.
Exactly lol
There's nothing to prove that Base Aizen is stronger than Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra. We know Aizen doesn't know Segunda Etapa.
That's only by Ulquiorra's words and I would really really doubt them, considering how op Aizen's Info Analysis is and how the feats match the statement + the fact segunda etapa is on this page
I've encountered people using this scan as an argument before, and it's very easy to answer. The fact that SE Ulquiorra's image is in the background while Aizen is speaking doesn't mean he saw him. In Bleach, showing another character on screen while a character is speaking is never used to mean he saw them. For example, in the panel where Ichigo is thinking about the events of his fight with Ulquiorra, a flashback of the Vasto Lord is shown. But we know that Ichigo learned about the Vasto Lord's form in the episodes where he's practicing jinzen in Dangai.
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Not saying he did it then? Ulquiorra was around him for some months. Long enough for aizen to easily figure he achieved a second ressurecion, especially given his op info analysis.
I added the link later.
However, there's no proof that Aizen knew SE. Similarly, we don't know when Ulquiorra obtained this form.
This view is also an omission to the main story.''
It is stated here.
There is evidence. A nice piece of evidence is that Aizen himself indicates the Espada follow him, not because of his charisma or intelligence; I would agree both are contributing factors but aren't significant ones. It is because of his superior strength. That is confirmed and then furthered by Gin, in his inner monologue, talking with nobody else except himself--so there is no reason to believe he is trying to convince anyone with his statement--that Aizen is without parallels, and his strength is the main contributing reason to why the Espada follow him.
No need to do D.A. either.
