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What tf is this shit.. It's literally the same as the Haki layers bullshit that is going on right now..
He can do this in base.won't change much ngl, luffy is a sitting duck without G5
That's my point the stats gap is there without G5.He can do this in base.
Again, he can hurt him outside of Gear 5 with dura neg, so this, again, does not matterthat's my point the stats gap is there without G5.
Luffy only starts to measure up with G5, which he can be worn out eventually due to the way Naruto fights.
You get a layer… you get a layer… are you top tier? yes? okay you get one too”What tf is this shit.. It's literally the same as the Haki layers bullshit that is going on right now..
dude said it once and nobody laughed so he deleted his message and said it againYou get a layer… you get a layer… are you top tier? yes? okay you get one too”
Naruto can resist attacks way stronger than that like gentle fist and his own rasenshuriken which are greater forms of Dura-neg as well.Again, he can hurt him outside of Gear 5 with dura neg, so this, again, does not matter
Voting Naruto for Net’s reasoning![]()
Gentle fist is not better dura neg by any means, the entire point of gentle fist is that the force of the attack doesn't do much but it signals a chain reaction through hitting a pathway system chained to your organs that effectively chokes your organsNaruto can resist attacks way stronger than that like gentle fist and his own rasenshuriken which are greater forms of Dura-neg as well.
Gang the gentle fist and Rasenshuriken are good for chakra usersNaruto can resist attacks way stronger than that like gentle fist and his own rasenshuriken which are greater forms of Dura-neg as well.
Beyond Advanced Stage
- Durability Negation and Explosion Manipulation (Can force energy inside of opponents and objects, which produces explosions inside of their
Ahh yes, an explosion spawning in one’s inside is worse than small needles and pressure pointsNaruto can resist attacks way stronger than that like gentle fist and his own rasenshuriken which are greater forms of Dura-neg as well.
There was a literal conversation about how tso can't affect Haki and Luffy should be able to interact with it via Armament Haki Emission.fr
bro has no counter to tso
They don't read the thread they just spawn in with pre-decided pointsThere was a literal conversation about how tso can't affect Haki and Luffy should be able to interact with it via Armament Haki Emission.
Are we forgetting things already? Has this thread gone for too long?
27-26 votes and 12 pages in a day wtf happenedIt should be 27-26 rn, still in favour of Luffy
gentle fist is literally better, it can target minute points deep in your cellular networks and mastered usage of it can also infuse greater force which extends beyond inside the body alone to outside it like Momoshiki showed.Gentle fist is not better dura neg by any means, the entire point of gentle fist is that the force of the attack doesn't do much but it signals a chain reaction through hitting a pathway system chained to your organs that effectively chokes your organs
Luffy blows your organs up.
Naruto is not withstanding a Rasenshuriken he is capable of throwing it which stops it from hurting himself and he can tether it further away from himself with his chakra, if he got hit by a rasenshuriken he is cooked.
Why are we acting like Naruto can facetank a rasenshuriken, a technique that passes through you through cutting, just to say he can withstand internal buso, which spawns inside you and blows you up
You can't be serious right now. Naruto does not have 5-B internal organs. He is a 5'5 twink. Luffy's dura neg will literally cause explosions half the size of his body in the inside. How is that at all weaker than gentle fist. You goons really say anythinggentle fist is literally better, it can target minute points deep in your cellular networks and mastered usage of it can also infuse greater force which extends beyond inside the body alone to outside it like Momoshiki showed.
iirc there is a databook that says naruto can effortlessly use Rasenshuriken now even when he isn't throwing it, due to sage mode and his other forms that enhance his defence to a point its neglible.
that is beyond advanced, it's not like luffy has that so don't know why you brought that up.Gang the gentle fist and Rasenshuriken are good for chakra users
This shit blows up your organs
He literally does. What on earth are you talking aboutthat is beyond advanced, it's not like luffy has that so don't know why you brought that up.
and you are overselling that a little too much ngl.
that is beyond advanced, it's not like luffy has that so don't know why you brought that up.
Beyond Advanced Stage: Haki users at this stage are capable of using Busoshoku Haki beyond the level of advanced users. They can inject Haki into a person or object, leading to said person or object's destruction from the inside,[46] which can be done by touching,[1] grabbing,[51] or even emitting Haki toward the object.[46] It wrecks tremendous amounts of internal damage to the victim. Things that the user usually cannot destroy can be harmed from the inside, and in three separate instances, Rayleigh and Luffy were shown using this to rip off exploding collars and cuffs fast enough to throw them aside before they detonated.[52][8][53][51]
Examples include Monkey D. Luffy as of Onigashima Raid and Silvers Rayleigh
Reread my post on how luffy can out last nardo and match him later with.Evet
Naruto can wistand g4 luffy and he can wistand g5 luffy to
İt already debated so times in this thread
The thing is luffy cant get rid of clones and strong attack barrages
Atleast i think its the case
You serious right now?all this is irrelevant ngl, luffy is basically nothing really special outside G5 against six paths Naruto.
Sharingan is equal to the base obssrvation. Observation haki has many more applications and proven to be much better. 1 of the better applications is, you dont need to keep your eyes on your target, as long as they are within your range you can predict them. Another one is you can dodge attacks on instincts alone. Even if you are fast asleep you can fight in your sleep. Sharingan is not competing. And it cant see into the future or have future conversations with another person with the same abilities. Observation far outclasses and is superior. Adding on luffy's unpredictability in g5 making matters worse.The Sharingan lets you do this too btw, Naruto has never had an issue fighting it.
Nice joke. I vote nardo for this reason alone. (Jk)Clones, substitution, transforming, turning a TSO into food and watching Luffy get erased (kidding)
Talking about luffy vs katakuri here. It was stated to be 13hrs.There’s like no proof Luffy vs Kaido was that long meanwhile Naruto fought Sasuke from morning till dusk after using pm all his chakra in a blast of energy. And spent most of the war spamming chakra to thousands of other people to keep them alive.
By attacks that naturally isnt a harm to him.G5 Luffy lets himself get hit all the time.
He’s not even twice as fast as Naruto’s reactions so I doubt it.
Hes above them. Just that none of his fights lasted as long.Luffy is not above them in stamina let’s be frr
G5 cannot last 10days. But if the fight were to draw out for an hour or couple hrs luffy would probably be as strong as or stronger, with his reactive power lvl and haki blooming coming into play.Being stronger than them (which is arguable) doesn’t not mean G5 can last 10 days when we have seen him fight several times in that mode and know that’s not true.
if he does then sorry, it won't matter like i said Naruto can resist an attack that literally damages you on a cellular level.He literally does. What on earth are you talking about
that is beyond advanced, it's not like luffy has that so don't know why you brought that up.
and you are overselling that a little too much ngl.
Did you read the profiles? or what.
- Haki (Advanced Conqueror's Haki, Beyond Advanced Armament Haki & Advanced Observation Haki)
yea sorry about that mixed it up with beyond observation![]()
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we really sayin tso cant affect haki nowThere was a literal conversation about how tso can't affect Haki and Luffy should be able to interact with it via Armament Haki Emission.
Are we forgetting things already? Has this thread gone for too long?
lmao they just be saying anything atpwe really sayin tso cant affect haki now![]()
He doesn't resist it. That's the thing.if he does then sorry, it won't matter like i said Naruto can resist an attack that literally damages you on a cellular level.
Read the thread. There are 12 pages worth of discussion that you clearly have not seen. Why should anybody take your opinion on the matter seriously when you're going over things talked about more than 10 pages agowe really sayin tso cant affect haki now![]()
onblmao they just be saying anything atp
Luffy vs Naruto is a highly debated topic that even after 20 years is still as hot as Akainu's magma27-26 votes and 12 pages in a day wtf happened
Wait a minute is that ArccccccVoting Naruto for Net’s reasoning![]()
i just said there is a databook that literally says that, godernet even said he got the thread accepted it just hasn't been implemented in the profiles(reading through this thread).He doesn't resist it. That's the thing.
At this rate yall will surpass the vote count of Gojo Vs MakimaLuffy vs Naruto is a highly debated topic that even after 20 years is still as hot as Akainu's magma
At the beginning, clearly Naruto was stomping Luffy, but then Luffy decided to Laugh
And now the debate is equal
yea sorry about that mixed it up with beyond observation
beyond observationyea sorry about that mixed it up with beyond observation
?beyond observation![]()