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Honkai: Star Rail Discussion Thread

PedjaTarzan said:
So when u wanna calculate how much years it took for zephyro to slime out tia nua galaxy, u either go with 76 or 240 years, or the middle ground, or just dont because its on you to prove it took him that much specific year the ONLY thing we know is that it happened between 1 amber era, and that can even be 1 year between 1 AE to 2 AE doesnt matter rly
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Thats fair to say though yeah. Feats so vague it could’ve been 1 second and it’s 3-C or 240 years and it’s scraping for 4-B
 
PlungingThroughTime said:
Yeah that's why I also said we don't. Unless some data book marks out when Qlipoth has swung THEIR hammer but I also doubt Zephyro's feat lists a specific Amber Era to cross reference.
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he could even do it instantly, i think i saw somewhere that IPC or mourning actors have spotted zephyro flying across space towards that galaxy, the moment they came there the galaxy was gone. and this is IPC which can travel across cosmos ever so easily. on top of that if zephyro has the feat of rupturing cosmos theres nothing that makes zephyro just not 3-C, i mean take a look at this. his WHITE HOLE is supposedly bigger than several stars around it. are we really gonna nitpick every single thing just to downgrade or what? this aint even about accuracy this is just about how much downgrades do u wanna make just to feel good.
Not to mention that he has casual feats of ramming planets, drilling core of the planets, wiping out surface of planets with storm, creating SS sized white hole, no diffing someone with power to destroy planets, LITERALLY aura farming a supernova blast and dipping in second. this guy just cannot be below tier 3 and im gonna die on that hill
 
PedjaTarzan said:
So when u wanna calculate how much years it took for zephyro to slime out tia nua galaxy, u either go with 76 or 240 years, or the middle ground, or just dont because its on you to prove it took him that much specific year the ONLY thing we know is that it happened between 1 amber era, and that can even be 1 year between 1 AE to 2 AE doesnt matter rly
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Anyway doesn't this make the Lord Ravager chain-scale to FireNon even crazier? The most glazed Lord Ravagers destroyed a galaxy in 76 years, we see FireNon wipe out 3 (IIRC) by running past them.

Seems like there's genuinely no argument for Lord Ravager = FireNon.

Kevin (expy) wins again.

But on the above (didn't see it) - I mean that's fair enough. The clash with Welt did destroy whatever it destroyed (I forgot but I know it was powerful LMAO) - Lord Ravagers have numerous galaxy level statements so it's pretty plausible and not even a highball.
 
PlungingThroughTime said:
Anyway doesn't this make the Lord Ravager chain-scale to FireNon even crazier? The most glazed Lord Ravagers destroyed a galaxy in 76 years, we see FireNon wipe out 3 (IIRC) by running past them.

Seems like there's genuinely no argument for Lord Ravager = FireNon.
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I dont even think its possible to scale firenon to any emanator that isnt complete irontomb, he wasnt only wiping out rando galaxies but he was striking NANOOK.
 
PedjaTarzan said:
we really gonna nitpick every single thing just to downgrade or what? this aint even about accuracy this is just about how much downgrades do u wanna make just to feel good.
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You right, the real villain of this story is 5-B doomsday beast which we can make High 6-A via nitpicking and agenda. Just claim its planet destroying is just life wiping just to squeeze it below the 800 (not low 1-C) Petatons
 
SuperNova55555 said:
It just means the statement is inaccurate, or merely not meant to be understood in a way that is directly proportionate to powerlevel.

The scans explicitly say that:
1) The Giant Sting is at the bottom of the ladder entirely
2) That it is explicitly the least powerful.
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I don’t get what the issue is.

What I’m seeing is

Giant sting is bottom of ladder and the least powerful

The stings inside of it are inferior to giant sting

It’s not ranked by sized

Am I missing something
 
PlungingThroughTime said:
I hate when a page's reference is a specific chapter or act of gameplay. Why can't people just post a screenshot or leave a quote or a link and timestamp? It's like people have forgotten basic citing.
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Honestly you’re right cause seeing something like HI3 Chapter 33 or ‘Hero, Shatter That Woeful Effigy’ for HSR is really useless when these chapters / acts are literally hours long
At least HI3 has the mercy of stages for pre chapter 26
HSR timestamps ig are the only way
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
Honestly you’re right cause seeing something like HI3 Chapter 33 or ‘Hero, Shatter That Woeful Effigy’ for HSR is really useless when these chapters / acts are literally hours long
At least HI3 has the mercy of stages for pre chapter 26
HSR timestamps ig are the only way
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You can js open the specific HSR chapter in the fandom wiki and then press CTRL + F to find the exact scene.
 
SuperNova55555 said:
Because the statement explicitly tells you the bigger one is the weakest. This is a superlative
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I think I got their names confused.

Skaracabaz > Gnaw Sting > True Sting > Lesser Sting > Juvenile Sting > Giant Sting
SuperNova55555 said:
I think it’s extremely inconsistent though. The scans imply that the bigger the Sting is, the weaker it is since they explicitly say the big guy is at the bottom, but then we have an immediate anti-feat of of this since AE was getting feat haxxed by the Giant Sting but was completely fine in fighting smaller ones hidden inside the AE.
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Ok so back to this. What’s the issue with this

Trailblazer is capable of defeating Argenti who is capable of fighting the Giant Sting alone

The complications with them escaping the giant sting were just caused by

1. The giant sting’s acid melting the astral express train

2. Doing anything can alert the entire swarm to jump them

3. Express has a chance of over heating and exploding

The issues were just unconventional problems rather than the strength of the bug
 
PedjaTarzan said:
he could even do it instantly, i think i saw somewhere that IPC or mourning actors have spotted zephyro flying across space towards that galaxy, the moment they came there the galaxy was gone. and this is IPC which can travel across cosmos ever so easily. on top of that if zephyro has the feat of rupturing cosmos theres nothing that makes zephyro just not 3-C, i mean take a look at this. his WHITE HOLE is supposedly bigger than several stars around it. are we really gonna nitpick every single thing just to downgrade or what? this aint even about accuracy this is just about how much downgrades do u wanna make just to feel good.
Not to mention that he has casual feats of ramming planets, drilling core of the planets, wiping out surface of planets with storm, creating SS sized white hole, no diffing someone with power to destroy planets, LITERALLY aura farming a supernova blast and dipping in second. this guy just cannot be below tier 3 and im gonna die on that hill
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Yeah calcing Zephyro destroying Tia Nua is pointless since besides us not knowing how the years translates to our years, Zephyro does random destruction side quests that makes no sense (spawns onto a planet just to create weather cyclones to destroy its ecosystem despite another moment instantly erupting a supernova and destroying everything in the next moment)
 
By the way, I’ll probably make an entirely new cosmology page by myself after I finish consuming all of Hi3.

I’m almost completely done with the Anti-Entropy VN and the rest shouldn’t take much longer at the pace I’m going I feel.
 
SuperNova55555 said:
By the way, I’ll probably make an entirely new cosmology page by myself after I finish consuming all of Hi3.

I’m almost completely done with the Anti-Entropy VN and the rest shouldn’t take much longer at the pace I’m going I feel.
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Okay but I still wanna know what the issue with the giant sting is 😭
 
SuperNova55555 said:
Sorry forgot. I’ll js completely re-watch the mission at some point and then relegate a full answer so I don’t work off memory alone
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Yeah I had to rewatch it. For over half the quest they didn’t realize they were inside of a giant sting and the other half they quickly figured out what to do. The only issues they had were the express train being destroyed or alerting the entire swarm inside of the giant sting and jumping them.
 
SuperNova55555 said:
Honestly we don’t talk about Pompom enough lol. They’re pretty much more mysterious than almost all characters in the series, and multiple characters are actively aware of this fact
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Pom pom barely minimum keeps a possibly rating because the several statements of characters like yanqing welt and dan heng glazing bro is unironically consistent with each other.
 
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Ok, so after finally having context on the scene and whatnot, these scan can literally only be referring to SoQ and nothing else lol
 
SuperNova55555 said:
By the way, I’ll probably make an entirely new cosmology page by myself after I finish consuming all of Hi3.

I’m almost completely done with the Anti-Entropy VN and the rest shouldn’t take much longer at the pace I’m going I feel.
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Do you have the tiers in your mind so far?
 
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