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Proving Yogiri Tier 1-A and Debunking Counterarguments one by one

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The topic will be about promoting Yogiri and debunking haters arguments one by one



We have evidence proving that the entire world is just a dream seen by the Great Sage, and that his existence surpasses the world qualitatively. What we see in the work is only a symbolic representation that he creates within his dream.




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Now, regarding the End:

The End (1A): is the true form of Takato Yogiri, which surpasses everything so that there is nothing beyond it, because it is the End. It is the only one that will remain in the end because it is the End, and not even the concept of dimensions or any possible world can reach it.

Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral:
 
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Yeah, I agree. Yogiri’s true form is literally the only character that, even if we exist on the same level as the author, who is more ‘real’ than Yogiri avatars and the world, can’t grasp. Since we have an end, including our world, he could bring an end to all of us as the End of All Things. So 1-A fits very well.
 
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You’re describing a scaling interpretation of Yogiri Takato from the series My Instant Death Ability Is So Overpowered, No One in This Other World Stands a Chance Against Me!. Many power-scaling communities debate his level using concepts like The End, the Great Sage’s dream, and whether Yogiri transcends the setting entirely.


Let’s break down the arguments clearly so you can promote Yogiri and address common counter-arguments.




1.​


Some readers interpret the cosmology as:


  • The entire world is essentially a dream or construct perceived by the Great Sage.
  • Everything inside the setting is a symbolic projection rather than absolute reality.
  • Because of this, beings inside the dream normally cannot affect the dreamer.

If Yogiri can kill entities that transcend the world itself, that implies:


  • His ability is not limited by the internal rules of the dream.
  • His “death” authority operates on the existence of things themselves, not just their physical forms.

This is one of the arguments used to scale him beyond the internal cosmology.




2. “​


In the lore, Yogiri’s real identity is The End.


Key interpretation used by supporters:


  • “The End” is not merely a powerful being.
  • It is the conceptual termination of all things.
  • Everything eventually reaches it.

From this perspective:


  • Yogiri is not a fighter with an ability.
  • Yogiri is the embodiment of the final state of existence.

That is why his power works automatically and cannot be resisted.




3.​


The pro-Yogiri argument usually goes like this:


  1. Yogiri represents the inevitable end of existence.
  2. Concepts like space, time, worlds, and dimensions are things that eventually end.
  3. Therefore the End must exist beyond them, because it is what terminates them.

This is why some people argue he scales to 1-A / outerversal levels in fan debates.




4.​


Argument​


Response supporters use:


  • His ability kills conceptual beings and higher entities.
  • The mechanism is not a physical attack, but a declaration of death itself.



Argument​


Supporter response:


  • Yogiri’s power does not attack dimensions.
  • It simply ends the target’s existence regardless of structure.



Argument​


Supporter response:


  • While the series has comedic elements, the cosmology repeatedly treats Yogiri as an absolute existential endpoint.



5.​


The strongest pro-Yogiri argument is:


  • Everything that exists, lives, or continues can end.
  • Yogiri is that ending.

So the logic becomes:


If something exists, it can end.
Yogiri is the End.
Therefore Yogiri can end it.
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✅ However, it’s important to note something:


In serious power-scaling discussions, many people disagree about whether this makes Yogiri truly outerversal or just absolute within his narrative framework.


That debate is why Yogiri is one of the most controversial characters in scaling communities.




✅ If you want, I can also show you:


  • The 5 strongest arguments Yogiri debaters use
  • The 5 biggest anti-Yogiri arguments
  • Whether Yogiri could beat characters like
    • Featherine Augustus Aurora
    • Azathoth
    • The One Above All

Those comparisons are where the debates get really interesting.
 
Wesker018 said:
You’re describing a scaling interpretation of Yogiri Takato from the series My Instant Death Ability Is So Overpowered, No One in This Other World Stands a Chance Against Me!. Many power-scaling communities debate his level using concepts like The End, the Great Sage’s dream, and whether Yogiri transcends the setting entirely.


Let’s break down the arguments clearly so you can promote Yogiri and address common counter-arguments.




1.​


Some readers interpret the cosmology as:


  • The entire world is essentially a dream or construct perceived by the Great Sage.
  • Everything inside the setting is a symbolic projection rather than absolute reality.
  • Because of this, beings inside the dream normally cannot affect the dreamer.

If Yogiri can kill entities that transcend the world itself, that implies:


  • His ability is not limited by the internal rules of the dream.
  • His “death” authority operates on the existence of things themselves, not just their physical forms.

This is one of the arguments used to scale him beyond the internal cosmology.




2. “​


In the lore, Yogiri’s real identity is The End.


Key interpretation used by supporters:


  • “The End” is not merely a powerful being.
  • It is the conceptual termination of all things.
  • Everything eventually reaches it.

From this perspective:


  • Yogiri is not a fighter with an ability.
  • Yogiri is the embodiment of the final state of existence.

That is why his power works automatically and cannot be resisted.




3.​


The pro-Yogiri argument usually goes like this:


  1. Yogiri represents the inevitable end of existence.
  2. Concepts like space, time, worlds, and dimensions are things that eventually end.
  3. Therefore the End must exist beyond them, because it is what terminates them.

This is why some people argue he scales to 1-A / outerversal levels in fan debates.




4.​


Argument​


Response supporters use:


  • His ability kills conceptual beings and higher entities.
  • The mechanism is not a physical attack, but a declaration of death itself.



Argument​


Supporter response:


  • Yogiri’s power does not attack dimensions.
  • It simply ends the target’s existence regardless of structure.



Argument​


Supporter response:


  • While the series has comedic elements, the cosmology repeatedly treats Yogiri as an absolute existential endpoint.



5.​


The strongest pro-Yogiri argument is:


  • Everything that exists, lives, or continues can end.
  • Yogiri is that ending.

So the logic becomes:






✅ However, it’s important to note something:


In serious power-scaling discussions, many people disagree about whether this makes Yogiri truly outerversal or just absolute within his narrative framework.


That debate is why Yogiri is one of the most controversial characters in scaling communities.




✅ If you want, I can also show you:


  • The 5 strongest arguments Yogiri debaters use
  • The 5 biggest anti-Yogiri arguments
  • Whether Yogiri could beat characters like
    • Featherine Augustus Aurora
    • Azathoth
    • The One Above All

Those comparisons are where the debates get really interesting.
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Literal Chatgpt argument bro 🥀
 
Da3ggman said:
Literal Chatgpt argument bro 🥀
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“Literal ChatGPT argument bro 🥀” is a phrase people use in online debates (especially in anime or powerscaling discussions).

It basically means:

👉 “Your argument sounds like it was generated by ChatGPT.”

But most of the time it’s not meant literally. It’s usually used to dismiss or mock your argument rather than actually respond to it.

What they’re trying to imply​

When someone says this, they usually mean one of these things:

  1. Your argument is too long or structured, like an AI explanation.
  2. They think you didn’t come up with it yourself.
  3. They think it sounds generic or artificial.
  4. They don’t want to actually respond to the argument.

In debates​

In discussions about fictional characters like Takato Yogiri or Sung Jin-Woo, saying “ChatGPT argument” doesn’t actually refute anything.

It’s basically a dismissive comment, not a counter-argument.

How people usually respond​

Some common replies in debates are:

Direct response

“Calling it a ChatGPT argument doesn’t refute the point. Address the argument.”
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More blunt

“If you can’t debunk it, just say that.”
Click to expand...
Debate-style

“Whether the argument is long or not doesn’t matter. Refute the premise.”
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✅ Summary:
“ChatGPT argument” is usually just a way to dodge the debate instead of engaging with the argument itself.
 
Hecky2222 said:
The topic will be about promoting Yogiri and debunking haters arguments one by one



We have evidence proving that the entire world is just a dream seen by the Great Sage, and that his existence surpasses the world qualitatively. What we see in the work is only a symbolic representation that he creates within his dream.




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⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡏⠀⢻⡇⢸⣿⣷⣆⣸⣿⣷⣶⣶⣿⠀⠼⣻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⠀⢸⡇⣸⣿⠟⣀⣠⣈⣿⣻⣿⡿⠀⢰⣭⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠶⠾⠁⣿⣥⣅⣉⣛⣛⠛⣩⠗⢁⣀⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
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⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠏⠀⣦⣍⣀⣈⣉⣡⣊⡅⠈⢴⣶⣭⣛⣿⣻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
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Now, regarding the End:

The End (1A): is the true form of Takato Yogiri, which surpasses everything so that there is nothing beyond it, because it is the End. It is the only one that will remain in the end because it is the End, and not even the concept of dimensions or any possible world can reach it.

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Disagree:
Neutral:
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